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Gutted - Failed class 1 Ocular Muscle Balance

Old 13th May 2008, 13:10
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I'm gutted for you peppl. I have my Class 1 initial coming up in a couple of weeks and I know how I will feel if something I can't do anything about prevents me from flying.

I know we can't change anything but...

If I look up and to the right, I'm looking over the top of my specs and therefore don't have much in the way of useful vision in this area. If I want to look up and to the right, I'll move my head, not my specs.

What difference does it make if, as in this case, someone sees slightly double in this region? You'd think if a candidate has normal vision in the field of view covered by an average pair of specs, it would be acceptable.
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Old 13th May 2008, 14:25
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Just out of interest what test did he do to determine you had double vision when you look up and to the right. how could he tell?

I had my initial class 1 last week, passed it although I did have a problem with my eye. Aparently I have thick blood cells in there that make me bloodshot alot. I feared the worst.
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Old 13th May 2008, 16:10
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Further to my previous reply - thanks to you all. Yes this was the initial test at LGW. Regarding what tests he did I am not sure of them by name but one where he asked me to hold a black contraption in front of my eyes and tell him what the white and red arrow pointed to. Then one where I had to tell him where a red [email protected] (vertical and horizontal) lay in relation to a thicker red line. He then had me looking at the letter board again and held a rule in front of both eyes, the rule had some kind of lenses and I had to look at a letter and tell him when I saw a shadow. Lastly he held his pen in front of me, told me to focus on it and tell him when I saw double.
I have booked another appointment on Friday with someone to see if they can tell me anymore.
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Old 13th May 2008, 23:03
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Really hope it works out for you peppl.

It does seem a little unfair, considering someone who wears glasses with a prescription close to the limits will have very blurred vision whenever they look outside the rim of the glasses, but I guess rules are rules.

Best of luck,

Stu
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Old 13th May 2008, 23:15
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RexBanner I totally agree, he was a complete up his own arse spoon!
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Old 14th May 2008, 06:46
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Have to agree, I would say he is just a little cautious! He shot me down for muscle balance. Said I could see the specialist, but it may not give any hope. Saw the specialist, no problems at at all! Renewals are much more straight forward, usually with the application of common sense too, so if the AME can see there are no major problems, your fine! ie if you have got a little thing like the muscle balance, as long as it does not inhibit your vision, its ok.
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Old 14th May 2008, 10:07
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expedite08,

So you went to see the specialist and you got the class one in the end?
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Old 14th May 2008, 11:15
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Certainly did
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Old 14th May 2008, 18:24
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Hi,

I went to my eye doctor yesterday. I have sometimes trouble with that, I feel I see double. Specially when I`m tired. The doctor did some tests like covering one eye while looking at a fixed point at a distance, then covering my other eye back and foth and when he uncovered both I did see double for a split second. He used the same test with a prism and I did not have the problem anymore. He told me I have something called endophoria or something and he prescribed glasses with a prism. Is this a problem for a class 1?????
Other than that my vision is corrected to 20/20.

Thanks,
Arturo
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Old 14th May 2008, 19:10
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I have my class one medical coming up in the next few weeks is well!
I think there's nothing wrong with me. My eyes okay, I don't have double visions etc. But Im still worried that I wont pass, Im just really nervous about it. If I don't pass it.. it will ruin all my plans
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Old 14th May 2008, 19:37
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Sorry to hear about that Peppl, you must be so dissapointed, no-one deserves that!

Keep your chin up son!
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Old 14th May 2008, 20:24
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Again, thanks to all. To be honest I feel quite positive. I have an appointment on Friday, hopefully this will give me a bit more information on it.
In addition I have looked at the Australian and Canadian vision requirements, I am no specialist but I may have an option there. Not sure about South Africa, the website was down. Any other options?
All I need to find out now is...if I know I would pass the vision requirements for another state, can I do the IR etc here and then go to my chosen country and just do the CPL?
I'll email a few schools tonight.
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Old 14th May 2008, 22:17
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Peppl, as much as I'm sure it's been hard for you over the last few days, it must also feel good to know you've got the advice, support and experience of these fine members of PPRuNe behind you.

This is what the PPRuNe is all about

Good luck with finding a way Peppl, I'm sure you'll find it.

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Old 15th May 2008, 05:35
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Kerosine, the advise and help from everyone has been fantastic. It certainly has made a big difference over the course of this week.
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Old 15th May 2008, 12:10
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Parson ->

If you really want to fly, don't give up too easily even if it means looking at FAA. My eyesight was borderline at initial and I only got in due being 29 and not 19 (ie it wouldn't get alot worse).

Does that mean that if I'm 19 and my near-sightedness is borderline but still within requirements (-5.00 in one eye and -3.5 in the other) I can still fail the medical because of my age and the prospect of "getting worse"?
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Old 15th May 2008, 12:18
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Does that mean that if I'm 19 and my near-sightedness is borderline but still within requirements (-5.00 in one eye and -3.5 in the other) I can still fail the medical because of my age and the prospect of "getting worse"?
Your optitician might be able to give you an educated guess on if your eyesight will deteriorate, although I have no idea what the Class 1 Med examiner would say.

I'm assuming you already have this info, but the sepcifications are found here if not.

http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?ca...pe=68&gid=1250
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Old 15th May 2008, 12:35
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Yes! That's the site I'd read but couldn't find again *bookmarks* Thanks. And CAA's official at that. Shame on me...
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Old 15th May 2008, 13:11
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When I did the class 1 in Ireland I don't recall them checking my eyes to that degree, I did a colour chart test and a distance test but it seemed straight forward.
Usually when someone goes to a doctor for anything they always get a second opinion particularly if it is something serious, my point being this, I'm just wondering if you should maybe book to do the class one here in Ireland or another centre, don't tell them you failed it the first time and see if they pick up on the eye problem. O.K. it's gonna cost you some more cash but you may get lucky and find that they miss it or deem it as not serious enough to fail you.
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Old 15th May 2008, 16:09
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PEPPL sorry for your troubles, definately see a specialist to see if they can help.

For the other people out there, it does seem eyes are a major failure issue, what about downloading the caa eye test sheet and getting an eye test at your local optician ? Mine charged 10 extra for the testing and report. So it cost 25 to get a full test before spending 300 ish on the class 1. I know you could still fail at Ggatwick but at least you are minimising the risk.

All the best to all.

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Old 15th May 2008, 17:47
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Surely age cannot have anything to do with whether you pass the medical or not. If your eyesight is within the limits, then surely that means that you can pass!

I certainly hope so - as i am in the same boat as yourself!


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