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Hi, i haven't taken the test but i am taking it next tues+wed.
I think the best thing you can do is either.... prepare for the worst and expect the best so just study the physics i'm sure it won't hurt to know it as physics and maths are interlinked.
or contact Nick mylne at oxford he's the head of skills assesments and just ask him, you could've saved a lot of time by just calling and asking. they're really helpful
a good aviation news site is www.abtn.co.uk
good luck.
Oli
I think the best thing you can do is either.... prepare for the worst and expect the best so just study the physics i'm sure it won't hurt to know it as physics and maths are interlinked.
or contact Nick mylne at oxford he's the head of skills assesments and just ask him, you could've saved a lot of time by just calling and asking. they're really helpful
a good aviation news site is www.abtn.co.uk
good luck.
Oli
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thanks oli
so i take it your assessment is on the 13th and 14th
as i said in another thread i know someone who will be doing their assmenet on those dates.
your group exercise on the 14th right?
maybe you will see him there
do you know how many are going to be doing the assessment on those days?
also how are you revising for the compass test especially for the maths and physics exam?
has anyone told you the type of question you can expect?
so i take it your assessment is on the 13th and 14th
as i said in another thread i know someone who will be doing their assmenet on those dates.
your group exercise on the 14th right?
maybe you will see him there
do you know how many are going to be doing the assessment on those days?
also how are you revising for the compass test especially for the maths and physics exam?
has anyone told you the type of question you can expect?
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i e-mailed nick mlyne and he sent me a revision list which is quite worrying. i'm just glad i've had it for ages. feel sick yet? i do lol.
PRE – APP STUDY GUIDE
A basic understanding of the following topics to GCSE grade ‘C’ standard prior to attending the APP Course is strongly recommended.
MATHS
Algebraic Substitution
Simple equations
Subject of the formulae
Factorisation
Expand and simplify
Indices
Functions
The line
Travel graph
Numbers
Percentages
Areas and volumes
Pythagoras theory and trigonometry
Problems in bearings
Geometric terms
The circle
Vectors
Practice Mental Maths !!
PHYSICS
Mechanics
Work and power
Energy
Potential and kinetic
Input and output energy
Pressure - solid liquids and atmospheric
Principles of Hydraulics
Gears and cogs
Linear motion equations
Gradient
Distance time graph - Velocity time graphs
Force and momentum
Resultant force
Newton's Law
Forces
Mass, weight and density
Vectors and scalars
Center of gravity (moments and balance)
The turning effect of forces
The law of moments: levers
Parallel forces in equilibrium
Couples
Principles of gyros
Principles of piston and turbo jet engines
The Otto cycle (engines)
(You must be familiar with both Imperial and Metric units and be able to convert one to the other)
Sound
Longitudinal waves
Sound waves
Stationary waves
Optics
Sources and reflectors of light
Magnification
Reflection Laws
Refraction
Convex and concave
Magnifying glass
Dispersion
Heat
Heat and temperature
Internal energy
Temp scales: including Kelvin and converting temperature from one scale to another
Heating and cooling curves
Melting
Boiling
Evaporation
Gas pressure
Pressure and temperature of a gas
Volume and temperature of a gas
Volume and pressure of a gas
Expansion on matter
Heat transmission: - Conduction - Convection and radiation
Boyles, Charles and the General Gas Laws
Magnetism (Ideally you should understand the following but it is not essential)
Magnets
Theory of magnetism
Magnetic fields and neutral points
Magnetic effect of current through wire - coil and solenoid
Electromagnetic
Motor effect of current through a wire
The simple D.c motor
Electromagnetic induction in a straight wire - solenoid
Transformers
The transmission of electrical power
Fields and rule
Current electricity (Ideally you should understand the following but it is not essential)
Circuit components and diagram
Electric circuits
Potential Difference
Electrical resistance
Ohms law
Series parallel and mixed circuits
Heating effect of an electric current
Electrical power
Direct current and alternating current
The live, neutral and earth wires
Circuit Breakers, fuses and switches
Principles of electric generators
General
General outline of metals and materials commonly used in aircraft
The principles of aerodynamic lift
Cloud formation and general principles of meteorology
Confidence in handling numbers and ability in mental arithmetic
PRE – APP STUDY GUIDE
A basic understanding of the following topics to GCSE grade ‘C’ standard prior to attending the APP Course is strongly recommended.
