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Old 21st Jan 2008, 08:09
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JAA-PPL Hours at FAA school

Morning all.

I'm thinking of going to California to build up 20 hours or so more towards my PPL.

In Cali, there seem to be no JAA approved schools.

If I did 20 hours at a FAA school would they still count towards my JAA-PPL?

Has anyone ever done this?

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Check San Diego, nearly all my hours have been done in the US
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ok.

and they count yes?
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Neil,
I found this on Lasors:
An applicant for a JAR-FCL PPL(A) shall have
completed at least 45 hours flight time as a pilot of
aeroplanes or TMGs as appropriate. This must include
the training requirements specified below. A maximum
of 5 hours of these 45 hours may have been completed
in a Basic Instrument Training Device (BITD - see App
1 to JAR-FCL 1.125), Flight & Navigation Procedures
Trainer (FNPT) or a Flight Simulator. A FNPT or Flight
Simulator used for this purpose must be device
qualified and user approved

Now the way I read that means you have to do your JAR PPl at a JAR approved flight school.
If you are looking at doing your JAR CPL then why not look at doing all your flying in a foreign country, as long as you get a ICAO PPL you should be okay. I did all my PPL and hour building in the USA and never converted it, I had no problems with Ground School and CPL etc. Now I drive a B737-800 in JAR land.
The section referring to ppl and cpl is here:

The holder of a PPL(A) issued in accordance with ICAO
Annex 1 (excluding the NPPL) with at least 150 hours
flight time as a pilot, may commence an approved JAR
CPL(A) Modular Course consisting of 25 hours dual
flight instruction including 10 hours of instrument
instruction (up to 5 hours may be instrument ground
time in a BITD or a FNPT I or II or a flight simulator). At
least 5 hours of the flight instruction shall be carried out
in a complex aeroplane (certificated for the carriage of
at least four persons and have a variable pitch propeller
and retractable landing gear).

And the bit re ground school is here:
The aim of this course is to train pilots who have not yet
received the theoretical knowledge instruction during
an integrated course, to the level of theoretical
knowledge required for the ATPL(A). Applicants will be
required to complete 650 hours of ATPL theoretical
knowledge instruction at an Approved FTO within a
period of 18 months. An applicant shall be the holder of
a PPL(A) (excluding NPPL) issued in accordance with
ICAO Annex 1.

I know that is all a bit of overkill but I hope it helps.
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Frank.

That is very helpful thank you.

Well done for getting on the B737-800!!!

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First, congrats Frank!!

Anyways, I'm in a similar position to NSN.
Due to a combination of bad weather, lack of instructors, being messed about by a few people and my flying school going bust, I'm way behind schedule on my PPL and I'm looking to build up a few hours somewhere with slightly more reliable weather.

I've only got a few days holidays left at work (therefore can't be away for too long) and really don't want to have to cram in the whole PPL curriculum in to 3 weeks. I just want to just fly as many hours abroad as possible.

I imagine I'd need all the Visas etc to do this in the States?

NSN, be good to hear how you get on!
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