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Hey guys,
Thanks alot for your replies. This school is't located in AZ. It's in Daytona Beach, FL.
The site is Pheonix East Aviation, Inc.
It just got the name Pheonix but is no where there.
Do anyone know this school and can you recommend it?
Hoping to get some replies.
Trini_Pilot
Thanks alot for your replies. This school is't located in AZ. It's in Daytona Beach, FL.
The site is Pheonix East Aviation, Inc.
It just got the name Pheonix but is no where there.
Do anyone know this school and can you recommend it?
Hoping to get some replies.
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Hi Trini,
I did my training at PEA. They have reasonnable prices but be sure that you will always have to pay more hours than what is planned in the training syllabus ( don't forget that they are here to make money....).
As far as the management the Chief Pilot is a former Saudia Pilot and is only interested in making money. The Assistant Chief pilot is an asshole, a 40 years old guy frustrated for not having an airline job.
For the CFIs it's like everywhere, you got good one and bad ones.
I would recommend you to go there if you don't have any other feedbacks from other schools. They are not better or worse than any other flight schools.
Hope this helps
I did my training at PEA. They have reasonnable prices but be sure that you will always have to pay more hours than what is planned in the training syllabus ( don't forget that they are here to make money....).
As far as the management the Chief Pilot is a former Saudia Pilot and is only interested in making money. The Assistant Chief pilot is an asshole, a 40 years old guy frustrated for not having an airline job.
For the CFIs it's like everywhere, you got good one and bad ones.
I would recommend you to go there if you don't have any other feedbacks from other schools. They are not better or worse than any other flight schools.
Hope this helps
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hi there
I have completed all my licences at PEA and really don't have many complaints. The prices are based on mimimum requirements just like any other school and I would always price over. There prices are not too bad but the planes are old but are very well maintained. They are currently building their 172's up and have several SP models R models all of which are equipped with GPS.
As far as flight instructors go there are good and bad instructors everywhere but they have no objection to you changing if you do have any problems.
My general experiences have been good and have found the majority of people friendly
Good luck in your search
I have completed all my licences at PEA and really don't have many complaints. The prices are based on mimimum requirements just like any other school and I would always price over. There prices are not too bad but the planes are old but are very well maintained. They are currently building their 172's up and have several SP models R models all of which are equipped with GPS.
As far as flight instructors go there are good and bad instructors everywhere but they have no objection to you changing if you do have any problems.
My general experiences have been good and have found the majority of people friendly
Good luck in your search
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Phoenix East Aviation
Right up front, I am an admissions officer for Phoenix East. I think "eaglejet" made some comments that need addressing. First, we really care for our students and if you come and speak to people here (Americans, Brits, whatever) I think you will find they are quite happy. That is the only way to really find out about any flight school.
The Chief Pilot is an ex 747 driver, and FAA examiner, and a very experienced aviator. He is willing to help anyone who asks for help and has arranged for many advantages for our students, like a 50 hour Part 141 Commercial Course. If he is so interested in only making money, why would he institute a course that saves our students 70 hours of flight time over any other school?
We have our own professional mechanics and several new to 2 year old 172 SP's. They are in great condition, and will remain that way.
If you have any issue here, just come and see me and I will make very sure it is taken care of. That's a personal promise, and I personally guarantee that we deliver what we promise.
As to extra hours, we sell only the minimum number of hours to get each license or rating. We know you will need more hours and we recommend up front, that you add about 15% to the price of any course or program. Any school that does not do that is misleading you. Would you rather we add a lot of extra hours that you might not need?
Wherever you choose to go, good luck. If you want an honest assessment, visit the school and talk to current students without any staff members around. That's how to find out what really goes on. Cheap shots on the internet, particualrly where people will not identify themselves, is hardly the place to look for truthful input.
The Chief Pilot is an ex 747 driver, and FAA examiner, and a very experienced aviator. He is willing to help anyone who asks for help and has arranged for many advantages for our students, like a 50 hour Part 141 Commercial Course. If he is so interested in only making money, why would he institute a course that saves our students 70 hours of flight time over any other school?
We have our own professional mechanics and several new to 2 year old 172 SP's. They are in great condition, and will remain that way.
If you have any issue here, just come and see me and I will make very sure it is taken care of. That's a personal promise, and I personally guarantee that we deliver what we promise.
As to extra hours, we sell only the minimum number of hours to get each license or rating. We know you will need more hours and we recommend up front, that you add about 15% to the price of any course or program. Any school that does not do that is misleading you. Would you rather we add a lot of extra hours that you might not need?
