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Will having 2 FTO's for CPL/IR affect my chances?

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Old 15th Feb 2011, 13:03
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Will having 2 FTO's for CPL/IR affect my chances?

I have the oppertunity to save overall £3,000 on an SE CPL (knowing the right people!) which sounds very fortunate however looking at an employer FO requirement for FLYBE, state only 1 FTO for CPL/IR for applicatants...... (However I am well aware some modular Joey like me won't really stand a chance with them anyway even if I did go to one FTO?!) Does anyone have any thoughts / advice on this, with Corporate employment very much in mind too? Many thanks in advance.

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Flybe don't discriminate those who have gone the modular route. In periods of high recruitment they take on quite a lot of mods. fFybe ask that you stick to ideally 1 FTO for groundschool and 1 or 2 for the flying side. Flybe list those modular schools that they work with (the know the product they are getting in terms of an ab-initio pilot) on the recruitment part of the website.
If you have FTOs all over the shop to save bucks, it is very difficult to get an accurate training record, and thus see how you did during training. Any airline wants its new recruits to pass the TR first time! Therefore having an easy to access training record is a big plus!

At the end of the day....you pays your money.....you takes your choice.

Best of luck.

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Stick to as few FTO's as you can, it makes the audit trails so much easier, for an employer, as well as the CAA. Certain airlines do still prefer the 'single' FTO thing, others dont really care. As for the Corporate job market, very difficult to get into without some decent hours in the logbook. Rich private owners want people with experience, not a spotty faced 18 year old with an ink wet licence who hasnt got a clue what theyre doing! Its also who you know and not what you know in Biz/Corp.
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I used a total of 5 different FTOs for all my training over the years (including PPL etc. and 6 if you count the MCC) and many more if you count recreational hour building and general PPL flying. On both sides of the Atlantic.

When I went for interview, nobody cared where I'd done any of my flying. All they seemed interested in about was if I was current and if I'd passed everything first time. That was their way of assessing training risk I suppose rather than getting access to training records that a lot of people either wouldn't have or wouldn't want the company to have access to.

I know Flybe have this thing but there is the possibility that once the market picks up again, they will relax this requirement.

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I have to agree with Wilton on this one.

The airline I work for were only interested in the little blue books CAA REF number when I joined. Things like first time passes in ATPL exams and professional pilot skill tests can be easily proved if you keep all your CAA flight test and ATPL result documentation if needed.

As a majority view point, you will probably find the airline you join wont give a toss where you did your training, as long as you have the valid licences and ratings that is all that matters.
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Old 16th Feb 2011, 09:56
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Wilton, depends how desperate Flybe gets. If it gets anything like as bad as 2007 to find pilots, then i'm sure you are right.

CAT3C. when you 'joined' was it on a Pay 2 Fly scheme TR or a bonding? just curious.
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BBB,

Sorry I have only just seen your post.

When I joined my airline, I dont think pay to fly existed. The company took around 50 pilots, some from other airlines, some instructors and some guys came straight out of flight school with minimum experience.

The type rating was provided by the company along with a bond, and a handful of people already had a type rating who were not bonded.
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