Which ME-CPL/IR package
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Which ME-CPL/IR package
I planning to go to Bristol aviation to complete my CPL, ME rating and ME-IR. They offer two packages:
Package A: MEP Groundschool, 14 hrs dual warrior, 41 hrs FNPT II sim, 23 hrs dual Seneca for £19977.
Package B: MEP Groundschool, 10 hrs dual warrior, 31 hrs FNPT II sim, 37 hrs dual Seneca for £22677.
Which package will you go for and why?
Will it be worth changing the hours on the warrior to hours on the Arrow?
Thank you in advance for any of your comments
Package A: MEP Groundschool, 14 hrs dual warrior, 41 hrs FNPT II sim, 23 hrs dual Seneca for £19977.
Package B: MEP Groundschool, 10 hrs dual warrior, 31 hrs FNPT II sim, 37 hrs dual Seneca for £22677.
Which package will you go for and why?
Will it be worth changing the hours on the warrior to hours on the Arrow?
Thank you in advance for any of your comments
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Id say it depends on how much money you have got. I did all the CPL and the IR flying hours on the twin. It made the IR easier, as I was already comfy with the speed and the complexity of the aircraft. I think thats the main advantage.
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the more hours you can do on the A/C the better, obviously money permitting.
one thing i will say is that you can do a much better course at Wycombe Air Center, you do the CPL on a Beach Sierra then MEP & IR on Beach Dutches which offers a natural progression from CPL to IR without over complicating your CPL with more difficult checks in a twin.
One thing i can say is that a multi CPL is no better than a single CPL, its the IR that matters!!!
one thing i will say is that you can do a much better course at Wycombe Air Center, you do the CPL on a Beach Sierra then MEP & IR on Beach Dutches which offers a natural progression from CPL to IR without over complicating your CPL with more difficult checks in a twin.
One thing i can say is that a multi CPL is no better than a single CPL, its the IR that matters!!!
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Just my opinion, but as I qualified last year, here goes. As you are (correctly) doing the CPL in the UK, strongly consider completing it in a single (I used an ARROW). For most of us, the CPL is far from a "glorified" CPL. It is full of rabbit holes. It stretched me more than the Multi-IR. Much more. Reducing the workload is helpful. CPL is licence, not rating as gentleman/lady correctly emphasizes. Just get CPL out of way. Extra hours on twin, if you're in same position as me, (280 hours) are going to be of little help. Trust me. Schools will love to tell you the extra hours on twin will help you walk into a job. An extra 10 won't make any difference.
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I did my CPL MEIR with Bristol Flying Centre (same as Bristol Aviation i think) last year and can recommend them.
For the CPL more time on the Arrow is probably advantageous over the Warrior as it operates a higher speed (about 140kts instead of 100kts for the warrior), so giving you more time to adjust to faster navigation + quicker thinking time etc - However, ultimately that depends on your experience and ability.
As for the ME IR i would definately suggest taking more time in the aircraft over the sim. Yes it's more expensive, but the sim really can't get you so used to the actual realism of flying - like noise, turbulence, vibration, temperature, radio chatter etc.
Anyway, whichever you decide to go for, good luck.
Jon
For the CPL more time on the Arrow is probably advantageous over the Warrior as it operates a higher speed (about 140kts instead of 100kts for the warrior), so giving you more time to adjust to faster navigation + quicker thinking time etc - However, ultimately that depends on your experience and ability.
As for the ME IR i would definately suggest taking more time in the aircraft over the sim. Yes it's more expensive, but the sim really can't get you so used to the actual realism of flying - like noise, turbulence, vibration, temperature, radio chatter etc.
Anyway, whichever you decide to go for, good luck.
Jon
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My take: go for the cheapest option because: a) it's cheaper, and b) it's less hours on actual aircraft, meaning you're less likely to get your training schedule screwed up by the aircraft going tech, weather, or other availability issues. It will also reduce your overall ancillary costs.
Whichever option you choose is not going to make the slightest difference regarding any career prospects or your flying abilities.
Whichever option you choose is not going to make the slightest difference regarding any career prospects or your flying abilities.
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If you can afford it, take the option with most airtime rather than sim, and as much twin time as you can get. With the current job market, twin time is far more valuable, and in any base, if you choose a package with too little airtime you will most likely end up having to pay extra in any case.
CPL/IR training is a money pit, and unless you are of extremely high ability, it will cost much more than you planned.
Good luck with your training.
CPL/IR training is a money pit, and unless you are of extremely high ability, it will cost much more than you planned.
Good luck with your training.
