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Wizzair / Storm Aviation
Does anyone know the details for the Storm deal with Wizzair? I know that Wizz were recruiting back end of last year for guys with time on type so I'm guessing this may be more for the summer season - possibly a chance to turn a profit whilst getting extra crew members.
It looks similar to Astraeus in that it's more a self funded type rating with the "possibility" of a short term contract to build hours.
Would be very interested to know the hours offered in the contracts and also if they will take on low hours type rated guys
Thanks
It looks similar to Astraeus in that it's more a self funded type rating with the "possibility" of a short term contract to build hours.
Would be very interested to know the hours offered in the contracts and also if they will take on low hours type rated guys
Thanks
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Hi,
What I know is a scheme of selfsponsored type rating with 300 hr line trainnig. You can apply online. 1500 hrs total time required, and must pass an assessment.
What I know is a scheme of selfsponsored type rating with 300 hr line trainnig. You can apply online. 1500 hrs total time required, and must pass an assessment.
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Originally Posted by Yebo
Hi,
What I know is a scheme of selfsponsored type rating with 300 hr line trainnig. You can apply online. 1500 hrs total time required, and must pass an assessment.
What I know is a scheme of selfsponsored type rating with 300 hr line trainnig. You can apply online. 1500 hrs total time required, and must pass an assessment.
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Sure they will be happy, you're pouring cash into their pockets!!! 
Btw, last year these guys were turning down type rated people with hundreds and thousands hours on the bus; they preferred to keep it cheap and hire willing-to-pay pilots. Now, up to you, but I would like too see them grounded for lack of crews!
Btw, last year these guys were turning down type rated people with hundreds and thousands hours on the bus; they preferred to keep it cheap and hire willing-to-pay pilots. Now, up to you, but I would like too see them grounded for lack of crews!
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Your dead right, and seems that things are not changing. 2 good friends type rated and hours on type, turned down, and yet 1 other I have spoken to NOT type rated and no tp or jet hours is accepted. Yes he has got to pay for that type rating and seems is bonded for the additional line training.
Your dead right, and seems that things are not changing. 2 good friends type rated and hours on type, turned down, and yet 1 other I have spoken to NOT type rated and no tp or jet hours is accepted. Yes he has got to pay for that type rating and seems is bonded for the additional line training.
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Slightly off topic, but not too much.
I have applied to Wizz and was invited for an interview in BUD a couple of years ago.
B737 Capt, 8000TT, (Currently skipper with UK LoCo), requested BUD base.
I said OK I'll come over, but just tell me what pay am I to expect?
Reply: "sorry we can't devulge that information". Naturally never went, but just curious as to what they pay their skippers, as the original ad was in Flight Int, so I figured they must be expecting to pay Western rates!
mmmmmmmmmmoist
I have applied to Wizz and was invited for an interview in BUD a couple of years ago.
B737 Capt, 8000TT, (Currently skipper with UK LoCo), requested BUD base.
I said OK I'll come over, but just tell me what pay am I to expect?
Reply: "sorry we can't devulge that information". Naturally never went, but just curious as to what they pay their skippers, as the original ad was in Flight Int, so I figured they must be expecting to pay Western rates!
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Originally Posted by Gufo
Sure they will be happy, you're pouring cash into their pockets!!!
Btw, last year these guys were turning down type rated people with hundreds and thousands hours on the bus; they preferred to keep it cheap and hire willing-to-pay pilots. Now, up to you, but I would like too see them grounded for lack of crews!
Btw, last year these guys were turning down type rated people with hundreds and thousands hours on the bus; they preferred to keep it cheap and hire willing-to-pay pilots. Now, up to you, but I would like too see them grounded for lack of crews!
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Hello All
I must admit that I do NOT want to see wizz air go out of business like a320rider.
I think that Wizz air is exploiting the employment situation, just like many other employers, they can do this only because of the number of Pilots willing to pay out loads more money. If Pilots stop doing this and see how counter productive this is short term and long term, then you take the wind out of the sails.
I wonder though ! Where Wizz Air got this idea of requirement for pilots to type rate with Storm ? So who then is the real bady in all of this ?
Thoughts and ideas please !
Mr Wonka
I must admit that I do NOT want to see wizz air go out of business like a320rider.
I think that Wizz air is exploiting the employment situation, just like many other employers, they can do this only because of the number of Pilots willing to pay out loads more money. If Pilots stop doing this and see how counter productive this is short term and long term, then you take the wind out of the sails.
I wonder though ! Where Wizz Air got this idea of requirement for pilots to type rate with Storm ? So who then is the real bady in all of this ?
Thoughts and ideas please !
Mr Wonka
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Paying for a TR and even hours is not the way it's supposed to be. But I think paying for basic flighttraining is very little less wrong. But where does it stop?
I was a 170h guy who paid the TR with Storm and flew 500h with Wizz after this. I had a great time and I think it was great value for money. During my period in Wizz I was given full time accommodation, transport and an allowance for food. Not such a bad deal I think.
I am now flying for a well known UK operator. When looking back I think I have done well.
