Licence Conversion to JAA
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FAA to JAA
Hello,
does someone know what are the requirements for converting FAA to JAA ATP?
If I would have a A320 Type rating and 500h on Type on my FAA ATP (total of 3500h), what kind of practical ckecks I would have to do (cpl skill test, IR ...???). Is it possible just to make a skill check on A320 to get the JAA ATP? The 14 exams are already done. Thanks in advance...Jens
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does someone know what are the requirements for converting FAA to JAA ATP?
If I would have a A320 Type rating and 500h on Type on my FAA ATP (total of 3500h), what kind of practical ckecks I would have to do (cpl skill test, IR ...???). Is it possible just to make a skill check on A320 to get the JAA ATP? The 14 exams are already done. Thanks in advance...Jens
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Can I self-study JAA ATPLs from overseas?
Hi guys
Im currently working on my CPL (in New Zealand), and my plan is to convert it to a JAA (f)ATPL on completion.
Given that I have my head in the books at the moment, does anyone know if its possible to sit the JAA ATPLs, or some of them, right now also?
Obviously that would involve a certain degree of self-study, even if I could just travel to sit the exams.
So, can anyone tell me if it is an absolute requirement that I must attend an approved school for an ATPL course, or can I just apply for the exams?
Thanks,
FF.
Im currently working on my CPL (in New Zealand), and my plan is to convert it to a JAA (f)ATPL on completion.
Given that I have my head in the books at the moment, does anyone know if its possible to sit the JAA ATPLs, or some of them, right now also?
Obviously that would involve a certain degree of self-study, even if I could just travel to sit the exams.
So, can anyone tell me if it is an absolute requirement that I must attend an approved school for an ATPL course, or can I just apply for the exams?
Thanks,
FF.
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You have to attend the course.
Somebody else from NZ did the two course units (self study) back to back, came over, did the two X 2 weeks back to back, took the exams and exited stage left with the results slips.
h-r
Somebody else from NZ did the two course units (self study) back to back, came over, did the two X 2 weeks back to back, took the exams and exited stage left with the results slips.
h-r
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Most fun location for JAA conversion
G'day
Given that a conversion from ICAO CPL to JAA ATPL is going to take a certain amount of time, where in the world is the nicest location that it can be done at?
And Im talking beaches, warm weather, beers and hot chicks
Any suggestions ?!
Given that a conversion from ICAO CPL to JAA ATPL is going to take a certain amount of time, where in the world is the nicest location that it can be done at?
And Im talking beaches, warm weather, beers and hot chicks
Any suggestions ?!
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convert nz licence to uk or norway
I am from NZ and currently doing my flight training here, I am planning to finish at the end of the year with my ppl\cpl\ifr\atpl\multi, I would then like to move to europe, maybe the uk, france or norway, has anyone done anything simular that could give me some advice\info on license conversions etc? is it possible? how much? how long?
thanx
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Okay guys can someone please help me out. I was born and grew up in Northern Ireland. I have spent all of my adult life in the USA where I am currently employed as a pilot for JetBlue Airways. To date I have over 8000 hours TT and am type rated in the CRJ, D328, B737 and A320. I am about to upgrade to the E190 which weights in at > 100,000s . Someday I would like to come back home to fly but I am confused about the requirements for converting my FAA ATP to the JAR equivalent. If I log 1500s PIC in the E190 do I have to do my flight handling examine in this particular model aircraft. I have about 2000 hrs SIC flying the A320, can I do my examine in this. Can I use a level D Simulator. Any insight by anyone in the know will be very much appreciated.
PPRuNe Handmaiden
If you intend to get a UK JAA ATPL upon your return then you only need to sit 2 exams (Air Law and Human Performance - or whatever it's called this week). You'll need to do an CAA observed LPC in whatever machine you have the 1500 hours on. (Although, that detail needs to be checked - either way, it's still a CAA observed LPC).
The only guys I know who had to do the CAA observed check ride did it in the aircraft that they had the command time in. B737, so I'd advise a long and detailed read through LASORS.
