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change my mind
I really think you skould read all the books once or twice again instead of cheating with the exam questions. I read all the books three times and didn't touch the questions. It's more honest to read the books, man.
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"It's more honest to read the books.......?" - Is this guy for real?? Does the CAA/JAA - whoever really care if you're 'honest' about studying and not doing the feedback for the exams......I don't think so. They're not as honest when charging an arm and a leg for the exams (but thats besides the point). Without taking a personal dig at you - I think we know exactly how 'honest' YOU, I or ANYONE ELSE on this (or any other forum) will be when doing the exams. Bottom line - everyone will do whatever they can to get away with as much as they can - if if using feedback is 'getting away with it' then my naive friend good luck to you.
Now if you're talking about understanding the matter - then that's a different story.
Now if you're talking about understanding the matter - then that's a different story.
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WILJAM Vs Bristol Feedback
Guys,
Heard a WILJAM are doing an online QB like the Bristol GS one. Has anyone had any experience with it or can recommend it. A comparison with the Bristol version would be nice.
Cheers guys.
RB
Heard a WILJAM are doing an online QB like the Bristol GS one. Has anyone had any experience with it or can recommend it. A comparison with the Bristol version would be nice.
Cheers guys.
RB
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HI
I used Wiljam for a resit, costs about a fiver a month, and in my p of f resit, i had seen all the questions before on Wiljam. I didnt register at bristol cos of the cost, about 50 quid i think. If you want a comparison i would say you get what you pay for.
All you get with with wiljam is access to an atpl questionbank, but woulld say having flicked through the other subjects the question bank covergage was excellent, but so is bristols. Wiljams questions are all in PDF format.
I have been told though, that with the fee to bristol, you also get access to a forum where you can post questions answers etc, so in that respect bristol is much better, because with wiljam your on your own. (but is is only a fiver or six quid a month)
I did read after i posted on another thread though, that WILJAM is no longer running, but i dont know. If if is still running though and you intend to use for a few months, i would pay the extra to bristol just to get access to the forum because you wont save that much going to wiljam.
I used Wiljam for a resit, costs about a fiver a month, and in my p of f resit, i had seen all the questions before on Wiljam. I didnt register at bristol cos of the cost, about 50 quid i think. If you want a comparison i would say you get what you pay for.
All you get with with wiljam is access to an atpl questionbank, but woulld say having flicked through the other subjects the question bank covergage was excellent, but so is bristols. Wiljams questions are all in PDF format.
I have been told though, that with the fee to bristol, you also get access to a forum where you can post questions answers etc, so in that respect bristol is much better, because with wiljam your on your own. (but is is only a fiver or six quid a month)
I did read after i posted on another thread though, that WILJAM is no longer running, but i dont know. If if is still running though and you intend to use for a few months, i would pay the extra to bristol just to get access to the forum because you wont save that much going to wiljam.
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...with Bristol you have access to their forum WITHOUT paying for the feedback database.
Since a lot of topics there are posted with full quoting of the question, it will help you A LOT...
Otherwise, the database is exellent there, almost all heavy questions have notes helping you with the solution.
They made me pass my ATPL exam in germany, worst 90%, best 100%.
Definitley worth the money.
Regards
Cole
Since a lot of topics there are posted with full quoting of the question, it will help you A LOT...
Otherwise, the database is exellent there, almost all heavy questions have notes helping you with the solution.
They made me pass my ATPL exam in germany, worst 90%, best 100%.
Definitley worth the money.
Regards
Cole
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Bristol Ground School
I'm about 30 hours into my ppl and trying to decide where to study for my atpls, Bristol GS is top of the list at the minute, anybody got any feedback about the place?
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Is there really any better place than BGS. I have recently begun my course with them and quite simply I'm already impressed. It's a practical, "meat and no fat" course that has been carefully planned. Unlike the horrendous Oxford course which seems to be the usual over the top approach by Oxford.
I give a firm thumbs up.
I give a firm thumbs up.
