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Old 31st Jan 2008, 14:18
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Where the hell have they come from? I blame Beckham and his silly little wife
I think its the other way round. Though she looks like an orange pencil with a bad haircut and bubble wrap for tits....she has very cleverly turned Becks into a skirt wearing spineless wuss who just happens to be great at footy and all for her own gain as we all know she could sing to put a dog turd on the dinner table.

No your not an anomaly you sound perfect, girly at home and one of the lads down the boozer. Good luck to you and i hope you go far in this game

Cats Five

Gosh. A awful lot of this comes over as very teenage, very misogynist. There is very little here about empathy or relationships as partnerships. Sadly much of it sadly reads like a war where the two participants are trying to beat each other to a pulp.
Are you for real? We're talking flying here not agony aunt soppy rubbish. The man needed advice and he got it without all the frilly touchy feely ****e. Real answers instead of compromises.

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I hope you saved me some as im withering away here.
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GTN,

Strewth!! Can't have that. Good thing Silverjet has a generous baggage allowance. Home tomorrow...
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gone til november: Your missus sounds ace. Well done on bagging such an understanding woman

Mine would be like "dont drink too much as you're no good to me with a hangover"

Of course I always take her advice
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Old 31st Jan 2008, 15:53
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Post ATPL = life time warranty, where Women = no garentee

Hello mate, all I can do here is just mirror what all these guys before me said. I do maths tution to get money together and with a little bit of family help I fund my modular trainnings and I get only thursday nights off as a result of that tution, hence you can just imagine, for me to achive my dream it is going to take more than the average time. So I say count yourself lucky you got in, once in a life time oppertunity, you get your qualification it will stay with you for the rest of your life. Where your bird may just fly away from your arms someday, no garentee there with her.
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Old 31st Jan 2008, 20:40
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Gotta ask Smith, how come ever girl you take up with is clingy? Does something about them attract you initially? There are plenty of non-clingy women out there.
A combination of charm and good looks!! per chance?

I have just worked out that the last three or four girlfriends I have had, their father's have walked out when they were kids. They are not schemer's, quite posh and educated actually. I have put two and two together and think that they feel that they can't have another man walk out and try and get their claws in. I think I must be attracted to weak women, from now my chat up lines will consist of "are your folks still together?".

The movie "About Last Night" is a classic, when Rob Lowe says " You chicks, you get your claws in and strangle the life out of us fellah's, and when we see the light and cut and run, you call us jerks, when its really you (girls) that are the jerks". (something along those lines).
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Im moving from ireland to england in october to attend cabair (all being well in my assessment) and i have told my boyfriend about it, he seemed a little miffed at first but said nothing about it....think he thought it was a fad.

We are going out 2 and a half years, we dont live together but we will eventually.

I put it to him that i am doing the course wether he is with me or not. I hadnt mentioned it and neither had he until recently. I brought it up about a month ago and said are you going to miss me when i go away for 13 months...he said who said i wasnt coming with you.



She will be chancing her luck with you but if you tell her you are gong no matter what....i guarantee you she will change her tune.
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Well despite my earlier somewhat confident comments regarding getting the mrs in check I now have a problem....mine sat down earlier and blurted out how the new girl in her office has a bf who's a pilot and he's always chatting up some bird somewhere so that must be what im gona do. Benn over this so many times and starting to get pretty pissed with it!

Oh and thats in addition to the dent that was put in my car by some dozy bint in a fiesta on the way to work this morning!great start to a weekend!
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Chris-Squire - I hope the weekend gets better!!

Oh, and about the Carlsberg advert, I think the guys way of looking at things is better most of the time, in fact all of it!! Although as lola said - the girls that are like us still like the odd girly thing once in a while!

"once you drop the chalice, no matter how well you glue it back together, the cracks will still be underneath."
I also agree with smith completely.....you guys would do well to remember that proverb. Although i think it works both ways!
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Old 2nd Feb 2008, 10:25
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Chris squire,

My ex was always going on about "once I qualify I'll be going of with hosties yada, yada, yada". It really did my tattie in. When someone goes on about not wanting to do something, it ends up making you do it!!!!
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Come on guys ... you have to bear in mind our worries, it seems as though you get a kick out of making us stress. It's such a cliche the Pilot/Air Hostess thing.

As for the previously posted Sun article all I can say is ... that's the Sun for you ... what a load of crap! I can only just imagine what classy and intellectual Pilot/Air Hostess stories the 'Sport/'News of the World' would come up with.

But as for the original post I don't think that anyone should ever give anyone an ultimatum (unless something serious like alcohol/drugs) if there ever comes a point in a relationship that this is happening the relationship doesn't have much distance to go.

