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Lets hope not! No of course they don't. 
The point I was making was that the RAF seem to think it is ok to train an 18 year old for a route to flying fast jets. The reason they think it is ok is because they have faith in their screening process and they have faith in their training.
Therefore, why should we question the legacy carriers and any other carrier that chooses to put a 250hr pilot straight into a RHS or their jet? They obviously have faith in their screening process and their training.
ICAO now think it is ok that budding pilots only need 170 hours for an MPL - with most in the Sim I may add- before they reach the RHS. Are they wrong as well? (Part of me thinks they are for entirely different reasons. Feel free to read my post history if you are bored).
Rather than enforcing an opinion because I think I am right, I am merely pointing out examples - things that are happening right now and have done so for the last 30 odd years - as to why it is perfectly safe and plausible for 250hr cadets to go straight into the cockpit of an airliner and not be ridiculed becasue of it.
Some may say I am biased as I am indeed the guy who payed for a TR back in 2000 and got a job in a 732 at 19 and a half. I may be biased, but at least I can call upon all the examples I have listed in my past posts including this one.
The point I was making was that the RAF seem to think it is ok to train an 18 year old for a route to flying fast jets. The reason they think it is ok is because they have faith in their screening process and they have faith in their training.
Therefore, why should we question the legacy carriers and any other carrier that chooses to put a 250hr pilot straight into a RHS or their jet? They obviously have faith in their screening process and their training.
ICAO now think it is ok that budding pilots only need 170 hours for an MPL - with most in the Sim I may add- before they reach the RHS. Are they wrong as well? (Part of me thinks they are for entirely different reasons. Feel free to read my post history if you are bored).
Rather than enforcing an opinion because I think I am right, I am merely pointing out examples - things that are happening right now and have done so for the last 30 odd years - as to why it is perfectly safe and plausible for 250hr cadets to go straight into the cockpit of an airliner and not be ridiculed becasue of it.
Some may say I am biased as I am indeed the guy who payed for a TR back in 2000 and got a job in a 732 at 19 and a half. I may be biased, but at least I can call upon all the examples I have listed in my past posts including this one.
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A couple of friends of mine are pilots in the RAF. They said that they were flying the Tornado at the age of 21/22, having gone straight through the flying training system gaining only about 300hrs flying time. So they obviously get trusted in, what is arguably, a more difficult/demanding job.
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
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Bla Bla Bla -> "No you don't but I bet your passengers would like you to be an experienced pilot whilst enjoying your flying career."
Hilarious!
I must say I agree. Im a flight and written exam away from my PPL. And I love everything about aviation! LOVE it! When I was a kid, I would beg to fly jumpseat and got the chance on tons of aircraft. My all time faveorite was the L-1011 TriStars.
At the flight school I notice so many people pointing at planes and asking what kind they are. Worst ever was a guy pointing at a Herc from Trenton and saying "What airline is that?" To which I replied... "What airline flys planes in camo gray?"
Even though this thread is aimed at people in my situation, I agree 100%. But you also have to understand, flying is expensive now. So that is why it is mostly rich kids who just want to say they are a pilot to their freinds. While alot of people who wish they could be pilots don't have the money. I work with several guys in this situation. They have checklists memorized for a Cessna 172, They know all the procedures and calls, but can't afford to go get a PPL. So they resort to Simulator flying.
Hilarious!
I must say I agree. Im a flight and written exam away from my PPL. And I love everything about aviation! LOVE it! When I was a kid, I would beg to fly jumpseat and got the chance on tons of aircraft. My all time faveorite was the L-1011 TriStars.
At the flight school I notice so many people pointing at planes and asking what kind they are. Worst ever was a guy pointing at a Herc from Trenton and saying "What airline is that?" To which I replied... "What airline flys planes in camo gray?"
Even though this thread is aimed at people in my situation, I agree 100%. But you also have to understand, flying is expensive now. So that is why it is mostly rich kids who just want to say they are a pilot to their freinds. While alot of people who wish they could be pilots don't have the money. I work with several guys in this situation. They have checklists memorized for a Cessna 172, They know all the procedures and calls, but can't afford to go get a PPL. So they resort to Simulator flying.
Once upon a time, fast jet instructor employed by my local air force was asked, as we had no advanced trainers in the inventory, whether the students will be able to cope with moving straight from turboprop trainer to FJ. His reply:"Of course they will! In fact I can take fellow with zero hours and train him in the fast jet from the day one. At the end, he'll be combat ready but time and funds spent training him would be enough to see ten other guys get qualified via traditional route." So it seems that Grob-Tucano-Hawk-Tornado route is chosen because (among the viable ones, of course) it is the fastest and the cheapest (not least because it gives RAF the opportunity to weed out ones less than likely to succeed at a relatively cheap stage).
Good MPL training might be far better thing than lousy integrated fATPL - this might be entirely dependent on school and supervising authority. Where they're dead wrong is when they believe that from zero to TR can be done in a year.
As long as their faith is not unfounded, I have no objections.
As long as TREs are doing their job, not. One can buy training but not rating.
Air and aeroplane are absolutely disinterested in pilot's total time, what did he do on his previous hundred flights or five years ago or what flightschool did he attend. They occasionally throw a puzzle at a pilot and give him finite time to solve it and they absolutely don't care how the pilot comes to the solution - from remembering the books, from remembering the tale of the wrinkled colleague who had to solve it decades ago or from his own experience. As long as the solution is correct, pilot lives to fly till the next challenge.
Ones unable to learn from anything but their own experience have to have good fortune in plentiful supply as they start their flying careers, lest they end prematurelly.
ICAO now think it is ok that budding pilots only need 170 hours for an MPL - with most in the Sim I may add- before they reach the RHS. Are they wrong as well?
Therefore, why should we question the legacy carriers and any other carrier that chooses to put a 250hr pilot straight into a RHS or their jet? They obviously have faith in their screening process and their training.
you and I both know you can buy your way into an Airbus seat.
Air and aeroplane are absolutely disinterested in pilot's total time, what did he do on his previous hundred flights or five years ago or what flightschool did he attend. They occasionally throw a puzzle at a pilot and give him finite time to solve it and they absolutely don't care how the pilot comes to the solution - from remembering the books, from remembering the tale of the wrinkled colleague who had to solve it decades ago or from his own experience. As long as the solution is correct, pilot lives to fly till the next challenge.
Ones unable to learn from anything but their own experience have to have good fortune in plentiful supply as they start their flying careers, lest they end prematurelly.
