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Old 10th Nov 2008, 22:52
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You're costs to making it?

Hello Everyone,

To all who made it online as a professional airline pilot with big or small airline company, am just curious to know of you're costs?

My first taste of flying will come next year when I take a trial flight hoping to embark on an exciting career.

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My costs amounted to over £100k, but in retrospect that was unadvisably excessive.

A close friend of mine went from nothing to fATPL for £26,000. Such a low figure is rare, and I am jealous that he is now on an identical salary to me with TCX but with me having double the repayments!!

Ballpark figure is generally £30-50k, depending on where you go, what route you take, and who ultimately employs you. For instance, if you continue with this and ultimately come to RYR like I have you can add another £25k on top of that for your type rating/uniform/novelty pen etc etc etc. And get the privilege to work your first six months clearing just around £9k...

All the best! A
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60k fATPL
20k Living costs approx
24k TR
So probably just under 100k.
But I did it the integrated way and this suited me. I don't regret it. Yes I know I could have done it cheaper. But I am now in the RHS having left my old career 22 months ago.
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Thanks for the responses I was guessing them kind of figures and suppose it is all about the €€€€€/££££££ at the end of the day.

Next year I plan to star flying from nothing and I already have 15k behind me to get on the road but I wanna make sure flying is for me before I start spending big, if so I'll relish getting stuck into my PPL
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Very good eire great to hear, no disrespect to the ones who knew they had no problem making it but its the likes of yourself I like to talk to. Yep correct and right I definately would be going the modular route also (if flying is for me of course), am just on the basic wage althoguh little or no bills thats why I can save buckets, and next year my company is facing a possible 3 day week which would suit me down to the ground to start out ya'know. Am gonna try my best to avoid debts at all costs because for one am a man who doesn't like to owe in any case.
Eire I don't actually get 'Flying In Ireland' mag do you actually have to order that off the site or can you get it off the shelf?

Thanks,
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I finished my ATPL exams just a month back but was interested to hear comments of working while studying for ATPLs. I tried this but found it incredibly hard (was working as a Project Manager). Doing a 5 day week with studying led me to the decission of dropping down to part time hours, working 3 days and studying for 2 extra days. Eventually even this wasn't enough (in my opinion) and I was lucky enough to get redundancy so could dedicate all my time to it.

Good luck though, if you can do it, it keeps the funds coming in..

As a reply to costs, I'm about 40hrs into my IR, have completed the ME and not started CPL yet. To date, this flight training has cost me about £12.5K

Mark.
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Old 11th Nov 2008, 19:00
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ICAO CPL/ME/IR (Canada)
Licence conversion to JAA CPL/ME/IR
1000+ hours total time including 800hrs odd air taxi time

£34K give or take a few quid.
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About 60K Euros including all flying, accomodation, air tickets(from and to India*6 times) and still dont have a Type Rating

But I did accumulate about 40K miles on my Frequent Flyer Program
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And Forgot to mention, I am NOT going to pay for type rating
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Times have changed

Just to show what a bloody ripoff it has all become.

I did mine in 1998/9. Self improver with 1800hrs nearly all instructing. This meant I had to take enough instruction in order to pass the exams. I did the whole fATPL plus commercial GFT and IR in 5 months and including loss of salary came to 13k.

The system has gone mad for anyone in a similar position.
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Yes eire could you please that would be greatly appreciated, i'll pm ya my address if you happne to find it thanks.
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Approximate all in costs (including various overpriced bits of plastic, accommodation, pot noodles and cans of Red Bull):

PPL: £6k
Hours building: £10k
ATPL written exams: £3k
CPL/IR (including 10% extra for additional training / resit): £23.5k
MCC: £2.5k

Total: £45k

Didn't pay for a type rating, starting salary around £25k. Will be a long, long time before I start to turn a profit on the investment, but getting rich was never the aim.
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Very good SXTY thats sounds like a well managed route, oh and when I start flying I won't be seeing it as a get rich thing it will be more for the love of flying which to my mind is better than sex.
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it will be more for the love of flying which to my mind is better than sex.
Are you sure you're doing it right?
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Devil

The one thing they have in common is that it's not a bad thing to pull out early.
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Haha... classic!
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fATPL for just short of 30k going modular. Did a lot of hour building glider towing. Now if I could get just get that damned job! Currently swimming following a couple of interviews. Both jobs(if they ever happen!) will be bonded TR's.
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The one thing they have in common is that it's not a bad thing to pull out early.
I like that!
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Finished March last year.

0-FATPL £32Kish + MCC £3000

Didn't pay for type rating.
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€75k to the school and roughly €5k-€8k on top of that for other things like food!
Looks like I have a pretty good chance of a "paid for TR" at the moment but if that doesn't come off then I will pay the €30k or so for a TR with FR.
I've spent so much already it would be foolish to stop now!

It's enough to make you

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