MATHS
Algebraic Substitution
Simple equations
Subject of the formulae
Factorisation
Expand and simplify
Indices
Functions
The line
Travel graph
Numbers
Percentages
Areas and volumes
Pythagoras theory and trigonometry
Problems in bearings
Geometric terms
The circle
Vectors
Practice Mental Maths !!
PHYSICS
Mechanics
Work and power
Energy
Potential and kinetic
Input and output energy
Pressure - solid liquids and atmospheric
Principles of Hydraulics
Gears and cogs
Linear motion equations
Gradient
Distance time graph - Velocity time graphs
Force and momentum
Resultant force
Newton's Law
Forces
Mass, weight and density
Vectors and scalars
Center of gravity (moments and balance)
The turning effect of forces
The law of moments: levers
Parallel forces in equilibrium
Couples
Principles of gyros
Principles of piston and turbo jet engines
The Otto cycle (engines)
(You must be familiar with both Imperial and Metric units and be able to convert one to the other)
Sound
Longitudinal waves
Sound waves
Stationary waves
Optics
Sources and reflectors of light
Magnification
Reflection Laws
Refraction
Convex and concave
Magnifying glass
Dispersion
Heat
Heat and temperature
Internal energy
Temp scales: including Kelvin and converting temperature from one scale to another
Heating and cooling curves
Melting
Boiling
Evaporation
Gas pressure
Pressure and temperature of a gas
Volume and temperature of a gas
Volume and pressure of a gas
Expansion on matter
Heat transmission: - Conduction - Convection and radiation
Boyles, Charles and the General Gas Laws
Magnetism (Ideally you should understand the following but it is not essential)
Magnets
Theory of magnetism
Magnetic fields and neutral points
Magnetic effect of current through wire - coil and solenoid
Electromagnetic
Motor effect of current through a wire
The simple D.c motor
Electromagnetic induction in a straight wire - solenoid
Transformers
The transmission of electrical power
Fields and rule
Current electricity (Ideally you should understand the following but it is not essential)
Circuit components and diagram
Electric circuits
Potential Difference
Electrical resistance
Ohms law
Series parallel and mixed circuits
Heating effect of an electric current
Electrical power
Direct current and alternating current
The live, neutral and earth wires
Circuit Breakers, fuses and switches
Principles of electric generators
General
General outline of metals and materials commonly used in aircraft
The principles of aerodynamic lift
Cloud formation and general principles of meteorology
Confidence in handling numbers and ability in mental arithmetic
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wow thats a lot
when did you e-mail him, because i e-mailed about 40 minutes ago and have not got a reply yet
i think most of this stuff is on the GCSE syllabus so i think its better to just keep revising off the bitesize website
when did you e-mail him, because i e-mailed about 40 minutes ago and have not got a reply yet
i think most of this stuff is on the GCSE syllabus so i think its better to just keep revising off the bitesize website
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i e-mailed before christmas i've been revising for ages but have forgotten what i revised first lol. i have covered most of it except parts which i feel have no relevance to flying if u know what i mean.
there is loads on this list that isn't on bitesize though just so u know.
good luck
oli
there is loads on this list that isn't on bitesize though just so u know.
good luck
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i know you havent done the assessment yet i was just asking people who have if the physics test is multiple choice
anyway i nearly got a perfect score for my memory test, which even surprised me
i only failed because i misunderstood the orientation part of the test and as i said i only failed compass by 2 marks.
