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Hello all.
Let me introduce myself, I am Nik a postgrad student of Occupational or as in US Organisational psychology. I am starting a thesis on Multi Crew Pilot Licence (MPL). The aim of the study is to measure the effect of this licence on crew dynamics. I want to ask three questions:
1. Your views on MPL.
2. What competencies, skills, do you most value in freshly qualified co pilot.
3. if you are a captain or a first officer would you mind filling out a questionnaire online (20 min-30min of your time) to partake in this study in about 2 month time.
Thank you in advance
I also want to assure you that if my study does show that there is a problem with the MPL having an effect on crew dynamics I will do all that I can to make it known to the wider public.
Let me introduce myself, I am Nik a postgrad student of Occupational or as in US Organisational psychology. I am starting a thesis on Multi Crew Pilot Licence (MPL). The aim of the study is to measure the effect of this licence on crew dynamics. I want to ask three questions:
1. Your views on MPL.
2. What competencies, skills, do you most value in freshly qualified co pilot.
3. if you are a captain or a first officer would you mind filling out a questionnaire online (20 min-30min of your time) to partake in this study in about 2 month time.
Thank you in advance
I also want to assure you that if my study does show that there is a problem with the MPL having an effect on crew dynamics I will do all that I can to make it known to the wider public.
Perceived advantages of the MPL:
Better CRM, since pilots have never done the "single pilot thing", they should in theory be much better team players - which a lot of research says is the core issue in handling big aeroplane emergencies.
Cheaper (for the airline): actually this is a fallacy since the airline will probably end up paying for the MPL, whilst few pay for pilot initial training at the moment. On the other hand, it'll probably be cheaper than a fATPL at present.
Perceived disadvantages of the MPL:
FOs who are incapable of dealing with problems on their own, having not had any real experience of true captaincy.
Poor hand flying skills - just occasionally an aeroplane needs to be manually got out of trouble, and MPL students will be developing those skills to a much lower level.
Career restriction - an MPL qualified pilot, even with Captaincy, is likely to be no use at-all as an FI, air-taxi pilot - anything requiring self-reliance or a high degree of handling skills.
Personally, I think it's a daft idea, and as it becomes common, we'll start to see new flying-skill-deficiency related accidents, which didn't exist in recent years where virtually nobody got a job in the right hand seat of a big jet with less than 1000 hours, much of which may well have been flying taxi, commuter, or instruction.
The only person I've yet met who was fully for it, was a recruiter for British Airways who didn't so far as I could tell have any flying qualifications himself.
Nik - by all means PM me for further discussions; I have close involvement with flight safety research at one of the London Universities, and may be able to collaborate here or there.
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Better CRM, since pilots have never done the "single pilot thing", they should in theory be much better team players - which a lot of research says is the core issue in handling big aeroplane emergencies.
Cheaper (for the airline): actually this is a fallacy since the airline will probably end up paying for the MPL, whilst few pay for pilot initial training at the moment. On the other hand, it'll probably be cheaper than a fATPL at present.
Perceived disadvantages of the MPL:
FOs who are incapable of dealing with problems on their own, having not had any real experience of true captaincy.
Poor hand flying skills - just occasionally an aeroplane needs to be manually got out of trouble, and MPL students will be developing those skills to a much lower level.
Career restriction - an MPL qualified pilot, even with Captaincy, is likely to be no use at-all as an FI, air-taxi pilot - anything requiring self-reliance or a high degree of handling skills.
Personally, I think it's a daft idea, and as it becomes common, we'll start to see new flying-skill-deficiency related accidents, which didn't exist in recent years where virtually nobody got a job in the right hand seat of a big jet with less than 1000 hours, much of which may well have been flying taxi, commuter, or instruction.
The only person I've yet met who was fully for it, was a recruiter for British Airways who didn't so far as I could tell have any flying qualifications himself.
Nik - by all means PM me for further discussions; I have close involvement with flight safety research at one of the London Universities, and may be able to collaborate here or there.
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Career restriction - an MPL qualified pilot, even with Captaincy, is likely to be no use at-all as an FI, air-taxi pilot - anything requiring self-reliance or a high degree of handling skills.
Personally, I think it's a daft idea, and as it becomes common, we'll start to see new flying-skill-deficiency related accidents, which didn't exist in recent years where virtually nobody got a job in the right hand seat of a big jet with less than 1000 hours, much of which may well have been flying taxi, commuter, or instruction.
Personally, I think it's a daft idea, and as it becomes common, we'll start to see new flying-skill-deficiency related accidents, which didn't exist in recent years where virtually nobody got a job in the right hand seat of a big jet with less than 1000 hours, much of which may well have been flying taxi, commuter, or instruction.
The MPL syllabuses as they currently stand under the UK CAA (at Oxford and Jerez) contain around 90 hours real flying, the rest being made up in a simulator. Incidently, most of the flying that has been removed is student solo time, so not time spent under dual instruction learning handling skills. An integrated fATPL graduate will leave with 150 hours; will 60 extra hours doing mostly solo VFR navigation in an Archer really make any difference to the skill set of a line-trained MPL graduate? I don't know the answer to that, I suspect it won't, but the proof will be when the first UK MPL graduates start to trickle onto the line.
It seems to me like only a slight adjustment to how the system already works...
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First I would like to thank everyone who participated in this discussion so far and those who have contacted me. Second, OK after getting ethical approval, background reading and other fun stuff, I am ready to take to the next stage, which is interview. I am looking to interview Captains, First officers (active or in training) that have any expeirience with MPL. I would really appreciate any thoughts on the matter in this discusion from any field or profession. It will help me to get a better picture both objectivly and subjectivly.
