Marketing Scam Alert!!!!
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Unity is Strength
Just to let you know, if we all stand together we can defeat the rouges in this industry!
Call it coinsidence, following our discussion I have it under good authority that a certain flying operation has taken the following actions;
1. Complete revamp of promotional literature ( I will be returning to scrutinise this at a later date in my investigative fashion)
2. The surprising installation of a new simulator,
3. Advertising Standards Authority getting involved.
This shows that if we all stick together then we can make changes in this ruthless industry.
Thank you to all those who supported me and those who didn't, try and learn something. Your the reason Ryanair can abuse us the way it does!
Call it coinsidence, following our discussion I have it under good authority that a certain flying operation has taken the following actions;
1. Complete revamp of promotional literature ( I will be returning to scrutinise this at a later date in my investigative fashion)
2. The surprising installation of a new simulator,
3. Advertising Standards Authority getting involved.
This shows that if we all stick together then we can make changes in this ruthless industry.
Thank you to all those who supported me and those who didn't, try and learn something. Your the reason Ryanair can abuse us the way it does!
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Thomas have you actuallly come across anyone else that thought they were embarking on an integrated course at BCFT? Jesus give it a rest!
The new sim was to replace the one that caught on fire I believe. (The new sim is pretty nice by the way!!!)
Time to let this drop, seriously enough is enough mate. What started as you getting something so simple confused has now turned into you making them out to be some sort of shoddy rip off merchants that hasn't got a clue. At 17 years old this is rather brave quite frankly! I don't really see how you can bring RYR into any of this either.
Just a waste of time goign on and on Thomas. Move on and LET IT GO!!!
The new sim was to replace the one that caught on fire I believe. (The new sim is pretty nice by the way!!!)
Time to let this drop, seriously enough is enough mate. What started as you getting something so simple confused has now turned into you making them out to be some sort of shoddy rip off merchants that hasn't got a clue. At 17 years old this is rather brave quite frankly! I don't really see how you can bring RYR into any of this either.
Just a waste of time goign on and on Thomas. Move on and LET IT GO!!!
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Oh God not again.
By the way Thomas, as you are sure I have no airline experience, currently sat in a dressing gown in my hotel room in the Congo, just arrived and they are making my room, god this pretending to be a pilot is expensive!!!.
Glad you sorted out the baddies! we can all sleep at night now.
By the way Thomas, as you are sure I have no airline experience, currently sat in a dressing gown in my hotel room in the Congo, just arrived and they are making my room, god this pretending to be a pilot is expensive!!!.
Glad you sorted out the baddies! we can all sleep at night now.
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Can you confirm that your name is Thomas Harrison, and that the age you have given is correct? A date of birth might be useful as well, just to be fair on any other Thomas Harrison in commercial aviation.
I am just hoping to ensure that I never offer you a job, as it is expensive to train a pilot and there is no way you are going to remain long in any position in this industry. You are far too naive, self-satisfied and sensitive, and have a poor attitude to others not compatible with modern flight safety teaching and CRM. Mustflywillfly put it ... succinctly, let me say.
I have recently seen the advert in question, in an old magazine. It could be misinterpreted the way you did. However it could also be interpreted the way it seems to have been intended (that they gave all the advantages of the integrated system and all the advantages of the modular). I assume that is why the ASA had a word, and they have cleared up the ambiguity. However no-one who had done the research rational people who are considering pending £45,000 do would make the incorrect interpretation, as they would know that only a couple of schools offer integrated training (I know them, as graduates of integrated courses are not suitable for the flying my company does, so I don't consider them for jobs) and BCFT is not one of them.
Can you confirm that your name is Thomas Harrison, and that the age you have given is correct? A date of birth might be useful as well, just to be fair on any other Thomas Harrison in commercial aviation.
I am just hoping to ensure that I never offer you a job, as it is expensive to train a pilot and there is no way you are going to remain long in any position in this industry. You are far too naive, self-satisfied and sensitive, and have a poor attitude to others not compatible with modern flight safety teaching and CRM. Mustflywillfly put it ... succinctly, let me say.
I have recently seen the advert in question, in an old magazine. It could be misinterpreted the way you did. However it could also be interpreted the way it seems to have been intended (that they gave all the advantages of the integrated system and all the advantages of the modular). I assume that is why the ASA had a word, and they have cleared up the ambiguity. However no-one who had done the research rational people who are considering pending £45,000 do would make the incorrect interpretation, as they would know that only a couple of schools offer integrated training (I know them, as graduates of integrated courses are not suitable for the flying my company does, so I don't consider them for jobs) and BCFT is not one of them.
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Merrily clicking away with a glass of merlot next to me, feeling in a bit of a 'buzzy' daze having just flown an empty B767-300...always a good mood for a bit of PPRuNe....FANTASTIC....TOMMY HARRISON is back on line
Icing on the cake pal...i've missed you...
Icing on the cake pal...i've missed you...
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Thomas,
Now that your one man (perhaps I shouldn't use that word here) campaign has forced BCFT to clean up their act, when will you be starting your training with them?
Or have you decided to train elsewhere? What other FTOs have you visited? Oh, none so far? Been too busy writing letters to the ASA and running into daddy's office to show him the latest insults people have hurled at you on PPRuNe?
Well, I for one can't wait for you to visit another FTO and discover, perish the thought, that their brochure paints them in a good light, is somewhat confusing the first time daddy reads it to you, contains difficult to substantiate claims, uses big words and you discover that their aircraft have a scratch in the paint down on the underside, if you crawl underneath and look really close (go on, it should be easy for a smallish troll).
