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Hi everyone,
I'm looking at starting ATPL ground schooling full tim modular courses. Anyone got anything on Air Atlantic at Coventry or any other schools? And what the flying side of Atlanitcs training like?
Cheers
Todd
I'm looking at starting ATPL ground schooling full tim modular courses. Anyone got anything on Air Atlantic at Coventry or any other schools? And what the flying side of Atlanitcs training like?
Cheers
Todd
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It's called Atlantic Flight Training http://www.flyaft.com
I can vouch for the quality of AFT's flight training; CPL now done on DiamondStar DA40 TDi, ME/IR done on DA42 TwinStar, both equipped with EFIS, FADEC, autopilot, Diesel engines, etc. Very nice fleet. Also a DA42 TwinStar FNPT II for IR. Good airport for CPL & IR with a choice of instrument procedures on site (IR skill test done out of Cranfield). Great instructors, good setup and facilities, good value for money, v. good pass rates. They will soon have a CRJ sim for the MCC.
Can't really say anything about the ATPL groundschool; did mine elsewhere.
I recommend you pay them a visit; that's the best way to make up your mind.
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I can vouch for the quality of AFT's flight training; CPL now done on DiamondStar DA40 TDi, ME/IR done on DA42 TwinStar, both equipped with EFIS, FADEC, autopilot, Diesel engines, etc. Very nice fleet. Also a DA42 TwinStar FNPT II for IR. Good airport for CPL & IR with a choice of instrument procedures on site (IR skill test done out of Cranfield). Great instructors, good setup and facilities, good value for money, v. good pass rates. They will soon have a CRJ sim for the MCC.
Can't really say anything about the ATPL groundschool; did mine elsewhere.
I recommend you pay them a visit; that's the best way to make up your mind.
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I paid em a visit when I was looking to start out on the CPL / IR and they were a bunch of arrogant a*ses, I turned around and went elsewhere and glad I did.
For groundschool BGS is the only choice if you are modular!!
For groundschool BGS is the only choice if you are modular!!
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I would also recommend you AVOID AFT, I went to see them while ago and they were as Cutoff said a bunch of arrogant....... But everyone has their own good/bad experiences!
Bristol GS is fantastic on GS, as for the flying part go and pay Wolverhampton Airport Flight Centre a visit, they too have a DA42 Twin Star, fantastic place to learn brilliant instructors and atmosphere.
If you give them a call I believe Paul is the guy to speak too.
www.hgfc.co.uk
Bristol GS is fantastic on GS, as for the flying part go and pay Wolverhampton Airport Flight Centre a visit, they too have a DA42 Twin Star, fantastic place to learn brilliant instructors and atmosphere.
If you give them a call I believe Paul is the guy to speak too.
www.hgfc.co.uk
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I had the same experience with AFT, I called them on the phone to ask about visiting for a tour around and doing my CPL/IR with them and was given the brush off! obviously they don't wan't my £20,000.
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Well just to put forward anoher view, I arranged to visit AFT last week for a quick look kround and a chat about doing my ATPLs there, and afterwards my CPL/MEIR.
They were incredibly helpful and friendly - the chief ground school instructor gave me about 45 mins of his time even though I wasn't booked to see him specifically and I got a full tour of the place. I was so impressed that I bought the full set of ATPL books (they write their own) then and there, which I wasn't planning to do.
They were incredibly helpful and friendly - the chief ground school instructor gave me about 45 mins of his time even though I wasn't booked to see him specifically and I got a full tour of the place. I was so impressed that I bought the full set of ATPL books (they write their own) then and there, which I wasn't planning to do.
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Ahh so a fair few differences in opinion i see. thanks all for the advice. I will go and see for myself as you suggest. They seemed helpful on the phone so we'll see when I get there! Any other suggestions on how and where to obtain my atpl?
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Horses for courses isn't it. Alot of my decisions came down to where could I do my CPL / IR and remain in fulltime work. I worked at Milton Keynes at the time so that naturally pointed me to Cranfield. I was a modular student so Cabair was not a good fit so I ended up doing mine at Bonus aviation and I found them very good, I would say that they are ideal for the modular student. But if you live miles away and coventry is closer then Atlantic will suit you better, both these schools get good pass rates, but I suspect (know) a good pass is linked as always to the effort you yourself put in. I would not go anywhere else than BGS for the groundschool though, but again whatever suits your needs.
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One thing to know as well is that AFT spread the 14 ATPL exams over 3 CAA exam sessions, instead of 2 as is usually done by most other GTOs. I think it's 5, 5, then 4 subjects (in 6 months). Obviously, that takes an extra sitting, but that seems to work for them.
BGS's groundschool always comes highly recommended, as does Oxford (if only for the feedback question bank
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As for CPL/IR, depending where you live, there are usually good FTOs nearby (Exeter, Bournemouth, Cranfield, Bristol, Coventry, Leeds, Oxford...) I know I saved a great deal of (accommodation) money by training at an FTO within commuting distance.
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BGS's groundschool always comes highly recommended, as does Oxford (if only for the feedback question bank
)As for CPL/IR, depending where you live, there are usually good FTOs nearby (Exeter, Bournemouth, Cranfield, Bristol, Coventry, Leeds, Oxford...) I know I saved a great deal of (accommodation) money by training at an FTO within commuting distance.
