Pondering my Future...
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Pondering my Future...
Hey guys, and im new so bear with me 
Right, im 16, and i have just left school, and i am going onto college to study Further Maths, Maths, Physics and either geography or computing. At GCSE level i hope to get grades into the region of A's and A*'s.
Looking over the forums there is hundreds of wannabes, which is obvious as a job in the sky is an appealing one. I know the drawbacks, the positives, and i believe a future in aviation would suit me.
As far as i know you need an fATPL, which enables one to become an First Officer, then you progress to over 1500 hours and become a Captain. To get to fATPL level you need to go to a Flight School, and the ones i know of are, FTE, OAT, EPST and CTC. Currently i like the look and success of FTE, and OAT with its brilliant course. Any other FTO's out there?
This is all i know guys, and i would love some input into helping me decide where to go, where to apply to, and such like.
The more random the information the better!
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Thanks a million,
Chris.
Right, im 16, and i have just left school, and i am going onto college to study Further Maths, Maths, Physics and either geography or computing. At GCSE level i hope to get grades into the region of A's and A*'s.
Looking over the forums there is hundreds of wannabes, which is obvious as a job in the sky is an appealing one. I know the drawbacks, the positives, and i believe a future in aviation would suit me.
As far as i know you need an fATPL, which enables one to become an First Officer, then you progress to over 1500 hours and become a Captain. To get to fATPL level you need to go to a Flight School, and the ones i know of are, FTE, OAT, EPST and CTC. Currently i like the look and success of FTE, and OAT with its brilliant course. Any other FTO's out there?
This is all i know guys, and i would love some input into helping me decide where to go, where to apply to, and such like.
The more random the information the better!
Oh and i love Facts
Thanks a million,
Chris.
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I don't live in the U.K so I can't give you specific details but I think it is a good thing you are considering doing a degree in a non-aviation field incase something happens to your medical you will have an alternative career path.
As for training why not consider doing your pilot training in Australia? If you did it here you would have your license and all your ratings within 1 & 1/2 years and I bet it would end up being cheaper than doing your training in the U.K
As for training why not consider doing your pilot training in Australia? If you did it here you would have your license and all your ratings within 1 & 1/2 years and I bet it would end up being cheaper than doing your training in the U.K
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Hey thanks TinTin,
Yeah i heard Australia was a good place to train, do you know of any schools out there?
And 5150, MultiFlight, ive heard that is a great school from word of mouth. What are your mates doing now, are they employed with an airline, and how did they find the course.
Thanks guys for this, any more
Yeah i heard Australia was a good place to train, do you know of any schools out there?
And 5150, MultiFlight, ive heard that is a great school from word of mouth. What are your mates doing now, are they employed with an airline, and how did they find the course.
Thanks guys for this, any more
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They're both in jobs, but both went down the single pilot route, before getting their first multi crew position after about a year.
I've never been to Multiflight, but have heard good things about them.
I've never been to Multiflight, but have heard good things about them.
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Hey again.
I have just got a job, and i am hoping to save money to do my PPL. Could anyone tell me about this, such as price, hours, etc as my knowledge is limited on this.
This would show my parents how much i want to be a pilot to maybe in the future put their house on a secured loan to get into a decent FTO!
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I have just got a job, and i am hoping to save money to do my PPL. Could anyone tell me about this, such as price, hours, etc as my knowledge is limited on this.
This would show my parents how much i want to be a pilot to maybe in the future put their house on a secured loan to get into a decent FTO!
Thanks,
Chris.
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It was a passing comment! Dont take it so seriously and make false judments please.
Anyway, can anyone shed any light? I am wanting to start a PPL, and have limited knowlegde, could someone tell me about this, such as hours, prices, etc. Thanks a lot.
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PS.I asked for information, and price was an example of ONE of the things which i would have liked to know. Thanks!
And they know i love flying!
Anyway, can anyone shed any light? I am wanting to start a PPL, and have limited knowlegde, could someone tell me about this, such as hours, prices, etc. Thanks a lot.
Best Regards,
Chris.
