Getting established
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Getting established
Guys,
looking for some help from expirienced pilots on 737 how to get perfectly in slot at 1000ft AGL with all configuration done. How do you fly it? some say at 13nm out of ils 210kt and flaps 1. works that out? how is the influence of a strong tailwind. when do you put the gear out to get established? 2000ft AGL or earlier? What if tailwind is?
Thanks so much!
OD
looking for some help from expirienced pilots on 737 how to get perfectly in slot at 1000ft AGL with all configuration done. How do you fly it? some say at 13nm out of ils 210kt and flaps 1. works that out? how is the influence of a strong tailwind. when do you put the gear out to get established? 2000ft AGL or earlier? What if tailwind is?
Thanks so much!
OD
Joined: Aug 2005
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From: Europe
OD, it sounds easy, but it all depends on the situation.
Factors
Final approach speed
Company SOP's (when do they want you to be fully configured, mostly 1000 or 500 ft)
Wind, possible turbulence etc etc etc
Surrounding terrain
I've turned onto the localizer clean at 9 miles with ATC asking high speed (210 kts at that stage) with 40 kts headwind and was fully configured, landing checks done at 1000 ft. I've also had to take gear at 15 miles because of a stonking 25 kt tailwind and the plane actually speeding up when I wanted it to slow down.
In general, the 737 is not very good in going down and slowing down, i.e. losing energy. The speedbrake is not very helpful once you get below 220 - 210 kts. I.e. a tailwind on approach is always interesting in the 737. You can never be ashamed for being configured at 1500 ft. A lot better then a G/A due to unstability of the appch.
If in doubt, forget about the 5 secs you win and configure early!
Factors
Final approach speed
Company SOP's (when do they want you to be fully configured, mostly 1000 or 500 ft)
Wind, possible turbulence etc etc etc
Surrounding terrain
I've turned onto the localizer clean at 9 miles with ATC asking high speed (210 kts at that stage) with 40 kts headwind and was fully configured, landing checks done at 1000 ft. I've also had to take gear at 15 miles because of a stonking 25 kt tailwind and the plane actually speeding up when I wanted it to slow down.
In general, the 737 is not very good in going down and slowing down, i.e. losing energy. The speedbrake is not very helpful once you get below 220 - 210 kts. I.e. a tailwind on approach is always interesting in the 737. You can never be ashamed for being configured at 1500 ft. A lot better then a G/A due to unstability of the appch.
If in doubt, forget about the 5 secs you win and configure early!
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Joined: Feb 2004
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From: Denmark
ok so say, im getting rushed in an approach, high speed, 250kt 13nm final light tailwind, better to go above the glide and gear down with configuration and then get the glide from above?
Thanks!
OD
Thanks!
OD