Note! This will only permit you to fly G- reg aircraft. If you want to fly EI- reg, F-reg or CS-reg (etc) then you'll need to sit the remaining 12 exams.
The only guys I know who had to do the CAA observed check ride did it in the aircraft that they had the command time in. B737, so I'd advise a long and detailed read through LASORS.
Note! This will only permit you to fly G- reg aircraft. If you want to fly EI- reg, F-reg or CS-reg (etc) then you'll need to sit the remaining 12 exams.
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NF32, you are in a forum for baby pilots, not yet qualified to fly anything much. Redsnail (another experienced pilot) has kindly answered your question, at leats in part, but you are effectively aiming your question at the unqualified innocents in the flying community.
The forum best placed to answer your question is probably 'Questions' (natch), or perhaps 'Tech Log'. For subsequent employment, go to 'Terms and Endearments'.
Scroggs
The forum best placed to answer your question is probably 'Questions' (natch), or perhaps 'Tech Log'. For subsequent employment, go to 'Terms and Endearments'.
Scroggs
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Why's it all so complicated ?
Why, oh why is everything so complicated ? Could someone with a real insight into this please clarify a few points for me (and everyone else) ?
What is a JAA license ? If I get a UK, Italian, French, Greek, Spanish, etc... license, can I say I have a JAA license ? Any restrictions on what I can do with this license based on where it has been issued ?
Why is there so much info on UK and so little on other countries ? Could this be because I only check english websites ? Why do people say it's easier and cheaper in some countries as opposed to others ? Are there different standards ?
What part of the license do I have to do in Europe and what part am I allowed to do in another (cheaper) country (US) ?
I hold FAA ATPL and know that I have to pass 14 exams and the commercial in the same country. Then pass the IFR and Multi someplace else if I want. That gives me a frozen ATPL. Then I get a type rating to unfreeze it.
Any info would be much appreciated, recomendations on flight schools in Europe (cheap, easy, hassle free). You may answer here or PM.
A BIG THANK YOU !
SD
What is a JAA license ? If I get a UK, Italian, French, Greek, Spanish, etc... license, can I say I have a JAA license ? Any restrictions on what I can do with this license based on where it has been issued ?
Why is there so much info on UK and so little on other countries ? Could this be because I only check english websites ? Why do people say it's easier and cheaper in some countries as opposed to others ? Are there different standards ?
What part of the license do I have to do in Europe and what part am I allowed to do in another (cheaper) country (US) ?
I hold FAA ATPL and know that I have to pass 14 exams and the commercial in the same country. Then pass the IFR and Multi someplace else if I want. That gives me a frozen ATPL. Then I get a type rating to unfreeze it.
Any info would be much appreciated, recomendations on flight schools in Europe (cheap, easy, hassle free). You may answer here or PM.
A BIG THANK YOU !
SD
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ICAO-UK -JAR licence
Hi guys!
First i would like to introduce myself i`m new around and i would like to ask a couple of questions.
having got all licenses by ICAO PPL,CPL,ATP(Frozen) 200 TT what would be the following steps to convert to a UK JAR Licence ? I would have to convert all licences since PPL ? or Just the ATPL ?
thanks!!
Best regards !!
First i would like to introduce myself i`m new around and i would like to ask a couple of questions.
having got all licenses by ICAO PPL,CPL,ATP(Frozen) 200 TT what would be the following steps to convert to a UK JAR Licence ? I would have to convert all licences since PPL ? or Just the ATPL ?
thanks!!
Best regards !!
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Not wishing to sound harsh but a frozen ATPL is not a licence, it is theory credits; therefore, the only licence you need to convert is the CPL.
You would need to sit the JAA ATPL exams (and, I believe, undergo structured tuition) and have flying training sufficient that you would pass the CPL skills test.
Google for LASORS 2007 - Section D.1.5 applies.
Cheers
Whirls
You would need to sit the JAA ATPL exams (and, I believe, undergo structured tuition) and have flying training sufficient that you would pass the CPL skills test.
Google for LASORS 2007 - Section D.1.5 applies.
