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Thanks for ur replies folks... I've had a look into ariben as well, it seems to be a good deal for getting heaps of multi time but I got a couple of warnings about that place. What's exactly bad about PEA, any details of what went wrong? would be greatly appreciated...
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I just wanna tell you that i am a former student of PEA,i have to say that they are really great,they have veru good cfi,they teach you well and its true that you can take J1 visa and work for them as a paid instructor until you gain your FAA ATP.This school is awsome for me,an other good thing about this school is that most of the greek guys i know who were there now fly for Olympic and Aegean,few weeks ago actually aegean hired 15 people,8 of them had both FAA and JAA licences and the other 7 only JAA,4 guys were from PEA,aegean put 5 more people on holding pool until June,i am the second of these 5,PEA student too,the third guy was a CFI for PEA!!!!!!So,for us Greeks,it worked well!!
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Phoenix: Lufthansa Beech Bonanza chrashed! One dead!
I just got the following information:
Wreckage of missing training plane found near Buckeye
11:48 AM Mountain Standard Time on Thursday, February 2, 2006
Staff and wire reports
A Maricopa County sheriff's crew has discovered the wreckage of a small plane in a remote desert area south of Buckeye. The crew was out searching for an overdue plane.
3TV
Sheriff's crews discovered the wreckage early this morning.
According to Lt. Paul Chagolla of the Maricopa County Sheriff's Department, the crashed plane is a Beechcraft Bonanza.
Lufthansa, a German airline with a pilot-training facility in Goodyear, confirmed that the plane was theirs. Only the pilot, a 22-year-old woman, was aboard, Lufthansa officials said.
The airline called the sheriff's office at 6:30 yesterday evening to report that the plane was overdue.
The sheriff's team spotted the wreckage at about 12:30 this morning. They said there was no sign that the pilot survived.
Crews waited until the sun came up to drive out to the crash site.
Wreckage of missing training plane found near Buckeye
11:48 AM Mountain Standard Time on Thursday, February 2, 2006
Staff and wire reports
A Maricopa County sheriff's crew has discovered the wreckage of a small plane in a remote desert area south of Buckeye. The crew was out searching for an overdue plane.
3TV
Sheriff's crews discovered the wreckage early this morning.
According to Lt. Paul Chagolla of the Maricopa County Sheriff's Department, the crashed plane is a Beechcraft Bonanza.
Lufthansa, a German airline with a pilot-training facility in Goodyear, confirmed that the plane was theirs. Only the pilot, a 22-year-old woman, was aboard, Lufthansa officials said.
The airline called the sheriff's office at 6:30 yesterday evening to report that the plane was overdue.
The sheriff's team spotted the wreckage at about 12:30 this morning. They said there was no sign that the pilot survived.
Crews waited until the sun came up to drive out to the crash site.
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As an ATCA graduate from the 90s, I remember those lovely yellow Bonanzas which were a joy to fly. Following is the FAA Prelim.
Condolences to all.
320Driver
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** Report created 2/3/2006 Record 1 **
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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 1563A Make/Model: BE33 Description: 33 Debonair, Bonanza (E-24)
Date: 02/01/2006 Time: 2200
Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Fatal Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Destroyed
LOCATION
City: PHOENIX State: AZ Country: US
DESCRIPTION
ACFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, WAS THE SUBJECT OF AN ALERT
NOTICE, THE ONE PERSON ON BOARD WAS FATALLY INJURED AND THE WRECKAGE WAS
LOCATED IN MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN 40 MILES SOUTHWEST OF PHOENIX, AZ
INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 1
# Crew: 1 Fat: 1 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
WEATHER: CLEAR
OTHER DATA
Departed: GOODYEAR, AZ Dep Date: Dep. Time:
Destination: BUCKEYE, AZ Flt Plan: Wx Briefing:
Last Radio Cont:
Last Clearance:
FAA FSDO: SCOTTSDALE, AZ (WP07) Entry date: 02/02/2006
Condolences to all.
320Driver
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** Report created 2/3/2006 Record 1 **
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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 1563A Make/Model: BE33 Description: 33 Debonair, Bonanza (E-24)
Date: 02/01/2006 Time: 2200
Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Fatal Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Destroyed
LOCATION
City: PHOENIX State: AZ Country: US
DESCRIPTION
ACFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, WAS THE SUBJECT OF AN ALERT
NOTICE, THE ONE PERSON ON BOARD WAS FATALLY INJURED AND THE WRECKAGE WAS
LOCATED IN MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN 40 MILES SOUTHWEST OF PHOENIX, AZ
INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 1
# Crew: 1 Fat: 1 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
WEATHER: CLEAR
OTHER DATA
Departed: GOODYEAR, AZ Dep Date: Dep. Time:
Destination: BUCKEYE, AZ Flt Plan: Wx Briefing:
Last Radio Cont:
Last Clearance:
FAA FSDO: SCOTTSDALE, AZ (WP07) Entry date: 02/02/2006
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Here is more...
... you can the what the news in PHX say about it:
http://www.azfamily.com/perl/common/...202_midday.wmv
http://www.azfamily.com/perl/common/...202_midday.wmv
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Originally Posted by KrazyKraut
Very sad news. Condolences to those affected.