PS.I asked for information, and price was an example of ONE of the things which i would have liked to know. Thanks!
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1Mag, have you considered training in Canada? That's where i'm currently doing my training and would highly recommend it. Here in BC there's the congested airspace, challenging terrain, very variable weather and also a high quality of training...all for a lot cheaper than the UK. Currently i've got my PPL and about 35hrs solo and spent a little over 7grand. Give it some thought before you sign over a small mortgage to Cabair!
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This forum never ceases to amaze at how people stick the boot in so unnecessarily!!!
1mag1n3, good on you for coming on here and looking for a bit of extra info. I'd reccommend asking and just general browsing in the private flying section on pprune. Loads of informative threads on there for PPL related matters. I'd imagine if you're working a job while you're at college you'd be better off paying as you fly at your local flying club, the caa website has a list of FTO's approved for JAA PPL training. To give you a rough indication, the minimum hours you need for PPL license issue is 45 hours for which you'll be paying roughly anywhere between £4000-£6000 depending on school rates. All the best mate
1mag1n3, good on you for coming on here and looking for a bit of extra info. I'd reccommend asking and just general browsing in the private flying section on pprune. Loads of informative threads on there for PPL related matters. I'd imagine if you're working a job while you're at college you'd be better off paying as you fly at your local flying club, the caa website has a list of FTO's approved for JAA PPL training. To give you a rough indication, the minimum hours you need for PPL license issue is 45 hours for which you'll be paying roughly anywhere between £4000-£6000 depending on school rates. All the best mate
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Ahh, right thanks for them simple answers guys
At this moment the world is my oyster! There is so many brilliant courses all around the world it is amazing! Spain, Canada, US, Australia, New Zeland, UK, and within them there is more FTO's than you could imagine!
Canada seems like another door to be opened, could you say where your training Canadapilot (ironic name
) and i love the sounds of the challenges there as this would make the flying not just better for your future, but also for enjoyment!
And the PPL does seem to be a very likely thing to happen in the very near future, i may learn to fly before i learn to drive
Thanks for the help,
Chris.
Oh, and ill have a browse of those pages and see whats what Mixmaster
At this moment the world is my oyster! There is so many brilliant courses all around the world it is amazing! Spain, Canada, US, Australia, New Zeland, UK, and within them there is more FTO's than you could imagine!
Canada seems like another door to be opened, could you say where your training Canadapilot (ironic name
) and i love the sounds of the challenges there as this would make the flying not just better for your future, but also for enjoyment! And the PPL does seem to be a very likely thing to happen in the very near future, i may learn to fly before i learn to drive
Thanks for the help,
Chris.
Oh, and ill have a browse of those pages and see whats what Mixmaster
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In Oz, you'd probably would look at the WAAC (or what ever it's called) in Perth, WA. The radio work is similar to the UK/Europe and the weather is a lot better.
You'd come back to the UK to do the Instrument rating so plenty of time to get used to the lovely weather 'back 'home'. I believe it's done at Cranfield.
You'd come back to the UK to do the Instrument rating so plenty of time to get used to the lovely weather 'back 'home'. I believe it's done at Cranfield.
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1mag i train at Boundary Bay airport...i think it's the busiest training airport in Canada, and touches onto Vancouver airspace. Also as there's so many international students many of the local homeowners rent out rooms and include all your meals. I have a huge basement suite and don't have to budget for any bills/food etc, all for about 350 quid a month. The training cost may not differ that much from Orlando, but hey at least it's not full of Americans here! And you'll have a lot more interesting flying experiences to talk about at that first interview! You'll be flying into 2000ft landing strips high up in the mountains, and returning home through some of the busiest airspace in Canada, while along the way navigating through 10,000+ft high mountain ranges and learning those associated skills.I'm biased so you'll have to do what's best for you!
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Both Oz and Canada look rather amazing, their courses seem to be flawless. The Oz course at WAAC seems very reasonable in price, and also the accomdation is extremely good value. The Canada training also seems extremely good, the experiences would be once in a lifetime.
So far i have gathered there is more to the world than about 3 schools!
