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Old 15th Oct 2008, 16:51
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Thank god, im not the only one! i started my training 2 weeks ago and thought i was doing quite well, got through 2 weeks worth of work in just 1 week. Then i hit GRID NAV!?!? What i find im having the most difficult with is the fact you read the information, and understand it, you fill in the small questionnaire after each section and get 100% and feel quite pleased with the result. Then you hit the Progress tests which have questions which havent been explained in the information.... find myself going through the progress tests after to work out what i need to know.

Also does anyone else know why the calculation 12, squre root on the flight level doesnt work. When i did the progress tests on this i found that the calculation is 1.25 x the FL.

Has anyone esle found any wrongs in their information?
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Old 15th Oct 2008, 22:55
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Can I just say your in my shoes exactly, grid nav!! Find it the same with the tests, all happy getting my 100% and then boommm...you fail the progress test and end up learning loads of new things you'd swear you hadn't read about before! Maybe its the bristol way..because so far I am learning a lot because it makes me sit down not wanting to fail it again so i work that little bit harder!

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Old 17th Nov 2008, 19:15
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I am doing the Gnav now with bristol.
You are right,the notes are not clear about a lot of points on this subject strange enough.
I know how to draw and do all that points when it comes to rhubm lines and gc but when you are doing the progression test and follow the steps in the book, it just wont add up not matter how you look at it.
Is just a nightmare.
I have decided to get extra help by a friend who is willing to help me but you are right,it looks like it will be the hardest of them all.
Good help us on this.
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Old 17th Nov 2008, 21:36
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Gen nav is indeed a pain in the arse. It was the only thing i failed but i managed to pass on my second attempt. My best advice would be to do tons of practice questions such as BGS question bank. Also make sure you keep nice and calm in the exam, there is a time limit but you don't need to scream through it in a blind panic as i did on my first attempt, there's plenty of time. Loads of plotting and CRP5 in my exam. Good luck
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Old 17th Nov 2008, 22:19
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As a present airline jet F/O I can say that Gen nav was one of my hardest subjects.
It is tough but keep going at it, and know that CRP like the back of your hand. If you are still thinking which way to turn it, you don't know it well enough.

Find one system with it wind down, whatever, and stick with it!

Good luck, and just work hard at this subject!

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Old 17th Nov 2008, 22:28
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The good news is that the exam is a lot easier than it could be! - there is a lot of plotting and CRP5 calculations in it. The course content is a bit of a minefield, but honestly try not to have a mental block about it and slowly work your way through it. The Bristol brush up course is very good and you won't believe it now but if you have gone through the material thoroughly and then work hard at Bristol and in the evenings you will be absolutely fine.
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Old 18th Nov 2008, 13:23
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I agree its a hard subject and the mental block is probably the hardest thing to get over, I also found the Bristol notes hard to follow and ended up leaving it until a third sitting. The brush up was good but you needed to be quite proficient already and build from a good foundation.

I was lucky enough to get help from another school and managed to get through it first time and actually enjoy it! I found their notes took me through it step by step without confusing me.


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