The Airlines
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From: Salford Lads Club
I'm sure modular at SFC will be a good course, and good luck with it. The job will come with patience and determination after your training, you'll have your hands full enough over the next 18 months or so to be too busy to be worried about the job.
For what it's worth, my first job was flying night freight on a pretty poor salary for a couple of years, so yes it can be hard in aviation certainly to start. HOWEVER, the flying of an old TP was by far the best flying education/apprenticeship I could ever have hoped for, I learnt a hell of a lot which has stood me in excellent stead for the rest of my career til now. It wasnt a jet, it wasn't paid well, hell it wasn't even heated but Im so glad I did my time there.
So get whatever job you can after training, learn lots and enjoy it.
Good luck.
For what it's worth, my first job was flying night freight on a pretty poor salary for a couple of years, so yes it can be hard in aviation certainly to start. HOWEVER, the flying of an old TP was by far the best flying education/apprenticeship I could ever have hoped for, I learnt a hell of a lot which has stood me in excellent stead for the rest of my career til now. It wasnt a jet, it wasn't paid well, hell it wasn't even heated but Im so glad I did my time there.
So get whatever job you can after training, learn lots and enjoy it.
Good luck.
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Joined: Nov 2008
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From: Nottingham
Yes I know SFC dont do a integrated course but Colin Dobney a while back in AOPA magazine (maybe a diffrent one) said he is considering to do integrated courses.
I made a mistake when I said my dad will help me if I do a integrated course at SFC - I meant OAA/OAT.
I made a mistake when I said my dad will help me if I do a integrated course at SFC - I meant OAA/OAT.
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From: Over Mache Grande?
You have never met me in my life.
But I've read all of your posts, including the deleted ones, and formed my own opinion. Sorry if you disagree.
You have many, many people offering you free advice on here, and yet you choose to disregard it. That says more about you than you obviously know.
No one will chastise you for doing research, but they will when you keep asking the same questions / ignoring advice until you are told what you want to hear.
(BTW, many recruiting sessions dont test for immediate ability, they test for the ability to learn - something you should bear in mind)
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From: EU
Afraz - you don't get it, so I'll try to spell it out.
Any person approaching a career as a professional airline pilot who is going to make a decision on their choice of training organisation based on a simplistic and conceptually flawed list such as you have created is lazy and poorly motivated. That is why this thread is useless.
The opposite to the aforementioned person would be an energetic and thoughtful person, who has looked carefully at the Aviation Industry and adapted their training plan to the current economic crisis, researched each FTO and their links to Airlines, and listened to advice. That person will find your list utterly useless.
But I should add that your visits to FTOs, chats with pilots, and trip to the Flyer show are commendable. That's exactly the right way of making decisions about flying training. Well done.
As you ask, I don't think my comments about Burger King and similar forms of employment are derogatory because they are very undemanding jobs. As for a career in public convenience technical services, I have to admit that my comments were pretty crappy.
Any person approaching a career as a professional airline pilot who is going to make a decision on their choice of training organisation based on a simplistic and conceptually flawed list such as you have created is lazy and poorly motivated. That is why this thread is useless.
The opposite to the aforementioned person would be an energetic and thoughtful person, who has looked carefully at the Aviation Industry and adapted their training plan to the current economic crisis, researched each FTO and their links to Airlines, and listened to advice. That person will find your list utterly useless.
But I should add that your visits to FTOs, chats with pilots, and trip to the Flyer show are commendable. That's exactly the right way of making decisions about flying training. Well done.
As you ask, I don't think my comments about Burger King and similar forms of employment are derogatory because they are very undemanding jobs. As for a career in public convenience technical services, I have to admit that my comments were pretty crappy.
Joined: Nov 2004
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From: UK
"No one would want to sit next to you for 12 hours" how on earth can you make a huge generalization like that about my personality when you dont even know who I am or what my personality is like?
But you just don't get it, do you.
Muppet!!
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From: Nottingham
Pilot Mike I respect your opinion about my personality. My personality will not be to the liking to evreyone. Why should it be?
Pilot Mike, FranklyMrShankly and G-SXTY I have been reading your advice over the past year and know you offer good advice - the main reason why I started this thread is because I have heard from many integrated schools that most airlines prefer integrated. I was hoping that by lisiting the airlines which dont care and comparing them to which that do would dispell the myth that airlines are only on the look out for integrated students.
For example a friend of mine was set hard on the integrated route at OAA because they said Ryanair source thier pilots mainly from OAA and that Ryanair prefer integrated students and so do other airlines like Thomson. I told him that this was a myth. Now he wants to do a modular course at BCFT. He didnt believe me at first but then I got him in touch with some of the pilots I knew, then he slowley converted. I did not force him to do modular I just presented my point of view.
So I thought the list would be usefull to wannabes who have just started researching thier training options. Because many wannabes (myself included) at the very begining think THAT THE INTEGRATED ROUTE IS THE BEST ROUTE AS AIRLINES ONLY ACCEPT INTEGRATED STUDENTS. We become dissilusioned expecting to land a job in RHS of a Boeing 747 with BA because thats what we hear from these big schools who have big marketing budgets.
Pilot Mike, FranklyMrShankly and G-SXTY I have been reading your advice over the past year and know you offer good advice - the main reason why I started this thread is because I have heard from many integrated schools that most airlines prefer integrated. I was hoping that by lisiting the airlines which dont care and comparing them to which that do would dispell the myth that airlines are only on the look out for integrated students.
For example a friend of mine was set hard on the integrated route at OAA because they said Ryanair source thier pilots mainly from OAA and that Ryanair prefer integrated students and so do other airlines like Thomson. I told him that this was a myth. Now he wants to do a modular course at BCFT. He didnt believe me at first but then I got him in touch with some of the pilots I knew, then he slowley converted. I did not force him to do modular I just presented my point of view.
So I thought the list would be usefull to wannabes who have just started researching thier training options. Because many wannabes (myself included) at the very begining think THAT THE INTEGRATED ROUTE IS THE BEST ROUTE AS AIRLINES ONLY ACCEPT INTEGRATED STUDENTS. We become dissilusioned expecting to land a job in RHS of a Boeing 747 with BA because thats what we hear from these big schools who have big marketing budgets.