Here are the schools i have gathered so far (This is to help me as well) and their prices...so here goes! :
OAT- £75k
FTE- £65k
CTC- £65k+
Cabair- £68k
EFT- £55k
Boundry Bay- Unsure...
WAAC- £50k
MultiFlight (local) - £45k (Modular)
Hmm...what to think!!!
Looking at that list i could see the most appealing ones have to be WAAC and FTE, yet MultiFlights modular course also seems good, because of its locality.
This boggles my mind!
HELPP!
Chris.
So far i have gathered there is more to the world than about 3 schools!
Here are the schools i have gathered so far (This is to help me as well
) and their prices...so here goes! :OAT- £75k
FTE- £65k
CTC- £65k+
Cabair- £68k
EFT- £55k
Boundry Bay- Unsure...
WAAC- £50k
MultiFlight (local) - £45k (Modular)
Hmm...what to think!!!
Looking at that list i could see the most appealing ones have to be WAAC and FTE, yet MultiFlights modular course also seems good, because of its locality.
This boggles my mind!
HELPP!
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1Mag to fill in your answer for Boundary Bay, i'd say to go from zero - PPL,CPL and Multi IR you should budget about 25grand. And then once back in the UK, 3 grand for ATPLS and 10grand for converting the CPL and IR (about 4 weeks of flying).40grand for all the training would be a good estimate (plus maybe 3grand for accomm. while in Canada)
I know of one guy who trained at my school and now works for Easy, and he spent about that much.
Sorry i don't have any "Pound" sign on my ****ty Canadian laptop!!
I know of one guy who trained at my school and now works for Easy, and he spent about that much.
Sorry i don't have any "Pound" sign on my ****ty Canadian laptop!!
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Haha, dont worry about a measly pound sign but look £££££££ feel free to copy and paste these with all my english keyboards permissions.
I think i must keep my options open now as i am only 16, and i think i need to get my A-Levels to a high standard to put me one above the rest.
Hmm...
I was wondering what to do at this moment in time...
1. Get my PPL for about £5k on a sort of pay as you go basis and have no money left over for an FTO in the future,
OR
2. Save most of the money to put towards going to a decent FTO...
I know this is a simple question, but Number 1 or Number 2?
I would like your opinions on this please
Thanks in advance,
Chris.
but look £££££££ feel free to copy and paste these with all my english keyboards permissions. I think i must keep my options open now as i am only 16, and i think i need to get my A-Levels to a high standard to put me one above the rest.
Hmm...
I was wondering what to do at this moment in time...
1. Get my PPL for about £5k on a sort of pay as you go basis and have no money left over for an FTO in the future,
OR
2. Save most of the money to put towards going to a decent FTO...
I know this is a simple question, but Number 1 or Number 2?
I would like your opinions on this please
Thanks in advance,
Chris.
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If it was me 1Mag id concentrate on saving money and getting your A Levels done. The PPL will cost you less when you can commit full time to it after college. Although it may be advisable to have a few flying lessons to "get a feel" for flying, and to reconfirm this is the career you want (as patronising as that sounds!). You seem to have your head screwed on so i'm sure you can decide what's best for you, everyone's different and there's no definate path that works for everyone.
Myself, i went to Uni for a couple of years and got 40hours flying with the local university air squadron which decided it for me. I took the decision to leave Uni and work, and saved a lot of money which is what i'm haemoraging out now! Although i'll still need a loan when i'm back to convert to JAA (disgustingly expensive!).
Some may disagree, but you're still young and there's no rush. You'll be flying until you're 65 so why not get lots of money behind you and study all you can now. Believe me, it'll take the stress off later!
Myself, i went to Uni for a couple of years and got 40hours flying with the local university air squadron which decided it for me. I took the decision to leave Uni and work, and saved a lot of money which is what i'm haemoraging out now! Although i'll still need a loan when i'm back to convert to JAA (disgustingly expensive!).
Some may disagree, but you're still young and there's no rush. You'll be flying until you're 65 so why not get lots of money behind you and study all you can now. Believe me, it'll take the stress off later!