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Try a search. Try the Wannabes Forum too - Professional training. I was at BGS in 2004 and a friend is currently on his brush up this week. They are top notch - 'nuff said.
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Originally Posted by knik99
I just finished all 14 at bristol.gs, and all i can say, they are excellent!
No doubt, best place to do it distance learning!
No doubt, best place to do it distance learning!
You'll often read such superlatives on pprune, and whether they be regarding ATPL theory, CPL or IR training, the same caveat would apply to them all.
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Bristol GS = painless, well organised, no fuss, effective and value for money. These things are evident without have the experience of other schools.
That's not to say the other schools any different. I will say however say this, at Gatwick it was apparent during the inevitible exam post mortems that the BGS crowd had the edge on preparedness. Mind you that was 18 months ago.
That's not to say the other schools any different. I will say however say this, at Gatwick it was apparent during the inevitible exam post mortems that the BGS crowd had the edge on preparedness. Mind you that was 18 months ago.
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I do have the choice to go residential but it would be usefull to keep working (I only work a hand full of hours a week leaving time to study)
so bristol was looking a good option. The only problem being I'm worried I may not be able to motivate myself enough for distance learning. Is it really that bad?????
so bristol was looking a good option. The only problem being I'm worried I may not be able to motivate myself enough for distance learning. Is it really that bad?????
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During a period of naiviety back in 2005 I attempted to sign up for Oxford's Distance Learning. I thought I'd quite simply pick the closest place to me and though Oxford may not have been the best how far off the top could they be I thought. How wrong I was to be so complacent! Oxford made everything so much harder and I'm just talking about applying for the course. When I went down to visit them they had the usual "we're Oxford and we're doing YOU a big favour" air about themselves. Upon phoning them to join the course I was asked whether I had sent in the application form which I didn't realise you had to do and when I finally got hold of one it had quite of number of pages 
The information they wanted was excessive to say the least and coupled with other factors I gave up with them. I also looked inot AFT distance learning and they were also very polite, helpful, and genuinely had a course they wanted to teach rather impose themselves like Oxford. On each occassion the chaps over at Coventry's AFT were on the ball but they lacked just one thing a portable form of revision i.e. a CD-ROM (so that I can revise last night's study whilst at work the next day so the boss doesn't realise 
). I recently contacted BGS and what I got was "we need an address and credit card number", wow What a breath of fresh air, when I contacted them again with regards to some technical support regarding their CD-ROM they were on the case from the start and got me on my way.
So yes I can say I've spoken to some providers and though it still comes down to personal preference and also circumstance I feel Bristol reflect the way a growing number of students feel. By this I mean a more practical, less patronising and understanding of their students' needs type of approach. Aviation in the UK has an unrealistic tendency to parallel the military "money no object" attitude but in reality many students have real concerns regarding time, resource, money and the expectation to attain their qualifications.
Whoops! Looks like my rant went on a bit too long
The information they wanted was excessive to say the least and coupled with other factors I gave up with them. I also looked inot AFT distance learning and they were also very polite, helpful, and genuinely had a course they wanted to teach rather impose themselves like Oxford. On each occassion the chaps over at Coventry's AFT were on the ball but they lacked just one thing a portable form of revision i.e. a CD-ROM (so that I can revise last night's study whilst at work the next day so the boss doesn't realise ). I recently contacted BGS and what I got was "we need an address and credit card number", wow What a breath of fresh air, when I contacted them again with regards to some technical support regarding their CD-ROM they were on the case from the start and got me on my way. So yes I can say I've spoken to some providers and though it still comes down to personal preference and also circumstance I feel Bristol reflect the way a growing number of students feel. By this I mean a more practical, less patronising and understanding of their students' needs type of approach. Aviation in the UK has an unrealistic tendency to parallel the military "money no object" attitude but in reality many students have real concerns regarding time, resource, money and the expectation to attain their qualifications.
Whoops! Looks like my rant went on a bit too long
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