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hi all this post is particularly for ex Flight safety cadets.Do they provide Jeppesen kits for their ground studies or FSA produced books.Has anyone on a J1 visa ie the exchange visitor program become an instructor.What are the possibilities of becoming an instructor.Thanks
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what do u think about flight safety international
hello everyone
interested in flight safety internaional in florida....what do u think about this school...then convert license into jar later??
thx
interested in flight safety internaional in florida....what do u think about this school...then convert license into jar later??
thx
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If you have less than 60Hrs P1 you can get a visa to work there after finishing the training and gain about 1500Hrs. I cant remember all the details so the best thing to do is give them a call in the U.S., you will find them very helpful. Flightsafety are a quality company and I have no doubt the training you receive will be top notch.
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If you are interested in getting a FAA license then i would say go for it maybe,the training is good but it will cost you a lot more than average schools in usa and i dont really think the difference in training would be that much.Now if you think of converting later to JAA i definetely would not recommend it unless you have lots of money and time that you want to spend.The quickest and more economical way is go direct to do the JAA training in a JAA registered country,forget about the usa.
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The quickest and more economical way is go direct to do the JAA training in a JAA registered country,forget about the usa.
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as its one of the best (as i heard) so think worth investing coz heard a lot about other schools just interested in yr money n' dont really care about how u fly
but if there're other good schools but cheaper that'd answer all questions!
any suggestion plz
but if there're other good schools but cheaper that'd answer all questions!
any suggestion plz
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Flight Safety are a shadow of what they used to be. They have row after row of Piper singles and twins sitting on the ground at Vero Beach. The things never fly because they have very few students.
The courses they offer are very expensive and although I have heard the quality of training is good, it probably isn't any better than a thousand other schools. It also takes a good year to finish the training; too long! Where much of your money goes is on keeping those grounded aircraft flyable and their expensive full page magazine ads. Throw in the salary for the sales people and you end up with a pricey course.
As far as the J1 visa (which allows you to work as an instructor) goes what Flight Safety are saying about the P1 hours is BS. I am on a J1 myself and can tell you that it is possible to get the visa with quite a few hours, even a JAA FATPL. Speak to some of the following J1 schools if you want to know more.
Sierra Academy - California
Hillsborough School of Aviation - Oregon
North American Institute of Aviation - South Carolina
Ariben Aviator - Florida
Last but not least.... the topic of conversions. If you want to go the FAA route and convert to JAA later, listen to my advice. Complete the ATPL's after your PPL. Do not do them after the FAA training as this will result in a painful period where you have no income and are not able to fly. By the time conversion time comes round you will be rusty and will need more training.
The courses they offer are very expensive and although I have heard the quality of training is good, it probably isn't any better than a thousand other schools. It also takes a good year to finish the training; too long! Where much of your money goes is on keeping those grounded aircraft flyable and their expensive full page magazine ads. Throw in the salary for the sales people and you end up with a pricey course.
As far as the J1 visa (which allows you to work as an instructor) goes what Flight Safety are saying about the P1 hours is BS. I am on a J1 myself and can tell you that it is possible to get the visa with quite a few hours, even a JAA FATPL. Speak to some of the following J1 schools if you want to know more.
Sierra Academy - California
Hillsborough School of Aviation - Oregon
North American Institute of Aviation - South Carolina
Ariben Aviator - Florida
Last but not least.... the topic of conversions. If you want to go the FAA route and convert to JAA later, listen to my advice. Complete the ATPL's after your PPL. Do not do them after the FAA training as this will result in a painful period where you have no income and are not able to fly. By the time conversion time comes round you will be rusty and will need more training.
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Barcadi,
Firstly, having gone through the conversion from an ICAO CPL to a JAA CPL with ATPL theory, I can speak from experience and a number of years on have heard the stories of others having done the same route and I would have to recommend that you really think about which way to go. Personally, I'd save the money and complete all your training by the integrated method with one school that can give you a JAA license. Having done a conversion, I wish I'd just saved for another year and done it all here in Europe.
Once you obtain your FAA Commercial license and with the goal of converting to a JAA equivalent you will need to sit 14 ATPL theory exams along with of classroom work. In my case, this took about 10 months to complete as I needed to work during the time I was studying to fund the whole thing, plus I had to re-sit two of the exams. In Europe, most airlines require that you have completed the ATPL theory before you will be considered for a F/O position. Most schools will teach the ATPL syllabus in lieu of the Commercial theory.
You will also need to do 15 hours of Instrument time of which I believe 10 can be completed in an approved simulator. Once this is done, you will probably need about 5 hours of Multi time and I would say to allot yourself an additional 10 to familiarise yourself with the airspace and regulations where you will be undergoing your CPL and Multi IR skills test.