Thank you in advance .
Nikita
Thank you in advance .
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Nikita,
There are probably less than two dozen MPL trained pilots on the line so far worldwide, so I think your research might be a bit early if you want people with experience of either being an MPL or flying with one as their FO to participate in your study.
You'll get a lot of opinions on here based on personal preferences and speculation, but you won't necessarily get quality research about whether MPLs actually integrate well or not for a few more years. If you want to write about how non-experiential perceptions of this new way of training and preconceived prejudices for or against it may potentially impact crew dynamics, then you have a viable research project and you'll have plenty of volunteers.
There are probably less than two dozen MPL trained pilots on the line so far worldwide, so I think your research might be a bit early if you want people with experience of either being an MPL or flying with one as their FO to participate in your study.
You'll get a lot of opinions on here based on personal preferences and speculation, but you won't necessarily get quality research about whether MPLs actually integrate well or not for a few more years. If you want to write about how non-experiential perceptions of this new way of training and preconceived prejudices for or against it may potentially impact crew dynamics, then you have a viable research project and you'll have plenty of volunteers.
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Hello Aidos and Put1992,
Thank you for your inputs.
Adios, my plan is to gauge the feeling within the industry itself, of course it would be nice to have MPL-related students (but I have some very promising leads for that as well) however, non MPL first officers and captains with no contact with MPL is my main sample. I know my research is several years early, however considering that IATA is supposing that most Ab Inito pilots by 2015 will be trained through MPL, makes it a question of particular salience.
Thank you for your inputs.
Adios, my plan is to gauge the feeling within the industry itself, of course it would be nice to have MPL-related students (but I have some very promising leads for that as well) however, non MPL first officers and captains with no contact with MPL is my main sample. I know my research is several years early, however considering that IATA is supposing that most Ab Inito pilots by 2015 will be trained through MPL, makes it a question of particular salience.
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An Multi Crew Pilot License study (Updated)
Dear PPrune readers,
First let me thank everyone here for helping me be better informed at design stages of my study. Now I can post a comprehensive description of my study. Also I am interviewing now so if anyone is interested to participate they are more than welcome to contact me. Well here is the more updated version of what my study aims to do.
Let me introduce myself: my name is Nikita Mikhailov and I am a postgraduate student of Occupational Psychology or as it is known in US Industrial Psychology.
I am doing my study on the Multi Crew Pilot License. My study aims to research possible effects of MPL on Crew Resource Management (CRM), particularly Trans-Cockpit Authority Gradient. There is a lot of debate on this license; however, we currently have already MPL graduates flying as first officers in commercial airlines; therefore the question of the possible effect of the perception of MPL could have on CRM in my personal opinion as a passenger is very important.
So, dear readers, I am looking for airline captains to interview in particular from Swiss, Lufthansa and other airlines which have MPL graduate, so if anyone is one or has contact details of one, if you could pass the information about this study on to them that be very much appreciated. The captains of airlines that are using MPL only form a part of my sample, I would still like to interview any captains with views on MPL. I would also like to hear everybody's opinions on the MPL and the reasoning behind it; after all' two heads are better than one. So, if you are interested in this study either to participate or just to give me your professional opinion, I would be more than happy to hear from you on this forum. If you want me to provide you with more information on the nature of the study, post it on this forum or just drop me a line in private.
Also there is a lot of threads that mention MPL, I know I have been through them with a hair comb, what I want to create of this thread is a more centralised one where people can discuss the MPL. No information that is mentioned here on this thread will be directly used in the study.
Sincerely yours
Nikita Mikhailov
First let me thank everyone here for helping me be better informed at design stages of my study. Now I can post a comprehensive description of my study. Also I am interviewing now so if anyone is interested to participate they are more than welcome to contact me. Well here is the more updated version of what my study aims to do.
Let me introduce myself: my name is Nikita Mikhailov and I am a postgraduate student of Occupational Psychology or as it is known in US Industrial Psychology.
I am doing my study on the Multi Crew Pilot License. My study aims to research possible effects of MPL on Crew Resource Management (CRM), particularly Trans-Cockpit Authority Gradient. There is a lot of debate on this license; however, we currently have already MPL graduates flying as first officers in commercial airlines; therefore the question of the possible effect of the perception of MPL could have on CRM in my personal opinion as a passenger is very important.
So, dear readers, I am looking for airline captains to interview in particular from Swiss, Lufthansa and other airlines which have MPL graduate, so if anyone is one or has contact details of one, if you could pass the information about this study on to them that be very much appreciated. The captains of airlines that are using MPL only form a part of my sample, I would still like to interview any captains with views on MPL. I would also like to hear everybody's opinions on the MPL and the reasoning behind it; after all' two heads are better than one. So, if you are interested in this study either to participate or just to give me your professional opinion, I would be more than happy to hear from you on this forum. If you want me to provide you with more information on the nature of the study, post it on this forum or just drop me a line in private.
Also there is a lot of threads that mention MPL, I know I have been through them with a hair comb, what I want to create of this thread is a more centralised one where people can discuss the MPL. No information that is mentioned here on this thread will be directly used in the study.
Sincerely yours
Nikita Mikhailov
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Thank you Aerocadet.
I made myself informed on the subject through several sources, nice people at air academies is one. However, right now I am looking for other points of view as well to try to make the study as objective as possible.
I made myself informed on the subject through several sources, nice people at air academies is one. However, right now I am looking for other points of view as well to try to make the study as objective as possible.