Wherever you choose to go, good luck. If you want an honest assessment, visit the school and talk to current students without any staff members around. That's how to find out what really goes on. Cheap shots on the internet, particualrly where people will not identify themselves, is hardly the place to look for truthful input.
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I would recommend Phoenix East!
Hi Trini Pilot
I have just recently compleated my private training at pheonix east. I have found the staff to be friendly and supportive, (I had an issue with a check pilot there and it was handled very professionally). As for the prices of courses, well of course they are going to quote the minimum requirement ,.....doesnt everyone? The school has a large number of international students (I am one) and I have found the student support there to be outstanding. Like any other training/learning envoirnment it is really up to the student to make the most of it themselves, after all we are not kids anymore. There are of course good instructors and not so good instructors, but there is no problem with changing an instructor if an issue develops, of a matter of fact it is recommended by the admissions staff in the event.
In short I have been here for three months now and find the school an excellent envoirnment to learn. If you have any other more specific questions feel free to post another question to me directly and I will be more then happy to oblige.
If you read the negative feedback posted...............well all I can say is, .................. everybody is going to get on with everybody are they?
I have just recently compleated my private training at pheonix east. I have found the staff to be friendly and supportive, (I had an issue with a check pilot there and it was handled very professionally). As for the prices of courses, well of course they are going to quote the minimum requirement ,.....doesnt everyone? The school has a large number of international students (I am one) and I have found the student support there to be outstanding. Like any other training/learning envoirnment it is really up to the student to make the most of it themselves, after all we are not kids anymore. There are of course good instructors and not so good instructors, but there is no problem with changing an instructor if an issue develops, of a matter of fact it is recommended by the admissions staff in the event.
In short I have been here for three months now and find the school an excellent envoirnment to learn. If you have any other more specific questions feel free to post another question to me directly and I will be more then happy to oblige.
If you read the negative feedback posted...............well all I can say is, .................. everybody is going to get on with everybody are they?
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Phoenix East Aviation...
Anyone have any info about it? I heard it's been running for some 30 years and that their aircrafts are OLD but well maintained... Anyone want to reinforce that?
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Hi,
I know they a resonable fleet with a few new 172sp's
But a lot of there aircraft are old but i don't agree with the
WELL maintained.You really get what you pay for with them.
There prices are higher than a lot of the other schools.
Safe flying all
mike
I know they a resonable fleet with a few new 172sp's
But a lot of there aircraft are old but i don't agree with the
WELL maintained.You really get what you pay for with them.
There prices are higher than a lot of the other schools.
Safe flying all
mike
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PEA better than rumoured?!?
I got this email from an admissions officer at PEA....
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CK, I don't know who these people are, but I have my suspicions. We have a
small "competitor" that may be making some of these posts.
Personally I don't believe anything that anyone says who is afraid to use his
name. You can adopt that philosophy or not, but I find it works.
Second, and I would really ask you to POST THIS ENTIRE EMAIL ON THE WEB SITE
FOR ME. I challenge ANYONE to find one person that will give their name, who can
say I EVER lied to them about ANYTHING . My name is Mike Kolendo and I am an
Admissions Officer at Phoenix East. I don't lie to people, and never will, to
get them to come to school. If you come and tour the school you are welcome to
walk around and talk to anyone you want. If you find someone that says I lied
to them, I will pay for your trip. I has never happened. Now, some of you with
big mouths, what will you pay to me if you can't find anyone? There's your
challenge. Does anyone have the manhood (sorry ladies) to accept the challenge,
or even give their real name?
Third, I have a little over 2,000 flight hours, have owned a Citabria 7KCAB, a
Cherokee 6 and a Pitts S1. Some years ago I flew competition aerobatics (only
in the sportsmans class.) Was I a professional pilot? No way. But I do have a
license that is over 25 years old and can probably answer a lot of questions
about flying that those making unfounded accusations can not.
It is really a shame that people put so much stock in these anonymous forums.
If you come to Phoenix East and see for yourself, you will find a nice place
that cares about its students, tries to help you every step of the way, has good
prices and MOST IMPORTANT, gets real airline jobs for its graduates. In a very
recent 90 day period we got jobs for 22 of our 50 instructors with (I think I
remember correctly) 7 different airlines.
Come and speak to students at Phoenix. Talk to those that you know are actually
going through the training. Sure, some may have a compaint or two. Find a
flight school that doesn't have any students with complaints. What you will
find is some happy people, working hard but also enjoying Daytona Beach, who are
generally very glad they chose Phoenix East Aviation.
Of course we are not perfect, but we are a bunch of people that love aviation
who are trying to support our families by offering a good education at a more
than fair price. Our students leave as friends, and return to visit often.
