DE-Brief after a flight Test
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DE-Brief after a flight Test
Hi All,
Can anyone share their experience on how soon an examiner would give a de-brief after a flight skills test i.e. PPL, CPL or IR Skills test.
What I am trying to ascertain is what would be a reasonable time to give a de-brief after a skills test and would it be normal practice for an examiner to speak with your school flight instructors before finally giving you your result etc.
Regards
Laylow
Can anyone share their experience on how soon an examiner would give a de-brief after a flight skills test i.e. PPL, CPL or IR Skills test.
What I am trying to ascertain is what would be a reasonable time to give a de-brief after a skills test and would it be normal practice for an examiner to speak with your school flight instructors before finally giving you your result etc.
Regards
Laylow
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From: 31-43,000 feet ALL the friggin' time!
If it goes to the end, you should have passed.
The assessment should be brought to your attention after the logbook is completed, while it's fresh in everyone's mind.
They don't do this where you are?
The assessment should be brought to your attention after the logbook is completed, while it's fresh in everyone's mind.
They don't do this where you are?
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From: Southampton
Just after clearing the runway told of the IR pass.
For an LPC/Skills Test you're generally told as soon as you've completed all the sections. If you've failed I believe the a private debrief could be carried out but I've sat through a very uncomfortable debrief before now when my sim partner was getting a rough ride.
For an LPC/Skills Test you're generally told as soon as you've completed all the sections. If you've failed I believe the a private debrief could be carried out but I've sat through a very uncomfortable debrief before now when my sim partner was getting a rough ride.
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From: Canada
In Canada you find out as soon as you shut the engine down (assuming you're on the ground when that happens), De-brief happens as soon as you get inside.
Don't know about he UK, probably have to pay some money and wait a month.
Don't know about he UK, probably have to pay some money and wait a month.
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From: UK/ Oz
For christ's sake keygrip, the mans on here talking about his skill test debrief, and you weigh in and post some crap about how, in a normal conversation on an online form, someone had incorrectly used the word "clearing" in the context of an aviation runway.
Is this man talking on the radio......no.
Id love to have a conversation with you. keyman:
Me: hello Keygrip, hows it going?
kg: Say again Keygrip.
Me: I said hows it going?
kg. The correct terminology is:" keygrip, report status."
Me. get a life you gimp.
Is this man talking on the radio......no.
Id love to have a conversation with you. keyman:
Me: hello Keygrip, hows it going?
kg: Say again Keygrip.
Me: I said hows it going?
kg. The correct terminology is:" keygrip, report status."
Me. get a life you gimp.
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From: Enroute to sand.
so u talk like you are on the radio in general conversations do you?fair play to ya..that is dedication!!
yet another tread gone miles off topic!!you think moderators would be bit more professional !!
yet another tread gone miles off topic!!you think moderators would be bit more professional !!
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From: Polymer Records
I think Keygrip has made a reasonable point.
Its be proved time and again that standardised RT is the safest way to operate. "Oh, but you know what I meant" isn't acceptable. There have been numerous incidents caused by non-standard RT.
Its be proved time and again that standardised RT is the safest way to operate. "Oh, but you know what I meant" isn't acceptable. There have been numerous incidents caused by non-standard RT.
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From: Just a bit lower than the point where the falling angel meets the rising ape
ANYWAY!!!
My debrief was given me straight after my PPL test. It consisted of me asking him "any problems". His response? "you'll be alright".
My instructor says they often talk to each other about students who have passed but have a few things that need an eye keeping on, and this info can filter back to said student that way. Outcome of such a discussion regarding myself? "He'll be alright"
From middle-aged South Yorkshiremen, volumes.
So in answer to the OP, I suspect any debrief should be offered straight away, although it might be as brief as three words!
I'll vacate this thread now.
My instructor says they often talk to each other about students who have passed but have a few things that need an eye keeping on, and this info can filter back to said student that way. Outcome of such a discussion regarding myself? "He'll be alright"
From middle-aged South Yorkshiremen, volumes.
So in answer to the OP, I suspect any debrief should be offered straight away, although it might be as brief as three words!
I'll vacate this thread now.
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Reading between the lines....
He was checking something that had happened on the test.
Students will swear blind that they were taught to do certain exercises certain ways. Which may be not the way the examiner wants them done.
If he hasn't seen the product from a school/instructor before he will have been giving you the benift of the doudt that its the school balls up not yours.
After a couple of tests from an instructor they know if your fibbing and don't bother asking.
If it turns out you have been telling fibs it will turn into a fail instead of a debrief point.
An example of this is in the stalling exercises with, if you have to stick the nose at the deck or various points inbetween, hanging the air fannying about lifting wings with the rudder etc. Where the reality is its a unload until the aircraft unstall's while applying power. On the incipent stalls you have people teaching power out with no change in attitude to sticking the nose at the deck. If they find out that the school is teaching the wrong method the CAA gets informed if its a school wide thing or the CFI will have a word in the instructors ear and it gets sorted out.
He was checking something that had happened on the test.
Students will swear blind that they were taught to do certain exercises certain ways. Which may be not the way the examiner wants them done.
If he hasn't seen the product from a school/instructor before he will have been giving you the benift of the doudt that its the school balls up not yours.
After a couple of tests from an instructor they know if your fibbing and don't bother asking.
If it turns out you have been telling fibs it will turn into a fail instead of a debrief point.
An example of this is in the stalling exercises with, if you have to stick the nose at the deck or various points inbetween, hanging the air fannying about lifting wings with the rudder etc. Where the reality is its a unload until the aircraft unstall's while applying power. On the incipent stalls you have people teaching power out with no change in attitude to sticking the nose at the deck. If they find out that the school is teaching the wrong method the CAA gets informed if its a school wide thing or the CFI will have a word in the instructors ear and it gets sorted out.