Now from a girl's point of view/experience:
My better(?) half is in the industry and we've been together for almost 8 years. When we first got together he was instructing, but has slowly got to where he wants to be in the RHS of a jet. When he told me that he had been offered a job with an ex-freight company I went through the stress of 'Oh no, now that he's got a 'proper' job i'll lose him'. Looking back I shouldn't have had so little confidence in myself. Then when he got a job for a well known airline, I had the 'Oh no he's going to be working with air hostesses' stress. He has been pretty understanding but there have been times in the past that he's got annoyed with me due to my 'stresses'.

However, the most upsetting thing that he once said to me (when discussing possibilities for flight training schools for me) was, "I don't want to be married to a pilot" It's not only females who give men ultimatums.

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Devil

"Those who mind, don't matter, and those who matter, don't mind"

It's a strange thing but many women married to airline captains, medical specialists - anyone with strange working arrangements and substantial income to compensate- are never backward in coming forward to collect the rewards but spend the rest of their time whining more than the turbines in a 400.

Kick her to the kerb mate


(PS I am a female )
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Old 2nd Feb 2008, 13:14
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It works both ways....wind the clock back 25 years and my fiance of three years says "It's college or me". As I was off to agricultural college, where the ratio of boys to girls was 10:1 he said he couldn't handle me being surrounded by all those young farmers looking for a wife like me. Plus I was going to be more highly qualified than him in our field (scuse pun) and that did something to his pride.

I chose college but it took years of recriminations to break free. His ploy to make me jealous backfired when the female he chose announced she was pregnant - she was even more manipulative than him, he'd met his match.

Result, his life has been a series of disasterous marriages to more manipulative women and dead end jobs, and now he realises that all he had to do was trust me... We are still great friends, but it's too late now, I'm happily married for the last ten years to someone who doesn't do emotional blackmail. (and who is away for weeks on end with a non flying job)

Moral of the story, you can't force it, if one partner has to resort to ultimatums the relationship is already doomed. And if it's a good relationship, time apart is not a problem, in fact it makes time together all the more special.

Got no time for clingy, manipulative women or the weak "men" who give in to them.
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Old 2nd Feb 2008, 14:47
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Oveur

Your right i've got the best. How many blokes with other halves do you know that will fully knowing that you have a penchant for women with big tits will point them out for you when your out driving.

Or happily let you go to a stewardess party on your own or even expect you as a man to look at a bit of porn, leer at other women or tell you to go out on the piss with your mates even though your knackered. Or even meeting up with an old girlfriend whos's now a mate and not even raise an eyebrow.

The reason that it works for us (both ways) is TRUST......and marrying the right woman who is slightly old fashioned in her views about the male/female roles in a relationship.

Pilot chick

I had the 'Oh no he's going to be working with air hostesses' stress. He has been pretty understanding but there have been times in the past that he's got annoyed with me due to my 'stresses'.
Works both ways as i have mates who are not connected with aviation and their other halves are cabin crew and they can have as bad a reputation as pilots.

However, the most upsetting thing that he once said to me (when discussing possibilities for flight training schools for me) was, "I don't want to be married to a pilot" It's not only females who give men ultimatums.
He's let the side down and i hope you get to where you want.
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If she's not willing to be happy for you, then she's not worth spending any more time on. It's in these situations people show their true self.
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Gone till November ... thanks for your encouragement on the flying front! I know that women can be tarts just like men. BTW ... you seem to have a very tolerant other half!
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If you have something special dont throw it away! Do the training alongside it. Too many people throw all they have at this game and then end up in the poo big time! debt, no life, nothing! Flying is a mugs game and its only going to get worse! We all do it as we love it but dont let it rule you. Take it one step at a time and dont throw ANYTHING away in pursuit of it!
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Originally Posted by gone till november
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Cats Five

Are you for real? We're talking flying here not agony aunt soppy rubbish. The man needed advice and he got it without all the frilly touchy feely ****e. Real answers instead of compromises.

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I hope you saved me some as im withering away here.
But relationships are all about compromise. If one or both partners can't do it (either they simply can't do it at all which how a lot of the posters here sound, or they don't try, or they decide the benefits aren't worth the cost) the relationship is almost certainly doomed. And he did ask an Agony Aunt type question... Put it another way, if he asked a flying question in an Agony Aunt forum, would it be reasonable of me to (attempt to) give a flying answer?
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my best friend...

stopped flying because of his wife, after couple of years they get divorced...
he is back in cockpit now happier than ever
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