Read the unsolicited letter on our web site from a recent graduate; Jason
Prestigiacomo who now flies for United Express. No school lasts over 32 years
by treating people the way these accusations say they are treated.
If no one wants to challenge me, WITH A REAL NAME AND ADDRESS ONLY, don't
believe the nonsense you are reading here. Any questions? [email protected]
PLEASE POST THIS, CK. And if you want to beleive anonymous nonsense where
people don't even have the nerve to use their own names, go ahead. There's
nothing further I can do to change your mind. I made you a personal promise
that I would look after you. I can't do any more than that. In return I ask
you to put this on Pprune, or whatever it's called.
Mike Kolendo
Phoenix East Aviation
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CK, I don't know who these people are, but I have my suspicions. We have a
small "competitor" that may be making some of these posts.
Personally I don't believe anything that anyone says who is afraid to use his
name. You can adopt that philosophy or not, but I find it works.
Second, and I would really ask you to POST THIS ENTIRE EMAIL ON THE WEB SITE
FOR ME. I challenge ANYONE to find one person that will give their name, who can
say I EVER lied to them about ANYTHING . My name is Mike Kolendo and I am an
Admissions Officer at Phoenix East. I don't lie to people, and never will, to
get them to come to school. If you come and tour the school you are welcome to
walk around and talk to anyone you want. If you find someone that says I lied
to them, I will pay for your trip. I has never happened. Now, some of you with
big mouths, what will you pay to me if you can't find anyone? There's your
challenge. Does anyone have the manhood (sorry ladies) to accept the challenge,
or even give their real name?
Third, I have a little over 2,000 flight hours, have owned a Citabria 7KCAB, a
Cherokee 6 and a Pitts S1. Some years ago I flew competition aerobatics (only
in the sportsmans class.) Was I a professional pilot? No way. But I do have a
license that is over 25 years old and can probably answer a lot of questions
about flying that those making unfounded accusations can not.
It is really a shame that people put so much stock in these anonymous forums.
If you come to Phoenix East and see for yourself, you will find a nice place
that cares about its students, tries to help you every step of the way, has good
prices and MOST IMPORTANT, gets real airline jobs for its graduates. In a very
recent 90 day period we got jobs for 22 of our 50 instructors with (I think I
remember correctly) 7 different airlines.
Come and speak to students at Phoenix. Talk to those that you know are actually
going through the training. Sure, some may have a compaint or two. Find a
flight school that doesn't have any students with complaints. What you will
find is some happy people, working hard but also enjoying Daytona Beach, who are
generally very glad they chose Phoenix East Aviation.
Of course we are not perfect, but we are a bunch of people that love aviation
who are trying to support our families by offering a good education at a more
than fair price. Our students leave as friends, and return to visit often.
Read the unsolicited letter on our web site from a recent graduate; Jason
Prestigiacomo who now flies for United Express. No school lasts over 32 years
by treating people the way these accusations say they are treated.
If no one wants to challenge me, WITH A REAL NAME AND ADDRESS ONLY, don't
believe the nonsense you are reading here. Any questions? [email protected]
PLEASE POST THIS, CK. And if you want to beleive anonymous nonsense where
people don't even have the nerve to use their own names, go ahead. There's
nothing further I can do to change your mind. I made you a personal promise
that I would look after you. I can't do any more than that. In return I ask
you to put this on Pprune, or whatever it's called.
Mike Kolendo
Phoenix East Aviation
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Easy tiger......!!
Think about your options and the questions you want to ask, and then write them all into one post.
And check your Private Messages
Farrell
Think about your options and the questions you want to ask, and then write them all into one post.
And check your Private Messages
Farrell
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Phoenix East credit courses
Have anyone attended in Phoenix East Flight training school in daytona, Florida? I read about it that they would give the credit courses that we took toward a bachelor degree ( credits that is transferable to some university). Is it true though?
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Hours building Phoenix Arizona
Hi,
Just getting towards the end of my PPL(A) and looking to build some hours.
A mate of mine is willing to come along for the ride and share some costs (accommodation etc) and he really wants to go to Phoenix, Arizona. No idea why there in particular... Looks like a good place to fly around though, presumably could go up to the Grand Canyon and possibly across to Vegas too?
Anyhow, I'd love to hear from anyone who's done this or something close and any suggestions of places to rent from. I have had a little search but didn't come up with a fat lot.
Just editing to add another thought. It's cheaper to fly from UK to Las Vegas. Is it worth looking to rent from somewhere in Vegas and fly to Phoenix and around?
Cheers...
Just getting towards the end of my PPL(A) and looking to build some hours.
