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Alpha, HNC course is equivalent to the first year of degree. I'm at college 5 hours a day, then work 8/10 hours, in the afternoons, and I do loads of overtimes on weekends.
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Moduler route will get you a job (in normal times),many airline pilots have come from that route.....take a look at SINBIN, LHR Airbus and no debts.
Alternatively go integrated and STILL pay for a type rating (eg. OAA then Ryan Air).
If money was no object then I would have gone integrated,great fun for a year,but money is a problem so moduler it is.
Alternatively go integrated and STILL pay for a type rating (eg. OAA then Ryan Air).
If money was no object then I would have gone integrated,great fun for a year,but money is a problem so moduler it is.
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Id like to know more about that EFT crowd you linked to as well, has any one else heard of them trained with them? Thanks for sharing your comparisons by the way very handy - sent you a quick pm on it.
I thought i wrote a whole new post about EFT but dosn't seem to be up, must have made a complete balls of it.
Anyway I am in the very same boat as the OP so researching a lot, but I think its integrated for me, saves a lot of bureaucratic crap which would just suit me a lot better I think and the cost and hassle of all those JAA conversions just may not be worth it in the end. I'm still undecided though.
The main arguments do seem to be modular vs integrated in here.
Bristol looks like it might be a good choice, let me know which one you choose or when you choose to do it I might get round to starting about June '09
Personaly i need to sell an apartment to get the ball rolling on financing my training Im 30 yoa now so need to get a move on if I'm gonna do this myself. Got a few hours started on my ppl in before but never had the money to continue now I would be able to get right to the ATPL stage anyway, I'll worry about the type ratings when i get that far.....
Best of luck Ronnie1982 whichever way you choose to do it.
This was my first post(as the other one hasnt appeared) so introductory hello to all I'm from Ireland currently in SE Asia.
(been reading a lot of threads though, great forum)
-Edit, sorry just realized the OP mentioned FTE NOT EFT but my question still stands Ive searched for it with no results, they say you could finish with 1,500 hours and FAA and JAA qualifications for roughly 60k USD but i take it with a pinch of salt until i hear from somone whose been there or at least know about it.
I thought i wrote a whole new post about EFT but dosn't seem to be up, must have made a complete balls of it.
Anyway I am in the very same boat as the OP so researching a lot, but I think its integrated for me, saves a lot of bureaucratic crap which would just suit me a lot better I think and the cost and hassle of all those JAA conversions just may not be worth it in the end. I'm still undecided though.
The main arguments do seem to be modular vs integrated in here.
Bristol looks like it might be a good choice, let me know which one you choose or when you choose to do it I might get round to starting about June '09
Personaly i need to sell an apartment to get the ball rolling on financing my training Im 30 yoa now so need to get a move on if I'm gonna do this myself. Got a few hours started on my ppl in before but never had the money to continue now I would be able to get right to the ATPL stage anyway, I'll worry about the type ratings when i get that far.....
Best of luck Ronnie1982 whichever way you choose to do it.
This was my first post(as the other one hasnt appeared) so introductory hello to all I'm from Ireland currently in SE Asia.
(been reading a lot of threads though, great forum)
-Edit, sorry just realized the OP mentioned FTE NOT EFT but my question still stands Ive searched for it with no results, they say you could finish with 1,500 hours and FAA and JAA qualifications for roughly 60k USD but i take it with a pinch of salt until i hear from somone whose been there or at least know about it.
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What on earth are you driveling about the number of schools affecting your prospects??!!
Have you any 1st hand experience...without even a PPL, we suspect not!
Having just moved over to the LHS with some 4 schools under my belt (inc GS), I have NEVER been asked anything other than where I did my IR and, if it was a 1st time pass, and I suspect even that didn't matter.
PLEASE!... stop giving advice you are nowhere near in a position to give!!...it's becoming a very dangerous habit!!
What on earth are you driveling about the number of schools affecting your prospects??!!
Have you any 1st hand experience...without even a PPL, we suspect not!
Having just moved over to the LHS with some 4 schools under my belt (inc GS), I have NEVER been asked anything other than where I did my IR and, if it was a 1st time pass, and I suspect even that didn't matter.
PLEASE!... stop giving advice you are nowhere near in a position to give!!...it's becoming a very dangerous habit!!
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Alpha, I'm not using Daddy's money. I actually work full time, while still doing full time HNC at college
Erm.. About My Parents..
Becoming A Pilot Is My Dream Since I Was 5.. That Was When I First Got On The Plane When I Went For Holidays.. I Will Never Forget That Day
I Think Im Gonna Start The PPL Over The Summer.. And Il Try To Get A Job So Il Have More Money So I Will Be Able To Fly A Little Bit More. I Have Just Spoke To My Parents.. For Now They Are Ready To Give Me 2.500 Pounds To Study.. Over The Summer. It Helps. At Least I Will Get Started On What I Want To Do. I Think I Will Gain My License By My 17th Birthday. Cant Hold PPL Before Im 17 Anyway So..
So I've Got Over Half A Year To Get It Done. I Was Also Wondering.. How Much Does The Full CPL Costs..?