Cheers
Whirls
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Whirlygig is right, you have to convert your CPL and take the ATPL theory.
Bristol Flying Centre know a lot about converting
, so I am sure they can advise you about what to do.
Atlantic Flight Centre has some information on their website, and I think they have a package to convert.
The minimum cost for converting your CPL at Bristol is £1300 but that depends on how much flying you need.
I think you may be excempt from maybe a few hundred hours of study for your ATPL, but you still need to take all 14 exams
, and I am pretty sure you need structured tuition like Whirlygig said.
Good luck
Bristol Flying Centre know a lot about converting
, so I am sure they can advise you about what to do.Atlantic Flight Centre has some information on their website, and I think they have a package to convert.
The minimum cost for converting your CPL at Bristol is £1300 but that depends on how much flying you need.
I think you may be excempt from maybe a few hundred hours of study for your ATPL, but you still need to take all 14 exams
, and I am pretty sure you need structured tuition like Whirlygig said.Good luck
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Kiwi Icao Cpl me/ir to Jaa fATPL me/ir
I converted my kiwi cpl to jaa just over a year ago. You will need to do the ATPL course, Bristol ground school probably best if you can home study, I did mine full time at cabair but have friends that did Bristol and they sailed through it no probs, apart from biting their finger nails of at results time! I hear London Mets ground school is good too and its full time, but the Bristol material is A1 and done on the PC.
The flying is the most expensive bit, not just in money but in TIME. A friend on my ground school went to LFS in Leeds and did it exactly same structure as me at Cabair but he got it done in a month and I took 4 months to do 30 hours of flying! He was pretty much the only student at the time doing it, I was swallowed up in the pack and it was not a pleasant experience.
The bones of it are: 15 hours training on both the CPL and ME/IR minimum, it can be split up between sim and plane anyways the school wants based on your ability and progress i.e. 5 sim, 10 plane and this can include the actual test. It can be 6 months for the ground school and if you can in the meantime do the flight conversion also, if not then tag another month on the end. This applies if you have found a school that will focus on getting you done in the time frame they sold you on though, its your call. My friend even had a week of bad weather during his!
Another thing to think of is this: Is your Multi rating current? I had to do mine in the UK as I had done my kiwi icao me/ir test just over a year before I did the conversion test here! So had to do multi rating before my test. another expense.
Good luck with it. I went through it all then went to Africa to get work!
The flying is the most expensive bit, not just in money but in TIME. A friend on my ground school went to LFS in Leeds and did it exactly same structure as me at Cabair but he got it done in a month and I took 4 months to do 30 hours of flying! He was pretty much the only student at the time doing it, I was swallowed up in the pack and it was not a pleasant experience.
The bones of it are: 15 hours training on both the CPL and ME/IR minimum, it can be split up between sim and plane anyways the school wants based on your ability and progress i.e. 5 sim, 10 plane and this can include the actual test. It can be 6 months for the ground school and if you can in the meantime do the flight conversion also, if not then tag another month on the end. This applies if you have found a school that will focus on getting you done in the time frame they sold you on though, its your call. My friend even had a week of bad weather during his!
Another thing to think of is this: Is your Multi rating current? I had to do mine in the UK as I had done my kiwi icao me/ir test just over a year before I did the conversion test here! So had to do multi rating before my test. another expense.
Good luck with it. I went through it all then went to Africa to get work!
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Conversion of ICAO CPLto JAA ATPL
Does anyone have any ideas on how to convert an ICAO CPL to a JAA ATPL??
I've completed all 14 JAA ATPL (A) subjects, hold 7000+ hours but I've just recieved a letter from those
at the UK CAA that I need to complete an Skills test and an instrument rating? They said that conversion terms are on a like for like basis.
Can anyone enlighten me on what else I will need to do and how i would do it???
I've completed all 14 JAA ATPL (A) subjects, hold 7000+ hours but I've just recieved a letter from those
at the UK CAA that I need to complete an Skills test and an instrument rating? They said that conversion terms are on a like for like basis.Can anyone enlighten me on what else I will need to do and how i would do it???