PTC PR gone too far?
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PTC PR gone too far?
How far will the PTC PR machine go?
This made me cringe when i saw it on tv.
That guidance counsellor is possibly the worst on the planet if he is advising people to train at the moment. He fails to mention that all the new aircraft will be going to Asia, fails to mention any kind of employment stats from the school, fails to mention how many of the schools graduates are unemployed and fails to mention how many experienced pilots are unemployed.
This is muck, do TV3 do any research at all before they air this?
And PTC are sinking too new lows.
See for yourselves:
TV3 - Video - Ireland AM, X Factor hair
This made me cringe when i saw it on tv.
That guidance counsellor is possibly the worst on the planet if he is advising people to train at the moment. He fails to mention that all the new aircraft will be going to Asia, fails to mention any kind of employment stats from the school, fails to mention how many of the schools graduates are unemployed and fails to mention how many experienced pilots are unemployed.
This is muck, do TV3 do any research at all before they air this?
And PTC are sinking too new lows.
See for yourselves:
TV3 - Video - Ireland AM, X Factor hair
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Complain to the Local equilivant of the ASA here in UK
Myself and another here did the same for a gash advert in Loop and we won. They were forced to recall the ad and never use it again.
Do the same in the country where you saw the ad, and get it removed. There is a thead on this same board about what we did in may entitled Ad in Loop may edidtion or something like that.
It was surprisingly easy to complain, and they could not back anything up.
UAV
Myself and another here did the same for a gash advert in Loop and we won. They were forced to recall the ad and never use it again.
Do the same in the country where you saw the ad, and get it removed. There is a thead on this same board about what we did in may entitled Ad in Loop may edidtion or something like that.
It was surprisingly easy to complain, and they could not back anything up.
UAV
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Shame on that guidance councillor, I would imagine he is just some second rate school guidance councillor who knows nothing about aviation and didnt bother to take the time to do any research about the real job conditions and the success rate of PTC students in finding a job. Just spouting off whatever bull!!!! he was fed by PTC....really should take more time to study the facts when he is prepared to go on national tv to encourage people to spend upwards of 80 grand in a second rate flying school.
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10 years a long haul captain? I think they're bonded for 7 so likely he'll still be at FlyBe.
10 years a long haul captain? I think they're bonded for 7 so likely he'll still be at FlyBe.
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'there is a cost factor involved...but...when you see somebody like chris come out the end...'
...who's earning 25 grand when he starts rising to the heady heights of, what, just shy of 40 grand in Flybe, while paying back a good few hundred quid of loan per month?
Cretin. This is a very dangerous piece of television.
...who's earning 25 grand when he starts rising to the heady heights of, what, just shy of 40 grand in Flybe, while paying back a good few hundred quid of loan per month?
Cretin. This is a very dangerous piece of television.
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Yes and the people who reported them are on this thread.
And its quite telling that even though they have been ruled to have breached 3.1 (Substantiation) and 7.1 (Truthfulness) before they still continue to spout the same !!!!e.
And the ruling only covers them in the UK for that particular advert.
And its quite telling that even though they have been ruled to have breached 3.1 (Substantiation) and 7.1 (Truthfulness) before they still continue to spout the same !!!!e.
And the ruling only covers them in the UK for that particular advert.
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You may not have a leg to stand on.
Is the guidance councillor employed by PTC? If not, PTC will be able to say that they are not responsible for what he said and it was a television interview, not an advert for PTC.
Similarly with the silly student. PTC can say that he was spouting off on his own.
Unless PTC actually paid for this interview to go out it is not "advertising" - it is just the personal opinions of two delusional people.
Is the guidance councillor employed by PTC? If not, PTC will be able to say that they are not responsible for what he said and it was a television interview, not an advert for PTC.
Similarly with the silly student. PTC can say that he was spouting off on his own.
Unless PTC actually paid for this interview to go out it is not "advertising" - it is just the personal opinions of two delusional people.
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Will someone in Ireland please complain to the ASA as Madjock and myself did here in the UK!!
It is all done via email, you dont have to go and see anyone, or be interviewed. All very easy and simple to do.
No point complaining about it and not complaining to the right people, otherwise they will continue to sell sh*ite to dulluded youngsters.
Again please can someone in Ireland complain to ASA.
It is all done via email, you dont have to go and see anyone, or be interviewed. All very easy and simple to do.
No point complaining about it and not complaining to the right people, otherwise they will continue to sell sh*ite to dulluded youngsters.
Again please can someone in Ireland complain to ASA.
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From: Hoylake
Its fair enough having a pop at PTC, but the young lad dripping in gold has been sold a dream and bought into it, bit unfair having a go at him on here. Experience and exposure to the real aviaition world will open his eyes soon enough....and in 5 years time he will look back at his 15 mins and squirm, but wil also have 5 years of flying behind him.
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Just a career changer here looking at flight training options in US and Europe.. stumbled on to this post/ thread...Just a couple of things..half a million pilots needed according to Boeing over next twenty years ?? Is this projection actually one Boeing made recently?.
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LOL bless. Not the young guys fault really, but just one question did he say all this in his FLYBE interview and do they know someone they are part sponsoring is intending to leave them, join a long haul operation and be in it long enough to become a Capt. and get involved in their training department?? All within ten years???
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Thats an interesting point Todders, hope he has his place assured in writing at flybe already. Nigel there has according to nearly every flight school on the plant been an imminent pilot shortage since at least 1970.