Becoming A Pilot Is My Dream Since I Was 5.. That Was When I First Got On The Plane When I Went For Holidays.. I Will Never Forget That Day
I Think Im Gonna Start The PPL Over The Summer.. And Il Try To Get A Job So Il Have More Money So I Will Be Able To Fly A Little Bit More. I Have Just Spoke To My Parents.. For Now They Are Ready To Give Me 2.500 Pounds To Study.. Over The Summer. It Helps. At Least I Will Get Started On What I Want To Do. I Think I Will Gain My License By My 17th Birthday. Cant Hold PPL Before Im 17 Anyway So..
So I've Got Over Half A Year To Get It Done. I Was Also Wondering.. How Much Does The Full CPL Costs..?
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Alpha male doesn't have a PPL either. LOL a lot of unqualified advice so far...
Regarding EFT I know multiple ex students; one is now chief pilot for a modelling/lingerie company in Italy, if that's not good Advertising I don't know what is
Ps to list all the other EFT guys i know one of each went to FlyBe, Aer Lingus, Ryanair, CityJet, Bmi Regional and Air Baltic.
Regarding EFT I know multiple ex students; one is now chief pilot for a modelling/lingerie company in Italy, if that's not good Advertising I don't know what is
Ps to list all the other EFT guys i know one of each went to FlyBe, Aer Lingus, Ryanair, CityJet, Bmi Regional and Air Baltic.
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Alpha male doesn't have a PPL either. LOL a lot of unqualified advice so far...
I don't think you'll find I advice anybody on what to do. If people ask on the forum or via PM why I favour one route over another I will tell them why. i.e. PM asking why I'm no longer looking to do my training in US and considering South Africa instead? And why not do it in the UK?
Then I will tell them why, I will 'research' these different ways of getting my training done and I'll keep an eye on the price of UK training, USD v GBP & ZAR v GBP. This isn't exactly dishing out advise like Daria where she will 'assure' people of how much a full fATPL will cost.
The only advise I take from this forum are from people who are in a position to give it out (like your kind self via PM), I don't judge people for going Int over Mod, I don't judge people or advise people in paying for their own TR with Ryanair ... In fact I am just jealous of them, but I'm doing this debt free and with my own money so please forgive me if I'm taking my time getting the training done in this booming industry where fATPL pilots with 250hrs are a rare site.
If people ask where they can find posts on 'Eagle Jet International' is it a crime for me to point them in the right direction? ... If it is BigGrecian then PM me and I'll happily take but not give from the forum (personally I think it rude to keep taking from people but never returning the favour).
Now lets not spoil what is a good thread started by Ronnie.
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I've just updated the list with latest price quotes and exchange rates. The spread is even greater now due to exchange rate movement.
I have also just about concluded my own research into the schools, and this is my assessment:
Overall Customer Satisfaction
The two equal front runners are Bristol Aviation and Flight Training Europe, followed a little way by WAAC and CTC. I've managed to speak to many graduates of each of these schools. Oxford and Cabair graduates were most critical of their FTO, and CTC was next worse.
Value for Money
The list in the first post of this thread tells its own tale. Nobody I have spoken to was able to show any additional benefit for additional cost. That is to say at the extremes, Bristol Aviation's course is just as good as Flight Training Europe's which costs 65% more
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Employability of Graduates
In times past, CTC would have been first choice, assuming that you were not on a sponsored scheme with Cabair or FTE. However, right now I don't think it makes any difference. The reputations of Bristol, CTC, FTE and Oxford are all very good and each claims good relatsionships with employers. Past graduates of all 6 schools have readilly found good employment, leading me to conclude that when the airlines are recruiting it does not mean a thing where you trained, and when they are not recruiting it does not mean a thing where you trained! Your employability on graduation is down to you and the job market.
Anyone any contradictory thoughts (other than don't do it now, which is a completely different thread)?
As an aside, I have to say that if I were in a Eurozone country and considerning training now, the UK would look very attractive: a €102,000 course for €63,000? Bargain!
I have also just about concluded my own research into the schools, and this is my assessment:
Overall Customer Satisfaction
The two equal front runners are Bristol Aviation and Flight Training Europe, followed a little way by WAAC and CTC. I've managed to speak to many graduates of each of these schools. Oxford and Cabair graduates were most critical of their FTO, and CTC was next worse.
Value for Money
The list in the first post of this thread tells its own tale. Nobody I have spoken to was able to show any additional benefit for additional cost. That is to say at the extremes, Bristol Aviation's course is just as good as Flight Training Europe's which costs 65% more
.Employability of Graduates
In times past, CTC would have been first choice, assuming that you were not on a sponsored scheme with Cabair or FTE. However, right now I don't think it makes any difference. The reputations of Bristol, CTC, FTE and Oxford are all very good and each claims good relatsionships with employers. Past graduates of all 6 schools have readilly found good employment, leading me to conclude that when the airlines are recruiting it does not mean a thing where you trained, and when they are not recruiting it does not mean a thing where you trained! Your employability on graduation is down to you and the job market.
Anyone any contradictory thoughts (other than don't do it now, which is a completely different thread)?
As an aside, I have to say that if I were in a Eurozone country and considerning training now, the UK would look very attractive: a €102,000 course for €63,000? Bargain!
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OAA - extra 30k for the experience of a BA interview....Controversial thought but could go modular and afford a self sponsored type rating!
Just an opinion from my experiences!
Just an opinion from my experiences!
Do your groundschool at Bristol and your MODULAR CPL/IR at ..................
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ps this is an appalling time to be starting a to train to become a pilot.
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ps this is an appalling time to be starting a to train to become a pilot.