Intercockpit's an excellent FTO with an excellent record.
KK
Intercockpit's an excellent FTO with an excellent record.
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I'm deeply moved and saddened by this tragedy. My condolences to her family, friends and classmates.
Most of us ATCA graduates will always remember our time at GYR as the time of our lives. For this class, however, that memory will be tainted with this terrible accident throughout their professional lives. Very sad indeed.
Most of us ATCA graduates will always remember our time at GYR as the time of our lives. For this class, however, that memory will be tainted with this terrible accident throughout their professional lives. Very sad indeed.
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Am about to solo myself soon too and this tragic accident makes me wonder... There's nothing more exciting than flying, but we shall not forget that we are guests up there and thus have to be extra-conscious at all times.
The family has my deepest sympathies on the sudden death of their daughter.
The family has my deepest sympathies on the sudden death of their daughter.
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Originally Posted by kerrinator
I've just registered on this forum, because I wanted to warn you about this school; stay well clear of them.
I started in P.E.A. about 4 years ago, and they are absolute cowboys! I left even before i finished my ppl. be very carefull about goign to this school.
I started in P.E.A. about 4 years ago, and they are absolute cowboys! I left even before i finished my ppl. be very carefull about goign to this school.
It is so easy to come on here and slag off a school without going into detail. If you have a legitimate gripe then post it. Just calling them a bunch of cowboys without facts is unhelpful and damaging.
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Originally Posted by Robert Palmer
Problems:
Very poor maintenance - have had several bad situations there.
CFI (if itīs still that Lebanese Pr**k) is a scab!!
Very poor maintenance - have had several bad situations there.
CFI (if itīs still that Lebanese Pr**k) is a scab!!
You must be a very ignorant person to have thought that the JR was the bad guy at PEA. Everyone knows its that he has nothing to do with the horrible stories that you hear about.
I know for a fact many students got screwed at PEA, like one student whose instructor was fired for leaving crumbled paper in the aircraft. That very student was at the end of his commercial course and was paired up with a dopey NEW instructor who had never flown on the Arrow before, and had never had a commercial student before. Student had a very hard time adjusting and was delayed over a month before a new instructor took over and finished the student off successfully.
Or like another student whose instructor was fired because they requested to have their current instructor continue training him through the Multi engine phase but was turned down. This resulted in some arguments with the head office that got the instructor fired, when in reality the instructor had nothing to do with it.
BUT THESE MISHAPS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CFI, BUT IN FACT WITH THAT HORRIBLE PERSON SITTING AT THE DESK NEXT TO HIM.
I wont use his name on this site but his initials are DW, and he is the one who is really running the show back there.
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NIGEYBOY
It is so easy to come on here and slag off a school without going into detail. If you have a legitimate gripe then post it. Just calling them a bunch of cowboys without facts is unhelpful and damaging.[/quote]
MY VIEWS:
This is going to be a quick one:
Damaging they
are- to their students.
Why don't you explain to me why 98% of the students in that school are foreigners???? I will tell you why; Because they can't change schools without loosing their J1 visa. Meaning that PEA have got their students grabbed by the balls. If that school was any good don't you think it would at least have a couple of American students??
A lot of students, including my self got ripped off, many times while at that school. I lost a hell of a lot of money because of them.
Ps. On my next post, Chapter 2! I will go more in detail,explaining exactly what a bunch of P S they are.
It is so easy to come on here and slag off a school without going into detail. If you have a legitimate gripe then post it. Just calling them a bunch of cowboys without facts is unhelpful and damaging.[/quote]
MY VIEWS:
This is going to be a quick one:
Damaging they
are- to their students. Why don't you explain to me why 98% of the students in that school are foreigners???? I will tell you why; Because they can't change schools without loosing their J1 visa. Meaning that PEA have got their students grabbed by the balls. If that school was any good don't you think it would at least have a couple of American students??
A lot of students, including my self got ripped off, many times while at that school. I lost a hell of a lot of money because of them.
Ps. On my next post, Chapter 2! I will go more in detail,explaining exactly what a bunch of P
S they are.
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I spent one year in pea and I am going back next month. I had a few minor problems like you would expect from any company. I think alot of the problems related to the way CFI's were treated were related to Doug White (who was an a bit of a ****), but he has gone now and the guy in his place is alot better.
The only thing I would say is that whatever you are quoted for the course, you need to add 20% at least. They will tell you 10%. This is the same anywhere you go.
They operate fairly and it is up to you the student how well you do there.
I even paid up front and you should never do that but luckily it paid off for me (getting a discount of $2000, but being made to do a stupid glass cockpit course which cost me $1000 which was a total waste)
Anyway, these moaning bastards are just bitter fools who dont know how to get along in life and think that they can sit back and let everyone else do everything for them.
The only thing I would say is that whatever you are quoted for the course, you need to add 20% at least. They will tell you 10%. This is the same anywhere you go.
They operate fairly and it is up to you the student how well you do there.
I even paid up front and you should never do that but luckily it paid off for me (getting a discount of $2000, but being made to do a stupid glass cockpit course which cost me $1000 which was a total waste)
Anyway, these moaning bastards are just bitter fools who dont know how to get along in life and think that they can sit back and let everyone else do everything for them.