Cockpit4u in Berlin
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Cockpit4u in Berlin
Hi Everybody,
just seeing if anyone has trained at Cockpit4u in Berlin?? I am thinking of starting my A320 TR shortly there. I live in Berlin as well, that is for sure one of the main reasons that I check out them first. I already visit them, and my feeling there was more than good, but unfortunately I donīt know somebody that do the training with them.
All experiences would be much appreciated!
Please notice! I donīt need any posts that I never should do a self-sponsored TR without a job, Iīm well informed about the different opinions and respect that, but I had decided to do these advanced training course to go on.
Thanks in advance
just seeing if anyone has trained at Cockpit4u in Berlin?? I am thinking of starting my A320 TR shortly there. I live in Berlin as well, that is for sure one of the main reasons that I check out them first. I already visit them, and my feeling there was more than good, but unfortunately I donīt know somebody that do the training with them.
All experiences would be much appreciated!
Please notice! I donīt need any posts that I never should do a self-sponsored TR without a job, Iīm well informed about the different opinions and respect that, but I had decided to do these advanced training course to go on.
Thanks in advance
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From: Above & Beyond
Avoid them like the plague there training is poor!! I have seen it with my own eyes and spoke to alot of people and TRI/TRE's who have the same opinion.
I recommend Jet flight training in the UK, their training is good and the instructors are well respected.
I recommend Jet flight training in the UK, their training is good and the instructors are well respected.
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From: Berlin
no rubbish
is that usual here that my post need more than a whole day before it appear in the thread??? 
Only in case that this one is faster.
Please post only helpful and detailed infomation about your experience with them,
no rubbish like that: avoid them like the plague!!!!
I want to thank those guys, that had sent me already serious private messages.
Regards
Only in case that this one is faster.
Please post only helpful and detailed infomation about your experience with them,
no rubbish like that: avoid them like the plague!!!!
I want to thank those guys, that had sent me already serious private messages.
Regards
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From: Above & Beyond
My experience with these pilots:
I have flown with a few guys who couldnt fly or even manage the aircraft and passed an LPC 3 weeks before.
One guys tech knowledge was so poor for example he suggested speeding up above 250 kts at FL70 to get kinetic heating on the pitot probes..just for your interest it was a left elev pitot that failed and the QRH suggests avoiding icing conditions.
Two other people I have spoke to didn't even do a raw data ILS or a non-precision approach in the LST and that is a requirement for the issue of a TR.
From what I have been told from a certain line training provider is that they have found a trend with pilots who have passed a TR with around 40 odd hours total time in the sim and/or come from cockpit4u, for this reason Royal Air Maroc who did a line training scheme have boosted there requirements to 40 hours pilot flying (80 hours total) to become eligible for line training.
I have flown with a few guys who couldnt fly or even manage the aircraft and passed an LPC 3 weeks before.
One guys tech knowledge was so poor for example he suggested speeding up above 250 kts at FL70 to get kinetic heating on the pitot probes..just for your interest it was a left elev pitot that failed and the QRH suggests avoiding icing conditions.
Two other people I have spoke to didn't even do a raw data ILS or a non-precision approach in the LST and that is a requirement for the issue of a TR.
From what I have been told from a certain line training provider is that they have found a trend with pilots who have passed a TR with around 40 odd hours total time in the sim and/or come from cockpit4u, for this reason Royal Air Maroc who did a line training scheme have boosted there requirements to 40 hours pilot flying (80 hours total) to become eligible for line training.
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From: Berlin
the helpless newbie starting this thread and this helpful geezer Altos always post from the same connection.
so if you want audience with knowledge, he is one part of it...
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From: in the air
that`s what they sent me:
Dear Pilot!
I hope youre doing well! The summer season is around the corner and like every year we are able to offer a special Type Rating Training package:
For all type rating courses A320 and B737 starting between July 1st and August 31rd, 2010 you will get the apartment for your training period for free (you will save around 900 EUR).
If you are interested in one of our courses, please do not hesitate to contact us.
With our best greetings from Berlin-SXF!
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From: India
So what about the B737 NG TR that they provide...is it worth of getting TR done from them in respect of quality of training ( Both Ground and FBS/FFS ) or its better to get TR of NG from US?....looking forward for helpful guidance.
Thanks
Thanks
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From: europe
again and again and again, no one is going to give you a job because you have a t/rating. it doesn't matter what you rating is or where you did it, or how you did it, or how much you pay for it... NOBODY CARES about pilot with T/ratings!.
citation, lear, embraer, airbus, boeing... employers don't care anymore
they receive hundred of CVs everyday through p. office, email, and phone calls.
if you call them, they will tell you to stop to call. if you send your CV you will get a thank you, keep CV on file for 6 months, bye.
if you present your self: give me your CV, Bye.
Please would you stop to ask again and again and again the same questions?
wait for 2012-2013 to see if this market improve or not.
citation, lear, embraer, airbus, boeing... employers don't care anymore
they receive hundred of CVs everyday through p. office, email, and phone calls.
if you call them, they will tell you to stop to call. if you send your CV you will get a thank you, keep CV on file for 6 months, bye.
if you present your self: give me your CV, Bye.
Please would you stop to ask again and again and again the same questions?
wait for 2012-2013 to see if this market improve or not.
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From: India
@ A320rider
Sir what i asked was the quality of training being imparted by Cockpit4u....I totally agree with your views about having a TR but without a job....
So anybody who did his TR from cockpit4u want to share some experience of there training?
Sir what i asked was the quality of training being imparted by Cockpit4u....I totally agree with your views about having a TR but without a job....
So anybody who did his TR from cockpit4u want to share some experience of there training?
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From: Poland
I did some supervision flights with 4 cadets from cockpit4 u. Good level of training, well prepared without any problems. I'm not a friend of these kind of opinion sharing.. The best thing is: ask other graduates from the training institute to get their personal point of view. A lot of people use pprune to marketing their own services....
Good luck and safe landings!
Good luck and safe landings!
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From: Dark Side of The Moon
We have had a number of cockpit4u A320 graduates (both DEC and F/Os) who failed the line training due to lack of technical knowledge/training... sometimes quite dramatic stories, with guys spending their last money on the A320 type rating, coming to do the line training and failing even F/O line check, left in dire straits... that said, any pilot training is 90% of what you make of it yourself.
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From: Dublin
Re: Experience of Cockpit4U
Anybody within our ranks who has been through the system with C4U in the last intervening 8 months that would like to share their personal retrospective experience? (specifically the A320 TR)
Cheers and thanks for sharing!
Cheers and thanks for sharing!