I just can't wait to read what you have to say about the next FTO you visit. In fact, if you will be so kind as to state which Manor House you reside in this week, I am sure that readers here will arrange for their favorite FTO to send you a brochure. After all, there's not much mileage left for you in slagging BCFT and it was shaping up to be a long and dull summer until this thread came along! Please pick another FTO so you can continue our education in the techniques and practices of recognizing marketing hyperbole.
One last question for you: When have you ever stood together with anyone?
This sounds like a marketing scam, packaging yourself up as someone capable of solidarity with the great unwashed mass of commoners who eagerly await your next entertaining response so they can laugh their arses off at you. Mind sending me the address for the ASA so I can report you sonny boy?
Now that your one man (perhaps I shouldn't use that word here) campaign has forced BCFT to clean up their act, when will you be starting your training with them?
Or have you decided to train elsewhere? What other FTOs have you visited? Oh, none so far? Been too busy writing letters to the ASA and running into daddy's office to show him the latest insults people have hurled at you on PPRuNe?
Well, I for one can't wait for you to visit another FTO and discover, perish the thought, that their brochure paints them in a good light, is somewhat confusing the first time daddy reads it to you, contains difficult to substantiate claims, uses big words and you discover that their aircraft have a scratch in the paint down on the underside, if you crawl underneath and look really close (go on, it should be easy for a smallish troll).
I just can't wait to read what you have to say about the next FTO you visit. In fact, if you will be so kind as to state which Manor House you reside in this week, I am sure that readers here will arrange for their favorite FTO to send you a brochure. After all, there's not much mileage left for you in slagging BCFT and it was shaping up to be a long and dull summer until this thread came along! Please pick another FTO so you can continue our education in the techniques and practices of recognizing marketing hyperbole.
One last question for you: When have you ever stood together with anyone?
This sounds like a marketing scam, packaging yourself up as someone capable of solidarity with the great unwashed mass of commoners who eagerly await your next entertaining response so they can laugh their arses off at you. Mind sending me the address for the ASA so I can report you sonny boy?
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On a positive note, if he is for real that is, can't wait to read the thread when he ask's a genuine question about the 'minefield' of flying training....
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It is kind of ironic that perhaps the most divisive and offensive individual in this forum heads up his latest effort with "unity is strength"..... hmmmm what would you know about unity when with a few days you have alienated most of your peers??
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Which Marketing Scam?
Is T.H. simply the latest, but better, version of this scam ?
1. Present as potential or past customer of named FTO.
2. Criticise the (pick one or more of) advertising/aircraft/course/examiner/instructor/owner/premises/prices etc.
3. Appeal for Wannabe/official support and threaten FTO
4. React in a bizarre way to anyone or anything positive about FTO
5. Generate free advertising and sympathy for FTO
If he exists, would be interesting to know what or who motivates the man.
If a scam, certainly the best for a long-time- congratulations because most, inc. moderators, seem to have been suckered.
1. Present as potential or past customer of named FTO.
2. Criticise the (pick one or more of) advertising/aircraft/course/examiner/instructor/owner/premises/prices etc.
3. Appeal for Wannabe/official support and threaten FTO
4. React in a bizarre way to anyone or anything positive about FTO
5. Generate free advertising and sympathy for FTO
If he exists, would be interesting to know what or who motivates the man.
If a scam, certainly the best for a long-time- congratulations because most, inc. moderators, seem to have been suckered.
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Thomas Harrison
Thomas Harrison may I welcome you to the fold. Your humility and sensitivity have already proven that any training establishment would be a better place for you presence.
May I also add that thanks to the sheer genius of stating your real name as your user ID, you will no doubt place yourself quite favouribly with any recruitment staff who may happen to stumble across your words of wisdom.
So 17 year old Thomas Harrison, we thank you.
Kind Regards
CR
P.S I would like to apologise in advance to families any other Thomas Harrisons found bleeding outside The Flyer Show/Flying Schools/Airports etc, however we may not be able to resist.
May I also add that thanks to the sheer genius of stating your real name as your user ID, you will no doubt place yourself quite favouribly with any recruitment staff who may happen to stumble across your words of wisdom.
So 17 year old Thomas Harrison, we thank you.
Kind Regards
CR
P.S I would like to apologise in advance to families any other Thomas Harrisons found bleeding outside The Flyer Show/Flying Schools/Airports etc, however we may not be able to resist.
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Thomas Harrison - good grief, i was lucky enough to go to public school and i have never known arrogance to such a level, leaves me thinking that you cannot be for real as some of your comments and thoughts give you away i think as a mere 17 year old?
If you are for real then your father should be disgraced at your behaviour after investing his hard earned crispies to turn out such a rude arrogant little snot nose.
Post if note on desk for your CV in the future!
If you are for real then your father should be disgraced at your behaviour after investing his hard earned crispies to turn out such a rude arrogant little snot nose.
Post if note on desk for your CV in the future!
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Thomas Please come back all is forgiven!
WWW can't we have a thread dedicated to this fine young man?
I truly hope to sit on his right hand side in a cockpit one day.
WWW can't we have a thread dedicated to this fine young man?
I truly hope to sit on his right hand side in a cockpit one day.
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Yes - he does have a habit of going away, coming back - insulting everyone on here - and then dissappearing again. Perhaps he is on daddy's yacht - and he can only use his gold plated laptop when he is in port.