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Hi Young and hopeful,
I've got 3 weeks to go at Atlantic full time ground school and then done!!
No school is perfect, but personally I've found them very experienced at putting people through the exams, some excellent ground school instructors. The average pass rate for my intake has been around the 90-95% mark, I will be returning for my CPL and IR. It's a smaller school which is going to get MUCH bigger very soon, although the advantage of smaller, is that any problems, you can knock on the door of the owner (Matt) and speak to him anytime. The bigger schools can't offer that sort of one to one experience. This is just my personal experience, but I think that most of the current students would agree. Good luck with your training.
I've got 3 weeks to go at Atlantic full time ground school and then done!!
No school is perfect, but personally I've found them very experienced at putting people through the exams, some excellent ground school instructors. The average pass rate for my intake has been around the 90-95% mark, I will be returning for my CPL and IR. It's a smaller school which is going to get MUCH bigger very soon, although the advantage of smaller, is that any problems, you can knock on the door of the owner (Matt) and speak to him anytime. The bigger schools can't offer that sort of one to one experience. This is just my personal experience, but I think that most of the current students would agree. Good luck with your training.
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Hi,
I agree with Mondeoman, have also done my groundschool with AFT and am planning to do my CPL/MEP/IR with them too. The groundschool instructors are excellent and very approachable with a variety of different backgrounds, each having at least one specialist subject due to much experience in that area. The terms are split into three, taking exams in sets of 5, 5, then 4. It is much less intensive than some schools and gives you more time to actually learn the course than just pass the exams.
From the flying side, the fleet of aircraft is generally well maintained, with brand new DA40's and DA42 Twin-Stars being delivered regularly. The instructors are also well experienced here, with varied and respectable backgrounds. There are also two Frasca FNPTII DA42 simulators and plans for a CRJ simulator arriving this summer (unsure of exact dates) with a JOT course to follow.
AFT also have teamed up with Jeppesen to write their own training manuals, which are a lot more understandable and friendly for the student and use their considerable experience in the airline industry (Atlantic Airlines and Air Atlantique) in writing the books. They are also in the middle of a large operation to move to bigger purpose-built premises on Coventry Airport.
I have always been impressed with AFT since I first visited when I was thinking about the ATPL, and would happily reccommend them to anyone. Personally, I was less than impressed with Oxford when I visited as I found them rude and lacking in interest for the individual student. AFT as a result of being that bit smaller have the advantage of being more friendly and understanding for the individual and are better equipped to tailor a course to your timescale and needs.
Although trying to remain unbiased, I find it difficult as I have never been less than impressed with AFT and am honest enough to admit I am a difficult person to please!
Would definately reccommend to anyone thinking about the ATPL, CPL or even PPL.
CVT Pilot.
I agree with Mondeoman, have also done my groundschool with AFT and am planning to do my CPL/MEP/IR with them too. The groundschool instructors are excellent and very approachable with a variety of different backgrounds, each having at least one specialist subject due to much experience in that area. The terms are split into three, taking exams in sets of 5, 5, then 4. It is much less intensive than some schools and gives you more time to actually learn the course than just pass the exams.
From the flying side, the fleet of aircraft is generally well maintained, with brand new DA40's and DA42 Twin-Stars being delivered regularly. The instructors are also well experienced here, with varied and respectable backgrounds. There are also two Frasca FNPTII DA42 simulators and plans for a CRJ simulator arriving this summer (unsure of exact dates) with a JOT course to follow.
AFT also have teamed up with Jeppesen to write their own training manuals, which are a lot more understandable and friendly for the student and use their considerable experience in the airline industry (Atlantic Airlines and Air Atlantique) in writing the books. They are also in the middle of a large operation to move to bigger purpose-built premises on Coventry Airport.
I have always been impressed with AFT since I first visited when I was thinking about the ATPL, and would happily reccommend them to anyone. Personally, I was less than impressed with Oxford when I visited as I found them rude and lacking in interest for the individual student. AFT as a result of being that bit smaller have the advantage of being more friendly and understanding for the individual and are better equipped to tailor a course to your timescale and needs.
Although trying to remain unbiased, I find it difficult as I have never been less than impressed with AFT and am honest enough to admit I am a difficult person to please!
Would definately reccommend to anyone thinking about the ATPL, CPL or even PPL.
CVT Pilot.
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thanks for that, i was beginning to think it all bad news. I rang oxford and they seemed less that helpful really. First impressions count and it wasnt a good one. Bristol were very nice on the phone but really I'm looking for a full time course which I'm finding harder to track down. Oh and at AFT a ppl instructor (Neil Highland) was very helpful and genuine and I had a go in thier new Diamond flight sim too! excellent.
cheers again
Todd
cheers again
Todd
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I have searched this forum for Atlantic Flight Training(http://www.flyaft.com/), but can not find any thread. I am thinking about to do the Zero to ATPL training there, but I would like some feedback from anyone who have attended or just someone who has something to say about it, or if there is any other school to prefer 
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Originally Posted by Mozz
I have searched this forum for Atlantic Flight Training(http://www.flyaft.com/), but can not find any thread.
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Originally Posted by FougaMagister
You haven't looked hard enough. There have been several threads regarding AFT recently.
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