Flight Academy Blackpool
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ok - not keeping my eye on it, just got talking to a lad who flew into our airfield the other day and recognised the name of the organisation. Got to admit that cirrus deal sounds ok but can't believe many train in one and if it's all group membership then that's all above board anyway. That's the point - all I was trying to say was that I was right last year - this lad said he was lucky to get some time for a landaway in as weekends were getting chocker with training. Didn't seem fair to me and he wasn't too chuffed as he seemed to think he'd signed a contract for a max of 20 members. If I could get people to pay the running costs for my business while preventing them from using what they're paying me for I'd be happy too. Therein lies the naivety. Hundred's of hours at £80/hr - so you've spent £16000-£24000+ with that organisation??
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yeh thats about right 215 hours over a period of 4 yrs as I have been a member of agl since inception .
We have members who have doubled even trebled that and in less time .
You will struggle in the group to get slots at weekends as funnily enough thats when everyone wants to fly . However that said if you plan in advance its not normally an issue .
The groups are based on a ratio of students and members so there is a nice mix , there may well be times when a member cant get an aircraft when he wants it due to another member using it for training , after all everyone is a group member student or not and a lot of members are people who did their ppl with us. We have a superb online booking system and you can see at a glance when aircraft are available and when they are not . We have many members who are hour buidling for cpl and I have yet to hear anyone moan Obviously there are times when aircraft are offline for whatever reason , this is aviation and we cannot magic aircraft up out of thin air .
The aircraft grouping works well and always has done .
If your friend was having difficulty in booking aircraft he must have been very rigid when he wanted it but thats for him to raise with the ops staff if there is an issue .
BUt as stated before if you can go and find a cirrus sr20 anywhere in the country for 80per hour wet without buying an equity share , then snap it up .
If yo are only planning on flying once or twice per month then it obviosuly not worth it , if you are an hour builder flying many hours then it is definately worth it .
And we have quite a lot of students on the sr20 and indeed are the first training organisation in the uk to have a student complete his ppl on one only last month .
But yo shouldnt when thinkning about this differentiate between students and members , there are just members some are training some are flying on their own and all are equally entitled to book when they wish.
and as you know from ppl training ppl students only book and hour or two at a time solo flyers book them all day sowith that rationale who do you think would suffer ?? in fact no one really ,,,does the system works .
This is why the third brand new sr20 will be online within a few weeks
We have members who have doubled even trebled that and in less time .
You will struggle in the group to get slots at weekends as funnily enough thats when everyone wants to fly . However that said if you plan in advance its not normally an issue .
The groups are based on a ratio of students and members so there is a nice mix , there may well be times when a member cant get an aircraft when he wants it due to another member using it for training , after all everyone is a group member student or not and a lot of members are people who did their ppl with us. We have a superb online booking system and you can see at a glance when aircraft are available and when they are not . We have many members who are hour buidling for cpl and I have yet to hear anyone moan Obviously there are times when aircraft are offline for whatever reason , this is aviation and we cannot magic aircraft up out of thin air .
The aircraft grouping works well and always has done .
If your friend was having difficulty in booking aircraft he must have been very rigid when he wanted it but thats for him to raise with the ops staff if there is an issue .
BUt as stated before if you can go and find a cirrus sr20 anywhere in the country for 80per hour wet without buying an equity share , then snap it up .
If yo are only planning on flying once or twice per month then it obviosuly not worth it , if you are an hour builder flying many hours then it is definately worth it .
And we have quite a lot of students on the sr20 and indeed are the first training organisation in the uk to have a student complete his ppl on one only last month .
But yo shouldnt when thinkning about this differentiate between students and members , there are just members some are training some are flying on their own and all are equally entitled to book when they wish.
and as you know from ppl training ppl students only book and hour or two at a time solo flyers book them all day sowith that rationale who do you think would suffer ?? in fact no one really ,,,does the system works .
This is why the third brand new sr20 will be online within a few weeks