I was a 170h guy who paid the TR with Storm and flew 500h with Wizz after this. I had a great time and I think it was great value for money. During my period in Wizz I was given full time accommodation, transport and an allowance for food. Not such a bad deal I think.
I am now flying for a well known UK operator. When looking back I think I have done well.
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I don't post very often but I feel I need to warn a few of you here.
Yes pindakass.
That was long time ago. now you stay for 300 hours.
There is absolutely no guarantee of a contract at the end of it.
If you're lucky to get it you'll be taking home no more than £12000 a year after tax including sector due to near 40% tax you have to pay.
And if you think 300 hours will land you a nice job here in the UK , think again!
THE MARKET FOR AIRBUS PILOTS IN THE UK IS HEAVILY OVERSATURATED AT THE MOMENT!
EASY WILL NOT EVEN LOOK AT YOU IF YOU HAVE LESS THAN 500H!
TO ALL OF YOU WHO CONSIDER TYPE RATING ON AIRBUS
MY ADVICE IS DON'T DO IT!
If you think I exagerate contact all the operators of A320 in the UK and find out for yourselves what their recruitment plans are for the rest of this year.
And no I don't have A320 rating , I fly boeings.
I've come across a few guys recently ( 1 of them going buncrupt!)
And I hate to more of you going the same path.
Yes pindakass.
That was long time ago. now you stay for 300 hours.
There is absolutely no guarantee of a contract at the end of it.
If you're lucky to get it you'll be taking home no more than £12000 a year after tax including sector due to near 40% tax you have to pay.
And if you think 300 hours will land you a nice job here in the UK , think again!
THE MARKET FOR AIRBUS PILOTS IN THE UK IS HEAVILY OVERSATURATED AT THE MOMENT!
EASY WILL NOT EVEN LOOK AT YOU IF YOU HAVE LESS THAN 500H!
TO ALL OF YOU WHO CONSIDER TYPE RATING ON AIRBUS
MY ADVICE IS DON'T DO IT!
If you think I exagerate contact all the operators of A320 in the UK and find out for yourselves what their recruitment plans are for the rest of this year.
And no I don't have A320 rating , I fly boeings.
I've come across a few guys recently ( 1 of them going buncrupt!)
And I hate to more of you going the same path.
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Hi PB,
Indeed its 300h nowadays.
Everyone so far got offered a contract with Wizz after completing their 300/500h.
I must say it would be much easier to find a job with 500h as opposed to only 300h. But note that for contract work you'll need at least 1500TT or even more. So 500h is definitely NOT a free ticket towards any A320 job!
The salary ín Wizz when you finish your hours would be around 3500 euros before taxes. You can choose where to pay your taxes. Not such a bad salary I'd think. Enough to survive while building your hours......
Indeed its 300h nowadays.
Everyone so far got offered a contract with Wizz after completing their 300/500h.
I must say it would be much easier to find a job with 500h as opposed to only 300h. But note that for contract work you'll need at least 1500TT or even more. So 500h is definitely NOT a free ticket towards any A320 job!
The salary ín Wizz when you finish your hours would be around 3500 euros before taxes. You can choose where to pay your taxes. Not such a bad salary I'd think. Enough to survive while building your hours......
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Yes they are and all the way to the bank.
This must cover the type rating and line training at this price.I hear they are snowed under with applications too, some people
Oh well best of luck to you all.
WW
This must cover the type rating and line training at this price.I hear they are snowed under with applications too, some people
Oh well best of luck to you all.
WW
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Storm Aviation self fund
First of all let me say that I dont want to start an argument here about paying for this kind of thing. But Storm are listing a self funded type rating on the 757 or the 737 (not sure of the operator)for just under 30K with this you get 300 hours on type also. But then on the same page they are advertising for proper f/o slots and they want a minimum (as almost always) of 500 hours on type. Surely for that price they could let you fly for free for them for another 200 hours to at least set you on your way with 500 hours.
My point is how can these guys serriously ask for this kind of money knowing that basicaly you will still have a hard time getting a job in the real world unless you get another 200 hours. My guess is they know you will want these hours and they will offer them to you for yet more money. Hey if you can afford it good luck to you.
My point is how can these guys serriously ask for this kind of money knowing that basicaly you will still have a hard time getting a job in the real world unless you get another 200 hours. My guess is they know you will want these hours and they will offer them to you for yet more money. Hey if you can afford it good luck to you.
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My point is how can these guys serriously ask for this kind of money knowing that basicaly you will still have a hard time getting a job in the real world unless you get another 200 hours
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I got a job offer on a "big jet" and I am NOT type rated.The offer includes training at my own cost, then I will be paid to fly the jet.
if I had paid my own type rating, and a company asks me now to fly in a different aircraft, it means I will have to pay for a second t/rating.
so the best is to have a job promess, or a contract before to fork money in a type rating.
so keep your money, if you have some left!
if I had paid my own type rating, and a company asks me now to fly in a different aircraft, it means I will have to pay for a second t/rating.
so the best is to have a job promess, or a contract before to fork money in a type rating.
so keep your money, if you have some left!