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Old 27th Oct 2009, 00:00
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Hi, i'm about to take the jaa exams in Norway, and was just wondering if anybody knows if it's possible to take the flight section of the course in a different country, where it might be cheaper?
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You have to do the flight training in the same country as which you sit the exams.

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No you don't, You can fly build up time toward your private or commercial in another country. it depends on whether you go to a school which it supports it,
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Also you can take the flight test and dual instruction with some U.S schools whilst having sat your JAA exams elsewhere I have just been told
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The way the CAA explained it to me was that if I did my IR before my CPL, I would have to do it in the country where I wrote my ATPL exams. However if I had a CPL issued first, then I could do my IR in any JAR member state.

The route I took was FAA CPL/IR. Then did my JAR writtens in the UK. CPL skills test in the UK and IR conversion in Spain. No problems from the CAA in issuing my license and it worked out very cost effective.
Advice is to speak to a few schools and/or the CAA first. They deal with this stuff on a daily basis and will be able to tell you if things have changed at all.
If you go to the CAA trying to justify what you've done by refering to some tit called drogue chute on pprune, I'm sure your argument won't hold much water
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Is that right? You did your IR convert in spain?
I was under the impression that aside everything else...your IR HAD to be completed in the U.K? (otherwise you may as well, instead of converting just re-do the wholke thing in the UK, as it was useless)
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Old 27th Oct 2009, 08:29
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Yeah, I did the IR conversion at Aerodynamics Malaga.... As long as you have done the CPL skills test it doesn't matter where you do the IR...
I had to take copies of the schools approvals, sim approvals, examiners license etc. with and hand it in with my application, but the school knew exactly what I needed and gave it to me in a folder that I then passed on to the CAA. They were happy with all that.
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Nice - and did that end up saving you Money? Im just about to start my IR in Canada, so I guess its good to know all this for years down the line if i ever consider jumping back to the mother land.
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No you don't, You can fly build up time toward your private or commercial in another country.
Yes, you do. I said flight trainnig, not hour building. The US schools are the ones who are JAA authorized abd I believe they have special permissions. Drogue chute is correct.

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I don't normally disagree with anything you post Whirlygig, but I am afraid that you are wrong this time.

You can do the flight training in one country and the flying in another, PROVIDING the CAAs of both countries agree. We had a student who did his ground school in Switzerland and his flying with us, here in the UK. He got his licence/rating issued by the UK CAA.

He had to get approval in writing first from the CAAs of both countries and had to provide a copy of the ground school's approval certificate to the UK CAA as well as a proof of his exam pass marks.

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Old 27th Oct 2009, 17:25
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Drogue didn't disagree with me? you did? I didn't just say hour building, I said hour building AND flight training.you can do flight training in another country seperate to where you did the theory section. YOU are wrong not me sir

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Old 27th Oct 2009, 17:49
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direct from Gatwick:
If the license is to be issued in a different country than the one you sit the exams a "courtesy letter" has to be issued by that authority. Kind of is JAA but is not...everybody wants to be friends.
Be aware: If I remember correctly the initial medical and the initial IR has to be done in a JAR country.
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Old 27th Oct 2009, 19:40
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Thank you Linda for pointing that out. However, there should be the caveat that the permissions are not always granted - this I do know from a friend who sat the exams in Spain but was not given the permission to train in Greece. Mind you, he did want a UK JAA licence ultimately.

JohnGV, I am not a Sir.

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OK, Whirly, sorry for un-intentionally dis-respecting you. It was never intended.
In North America, out of respect, this is how they address unfamiliar people.

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Apology accepted JohnGV but even in North America they don't tend to address women as "Sir".

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Ha ha,
I had no idea, and that is my presumptuous fault. I did look for your gender...I couldn't find it.
I'm sorry

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