Once you pass your Instrument (10 hours x €140hr sim; 5 hours x €400 hr twin aircraft), Multi (maybe around 3 hrs x €400), and Commercial flight test (2 hours x €400) and have your ATPL theory completed (€2000 + €90 x 14 – test fees) (what is usually referred to as a Frozen ATPL) and have your JAA Class 1 Medical (€600) you will then need to complete an MCC course (€4000). These are all approximates of cost and hours required. So roughly €10 000 – which come to think of it is a lot less than I paid. Most would factor in about €15000 I think. Also factor in the time to complete all this and the cost of your accommodation and general living expenses.
I hope that is of some help.
Firstly, having gone through the conversion from an ICAO CPL to a JAA CPL with ATPL theory, I can speak from experience and a number of years on have heard the stories of others having done the same route and I would have to recommend that you really think about which way to go. Personally, I'd save the money and complete all your training by the integrated method with one school that can give you a JAA license. Having done a conversion, I wish I'd just saved for another year and done it all here in Europe.
Once you obtain your FAA Commercial license and with the goal of converting to a JAA equivalent you will need to sit 14 ATPL theory exams along with of classroom work. In my case, this took about 10 months to complete as I needed to work during the time I was studying to fund the whole thing, plus I had to re-sit two of the exams. In Europe, most airlines require that you have completed the ATPL theory before you will be considered for a F/O position. Most schools will teach the ATPL syllabus in lieu of the Commercial theory.
You will also need to do 15 hours of Instrument time of which I believe 10 can be completed in an approved simulator. Once this is done, you will probably need about 5 hours of Multi time and I would say to allot yourself an additional 10 to familiarise yourself with the airspace and regulations where you will be undergoing your CPL and Multi IR skills test.
Once you pass your Instrument (10 hours x €140hr sim; 5 hours x €400 hr twin aircraft), Multi (maybe around 3 hrs x €400), and Commercial flight test (2 hours x €400) and have your ATPL theory completed (€2000 + €90 x 14 – test fees) (what is usually referred to as a Frozen ATPL) and have your JAA Class 1 Medical (€600) you will then need to complete an MCC course (€4000). These are all approximates of cost and hours required. So roughly €10 000 – which come to think of it is a lot less than I paid. Most would factor in about €15000 I think. Also factor in the time to complete all this and the cost of your accommodation and general living expenses.
I hope that is of some help.
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Flight Safety Academy Florida
Hi I am in the final stages of my PPL in the UK after I want to go commercial. I am interested if anyone had being to train at The Flight Safety Academy Florida. If any one could give me some answers would be really grateful?
Eg Was the training of good quality ?
What are the advantages of training at Flight Safety compared to say spending 75k at Oxford Aviation Training?
Are there entry exams etc?
Most importantly did you get a job after training?
The process of getting there and length of training?
Cost?
Plus any other info?
Eg Was the training of good quality ?
What are the advantages of training at Flight Safety compared to say spending 75k at Oxford Aviation Training?
Are there entry exams etc?
Most importantly did you get a job after training?
The process of getting there and length of training?
Cost?
Plus any other info?
Probably the most important answer, albeit to a question you have not asked, is that the Flight Safety Academy is not approved to provide JAA training.
Whilst you might be considering obtaining FAA qualifications and subsequently converting to JAA, there are many, equally good and significantly cheaper, alternatives to FSI.
Whilst you might be considering obtaining FAA qualifications and subsequently converting to JAA, there are many, equally good and significantly cheaper, alternatives to FSI.
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Have you had a look at: -
http://www.aribenaviator.com/
they do FAA and JAA training in florida 10miles south of Flight Safety at St Lucie county Airport (KFPR)
Good luck in your choices
http://www.aribenaviator.com/
they do FAA and JAA training in florida 10miles south of Flight Safety at St Lucie county Airport (KFPR)
Good luck in your choices
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Hi all, what do you think of the place, any pilots done their training there and successfully found a job with a regional carrier or airline?
I'm looking at the possibility of doing my training abroad and maybe fly/live abroad also.
Cheers!
I'm looking at the possibility of doing my training abroad and maybe fly/live abroad also.
Cheers!
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Flight Safety Academy?
Hi everybody!! Very interested in the professional program This academy offers, so i would like to know if theres someone that did it or is in this Academy, it looks pretty cool and with greate instalations!
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FlightSafety Vs. PanAm Academy
Hi, I'm just looking for a good flight school to go to after I leave the Army! I plan to get my PPL before I leave the Army! My original plan was to go to MPAD, but it dosen't seem like a good program (No Instructing)! What are your opinions about FlightSafety and PanAm Academy! I would appreciate if somebody that went through either flight schools could give me some information! Thank you so much!
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I graduated from Flightsafety in 2004, great school ... all training is top notch with probably the best instructors out there. Very professional .. I wouldn't have gone anywhere else. I did me CIME there then went to get my CFI somewhere else..you can see a huge difference. You can't compare any school in the states to FlightSafety. I would go there ...
As for panam when I was there about 5-6 guys left panam and came to FlightSafety .. that says a lot to me.
As for panam when I was there about 5-6 guys left panam and came to FlightSafety .. that says a lot to me.