Qualifying XC for CPL
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Qualifying XC for CPL
Hi. What evidence is required for the 300nm XC required for CPL issue? Is it ok just to get the receipts for landing fees and is there any form that needs to be filled in? Also, I have a contract with my home airfield so no receipt there - what shall I request/prepare as evidence? Thanks.
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Care re IrishJetDriver's advice - this is normally NOT the case. To quote LASORS:
The cross-country flight should be regarded as a single
planned exercise including landings at two intermediate
aerodromes and completed during the course of a single
day. Flights completed over the course of more than one
day will not normally be acceptable towards licence issue.
Should an applicant claim that there were mitigating
circumstances that prevented the flight from being
completed as originally planned, the applicant must send
in a written submission to PLD explaining what happened
together with any relevant supporting documentation/
information for consideration.
HW
The cross-country flight should be regarded as a single
planned exercise including landings at two intermediate
aerodromes and completed during the course of a single
day. Flights completed over the course of more than one
day will not normally be acceptable towards licence issue.
Should an applicant claim that there were mitigating
circumstances that prevented the flight from being
completed as originally planned, the applicant must send
in a written submission to PLD explaining what happened
together with any relevant supporting documentation/
information for consideration.
HW
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Yes it has to be done in one day, but you don't have to land back at your departure point. as long as the leg is over 300NM and you fufill the other criteria. I also did my qualifing leg as part of a longer route over a few days. I departed from one airport, had two intermediate landings and completed the flight by landing and overnighting at a fourth.
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Just to confirm here that I had a student (I'm an FI) who had to abort his CPL xctry due poor wx, landing back at his original departure point the following morning. To all intent and purposes, he flew 300nm and landed at two different airfields but NOT in a single one-day trip. The CAA did NOT allow it and he had to complete a further qualifying trip a few days later.
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I agree, all the criteria must be fulfilled within one day, the point I was making was that you don't have to return to your original point of departure on the same day.
i.e if you flew from London to the south of france in one day with two intermediate stops, it would still count. which I believe is the point IrishJetdriver was making. I also did mine in a similar fashion.
i.e if you flew from London to the south of france in one day with two intermediate stops, it would still count. which I believe is the point IrishJetdriver was making. I also did mine in a similar fashion.
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I recently did my 300 NM cross country flight here in Spain. The way I had to certify it was getting a stamp on a piece of paper from each airport where I took-off and landed for both a Departure and Arrival column and then stating the distance flown between the airports. You then fill in the date at the end of the sheet and sign it...so basically there's no way to know if you did fly it all in one day or not unless you check it with the logbook.
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I have taken this up with the UK CAA before now and they will accept an overnight trip, provided that the whole journey is completed within the same 24 hours period.
Your own personal Log Book entries are all that are required but it would not hurt to use the same 'form' that your PPL training provider issued for completion of the QXC, which is normally signed and stamped by the local ATSU, and submitting this with your log book when applying for the CPL.
The less opportunities you create for questions to be asked the better.
Your own personal Log Book entries are all that are required but it would not hurt to use the same 'form' that your PPL training provider issued for completion of the QXC, which is normally signed and stamped by the local ATSU, and submitting this with your log book when applying for the CPL.
The less opportunities you create for questions to be asked the better.
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2close,
Not sure how recently you checked this out with the CAA, but it's definately changed now - see my post #6 above.
I made the mistake of contacting the CAA a few weeks ago to query this point, unfortunately refering to the 2006 edition of LASORS which wasn't particularly clear. The very nice lady at the CAA respectfully refered me to the current LASORS edition which includes the wording above.
Hope this clarifies.
HW
Not sure how recently you checked this out with the CAA, but it's definately changed now - see my post #6 above.
I made the mistake of contacting the CAA a few weeks ago to query this point, unfortunately refering to the 2006 edition of LASORS which wasn't particularly clear. The very nice lady at the CAA respectfully refered me to the current LASORS edition which includes the wording above.
Hope this clarifies.
HW
