Is the work really that hard to come by?
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Well maybe it depends on the modern definition of a flying job?
I was happy to get a first job flying C210's in Namibia as would any of my pals. A King Air? Forget it!
It appears that recently the B737 has become the norm as a nice little entry level jet? Lower your sights guys this is aviation reality!
Not good to see capable experienced guys struggling though.
I was happy to get a first job flying C210's in Namibia as would any of my pals. A King Air? Forget it!
It appears that recently the B737 has become the norm as a nice little entry level jet? Lower your sights guys this is aviation reality!
Not good to see capable experienced guys struggling though.
You are being very naive Fiveoh. WWW is dead right.
But if you want to ignore the advise of those who have gone before you and know so much more than you then that is your perogative.
You simply cannot compare aviation with any other industry. There is none like it.
The catch 22 of "you need experience to get a job but you cant get experience without a job" has always been the case. It is even more so now.
If you think you can get a CPL, a 737 type and Bob's your uncle you are gonna have a big surprise!
But if you want to ignore the advise of those who have gone before you and know so much more than you then that is your perogative.
You simply cannot compare aviation with any other industry. There is none like it.
The catch 22 of "you need experience to get a job but you cant get experience without a job" has always been the case. It is even more so now.
If you think you can get a CPL, a 737 type and Bob's your uncle you are gonna have a big surprise!
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fiveoh - there are still jobs around in Canada from entry-level (bush / instrucing) through to air-taxi, the regionals and the majors. Things are ticking over slowly, just not the boom-boom of recent years.
Most people on here are UK-centric and are experiencing a localised depression but things aren't so bad in your home country.
Recession yes but not a total depression.
As Stan Woolley points out, if you can accept starting on career on something other than a 737 then the work is out there.
Most people on here are UK-centric and are experiencing a localised depression but things aren't so bad in your home country.
Recession yes but not a total depression.
As Stan Woolley points out, if you can accept starting on career on something other than a 737 then the work is out there.
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fiveoh is clearly a salesman with no clue about the real life for new pilots and the amount of sh
they need to go through to get a job.
Live in your delusion lad.
I'd avise all the young people to study and have a second job. not any job but a good job.
Ratings renewal alone (after you spent loads of cash to qualify) would cost you 1000s of $ or £, so you need a good/highly paid job to pay for all that. Sorry guys, i could tell you it will pick up and you will fly etc etc. but i am not a bullter, prefer reality.
they need to go through to get a job.Live in your delusion lad.
I'd avise all the young people to study and have a second job. not any job but a good job.
Ratings renewal alone (after you spent loads of cash to qualify) would cost you 1000s of $ or £, so you need a good/highly paid job to pay for all that. Sorry guys, i could tell you it will pick up and you will fly etc etc. but i am not a bull
ter, prefer reality.
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I would say
IT doesn't seem to matter what year it was.
Some 2 years ago a good prognosis was forecast because of the "baby boom".
Today you have the recession.
During the days of the forecast boom, finding a job was easier at least at that time even I was getting replies from companies and in many cases required more hours and do keep in touch etc.
Recently I have managed a positive response and selection only by sending a CV. Received a phone call roughly 2 weeks later asking to go in for an interview.
At the same time I was asked by another party how many multi hours I had. Sadly I only had 50 which isn't enough as the limit is 100, however this gig would've been in Africa for a few weeks. (I'm not exactly that desperate yet)
The situation people have to comprehend. It could be that you'll get lucky with a CV fired off to 100 companies but it's far better if you manage a contact in a few companies and bide your time.
Again the one who manages to snag the job isn't always the one with most hours, it's the one who's most likeable and is there at the right time and place.
Being willing to relocate is an absolute must if you want to start at all.
There are places though that I would not bother with!
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Some 2 years ago a good prognosis was forecast because of the "baby boom".
Today you have the recession.
During the days of the forecast boom, finding a job was easier at least at that time even I was getting replies from companies and in many cases required more hours and do keep in touch etc.
Recently I have managed a positive response and selection only by sending a CV. Received a phone call roughly 2 weeks later asking to go in for an interview.
At the same time I was asked by another party how many multi hours I had. Sadly I only had 50 which isn't enough as the limit is 100, however this gig would've been in Africa for a few weeks. (I'm not exactly that desperate yet)
The situation people have to comprehend. It could be that you'll get lucky with a CV fired off to 100 companies but it's far better if you manage a contact in a few companies and bide your time.
Again the one who manages to snag the job isn't always the one with most hours, it's the one who's most likeable and is there at the right time and place.
Being willing to relocate is an absolute must if you want to start at all.
There are places though that I would not bother with!
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I'm not going to get in a bun fight here. Clearly there are some strong opinions here, and the last thing I want is to undermine experianced professionals that have been doing this when I was still in diapers! on one side there are people saying I'm a naive student who doesn't understand how the industry really is and on the other I have people saying if I am willing to relocate and fly smaller equipment I will find work in Canada ( should be noted that I never said I would only fly 737's that is an outlandish expectation in todays climate).
clearly two sides to this question's answer. I suppose we'll see 6 months from now who was right, after all the proof is in the pudding
theres no point speculating where i'll be in 6 months,
thanks for the responses. Cheers and happy flying
G.H
clearly two sides to this question's answer. I suppose we'll see 6 months from now who was right, after all the proof is in the pudding
theres no point speculating where i'll be in 6 months, thanks for the responses. Cheers and happy flying
G.H