i think they would have let me join OAT if i had passed my group exercises
i wonder if they will let me join (even if i fail my test) if i give them all the money as a one time payment and signed a contract to not sue them if i fail, because i think one of the reasons they have the assessment is that if the student fails they have to pay something in the region of £35,000 back
anyway i nearly got a perfect score for my memory test, which even surprised me
i only failed because i misunderstood the orientation part of the test and as i said i only failed compass by 2 marks.
i think they would have let me join OAT if i had passed my group exercises
i wonder if they will let me join (even if i fail my test) if i give them all the money as a one time payment and signed a contract to not sue them if i fail, because i think one of the reasons they have the assessment is that if the student fails they have to pay something in the region of £35,000 back
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i would like to know how much it would cost and how long it would take to go from oxford station to OAT by taxi and how far is it from the station to OAT (is it possible to get a taxi from station?)
also can you actually get a bus from the station to OAT and how long would the journey take?
also can you actually get a bus from the station to OAT and how long would the journey take?
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OAT Assessment/Skills Test: Assessment day 3rd and 4th March
Anyone taking the skills assessment at oxford on 3rd and 4th march let me know and we can hook up for a beer. Its obviously a good idea to get to know others in the group, and remember, we are all in the same boat!
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Physics and Compass test
Egrayton, a friend of mine went for assessment a couple of weeks ago. He said that the Physics paper isn't part of the Compass test, it's a separate one done by OAT and it's 15 multiple choice questions.
Oli with regards to the list provided, that's the content recommended for those who are going to start the APP course and have passed the assessment...is that correct? That's my understanding of it. I appreciate there are elements of it that will be in the assessment (I've revised most of it anyway and like you have forgotten the first things I did!).
Oli with regards to the list provided, that's the content recommended for those who are going to start the APP course and have passed the assessment...is that correct? That's my understanding of it. I appreciate there are elements of it that will be in the assessment (I've revised most of it anyway and like you have forgotten the first things I did!).
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thanks joff
i was curious about the physics test being in the compass thats why i asked
anyway can anyone answer my travel questions?
' i would like to know how much it would cost and how long it would take to go from oxford station to OAT by taxi and how far is it from the station to OAT (is it possible to get a taxi from station?)
also can you actually get a bus from the station to OAT and how long would the journey take?'
i was curious about the physics test being in the compass thats why i asked
anyway can anyone answer my travel questions?
' i would like to know how much it would cost and how long it would take to go from oxford station to OAT by taxi and how far is it from the station to OAT (is it possible to get a taxi from station?)
also can you actually get a bus from the station to OAT and how long would the journey take?'
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You can get a bus from the centre of Oxford (I think it might have been called Magdalen Street), which is about a 10 min walk from the train station. I can't remember the bus number now, but I just asked one of the other bus drivers when I was there. From memory it took about 30 mins and stopped right outside the airport.
You could get a taxi, but I think it would cost around £20.
You could ask about transport on the OAA forum, you might get a better answer from one of the current students.
You could get a taxi, but I think it would cost around £20.
You could ask about transport on the OAA forum, you might get a better answer from one of the current students.
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cheers potential
as i remember from last time i think you can get a taxi from outside the train station
unless i'm mistaken?
also i've been reading aviation related news on abtn.co.uk but can anyone else recommend any other sites regarding aviation news?
also in the maths test can anyone remember if there were any trigonometry, quadratic, pythagoras or probability questions?
as i remember from last time i think you can get a taxi from outside the train station
unless i'm mistaken?
also i've been reading aviation related news on abtn.co.uk but can anyone else recommend any other sites regarding aviation news?
also in the maths test can anyone remember if there were any trigonometry, quadratic, pythagoras or probability questions?
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From memory, the maths test is far more practical than that: i.e. Aircraft A leaves at 10:00 travelling at 175kts, Aircraft B leaves at 10:45 from the same point travelling at 235kts, what time will the cross and how far will they have travelled.
You won't be using a calculator and there is no advanced algebra. You will want to be able to do long division / multiplication / addition and subtraction.
You won't be using a calculator and there is no advanced algebra. You will want to be able to do long division / multiplication / addition and subtraction.