A mate of mine is willing to come along for the ride and share some costs (accommodation etc) and he really wants to go to Phoenix, Arizona. No idea why there in particular... Looks like a good place to fly around though, presumably could go up to the Grand Canyon and possibly across to Vegas too?
Anyhow, I'd love to hear from anyone who's done this or something close and any suggestions of places to rent from. I have had a little search but didn't come up with a fat lot.
Just editing to add another thought. It's cheaper to fly from UK to Las Vegas. Is it worth looking to rent from somewhere in Vegas and fly to Phoenix and around?
Cheers...
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I did 100hrs at Chandler AZ, just south of Phoenix. Used Chandler Air Services where I got a piper warrior for $64. Plenty of places to visit when there, i.e Las Vegas, Tuscon, San Diego, Los Angeles and even New Mexico. I went in the summer when it is unbelievably hot but thats when its the cheapest for accommodation. Any questions just PM me.
Why do it if it's not fun?
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I also did around 100 hours at Chandler Air Services - not the cheapest around, but IMHO the best, especially if you want to do any hour-building on tail-draggers (which I highly recommend). Bear in mind that all my information might be 4 years out of date.
As for Grand Canyon, do what I did and land at Grand Canyon airport, then walk across the airport to get into a tourist helicoptor across the canyon because they are allowed to go places you're not. There are a couple of GA lanes across the top of the canyon, though, and with hindsight I should have flown across the canyon too.
Another good day trip is Tucson (land, watch everything from F18s to A320s land too, get a follow-me to guide you to your parking space and then give you a ride to the executive terminal - all for the grand price of nothing, then get a cab to the Air and Space Museum), or Sedona (get in touch with a company called Pink Jeep Tours for a great day out - they'll pick you up from the airport).
For longer trips, try Las Vegas (I flew into North Las Vegas airport, which was fine, but with hindsight I wish I'd flown into the international airport), or Los Angeles as llesson says.
FFF
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As for Grand Canyon, do what I did and land at Grand Canyon airport, then walk across the airport to get into a tourist helicoptor across the canyon because they are allowed to go places you're not. There are a couple of GA lanes across the top of the canyon, though, and with hindsight I should have flown across the canyon too.
Another good day trip is Tucson (land, watch everything from F18s to A320s land too, get a follow-me to guide you to your parking space and then give you a ride to the executive terminal - all for the grand price of nothing, then get a cab to the Air and Space Museum), or Sedona (get in touch with a company called Pink Jeep Tours for a great day out - they'll pick you up from the airport).
For longer trips, try Las Vegas (I flew into North Las Vegas airport, which was fine, but with hindsight I wish I'd flown into the international airport), or Los Angeles as llesson says.
FFF
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Chandler Air Services were fantastic - good aircraft rates and very helpful, friendly staff. Good range of aircraft - from what I remember Warriors, Archers, Arrows, Cub plus Great Lakes and Pitts if you want to do any aero's.
Some great flying around that area too! Probably best to go between Jan and April for the best weather before it gets too hot in June/July/Aug and a bit rainy Aug/Sept.
I stayed in Mesa/Chandler and was pretty cheap - sorry cant remember names of anywhere though.
Some great flying around that area too! Probably best to go between Jan and April for the best weather before it gets too hot in June/July/Aug and a bit rainy Aug/Sept.
I stayed in Mesa/Chandler and was pretty cheap - sorry cant remember names of anywhere though.
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Phoenix East Aviation in Daytona Beach, FL
I know this has probably been covered before, but as you all know the old threads aren't accessible at the moment 
I'm looking for information about this school in Florida. They seem to offer quite interesting rates and employment opportunities as an instructor (J-1 visa). www.pea.com
Could anybody give their experiences with that school?
thanx
I'm looking for information about this school in Florida. They seem to offer quite interesting rates and employment opportunities as an instructor (J-1 visa). www.pea.com
Could anybody give their experiences with that school?
thanx
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no way
I've just registered on this forum, because I wanted to warn you about this school; stay well clear of them.
I started in P.E.A. about 4 years ago, and they are absolute cowboys! I left even before i finished my ppl. be very carefull about goign to this school.
I started in P.E.A. about 4 years ago, and they are absolute cowboys! I left even before i finished my ppl. be very carefull about goign to this school.
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If PEA is no good try Flyaviator-
Have you had a look at: -
http://www.aribenaviator.com/
They do FAA and JAA training in florida at St Lucie county Airport (KFPR)
Good luck in your choice
http://www.aribenaviator.com/
They do FAA and JAA training in florida at St Lucie county Airport (KFPR)
Good luck in your choice