Aptitude tests & Pilapt - Merged
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Hi,
I am trying the countdown test and boy oh boy, does it do my head in!!!
Has anyone done this test for real. What I want to know is what is the time gaps between each number in the actual test used by training organisations? I am finding the 3 second gap too much. I need at least 5 seconds before I can make any head way!
Man after passing my IR and CPL and ground exams first time, I didn't know that what you actually need to beable to get a job as a pilot is to be able to subtract numbers very quickerly.
I am trying the countdown test and boy oh boy, does it do my head in!!!
Has anyone done this test for real. What I want to know is what is the time gaps between each number in the actual test used by training organisations? I am finding the 3 second gap too much. I need at least 5 seconds before I can make any head way! Man after passing my IR and CPL and ground exams first time, I didn't know that what you actually need to beable to get a job as a pilot is to be able to subtract numbers very quickerly.
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I've never done the test. But perhaps practise subtracting a certain number untimed first. Like starting at 900 an subtracting 7 continually in your head. When you get used to the sequence try another number. Then do it timed.
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From: Brighton
Skills Test- Oxford and Cabair
Hello all!
I've recently applied to OAT and Cabair for integrated training (hope to start August/September 2007 after my degree). In August I did the skills assesment at Cabair, and then hoped to do OAT a few days later... The Cabair test was a little bit of a disaster, I passed the Physics and Maths, but upon PILAPT--- oops! Pattern recognition was ok, as was a few others... but my overall score was 'Low' at a 3... In particular... the little aeroplane flying through the hoops was a grand ZERO. Taking this into account, and also being told that the Oxford one was going to be harder- I postponed the Oxford until Christmas.
I've re-applied to try again for Cabair at Christmas too.
So... In light of my previous failures, does anyone have any advice on what I can do to best prepare myself for future tests? I was told to do flight-sim on my PC with joystick.. and this is coming along ok.
I was told somewhere that you either have the skills or you don't. I want to ignore that, I really do!
Thankyou all,
Daisy x x x
I've recently applied to OAT and Cabair for integrated training (hope to start August/September 2007 after my degree). In August I did the skills assesment at Cabair, and then hoped to do OAT a few days later... The Cabair test was a little bit of a disaster, I passed the Physics and Maths, but upon PILAPT--- oops! Pattern recognition was ok, as was a few others... but my overall score was 'Low' at a 3... In particular... the little aeroplane flying through the hoops was a grand ZERO. Taking this into account, and also being told that the Oxford one was going to be harder- I postponed the Oxford until Christmas.
I've re-applied to try again for Cabair at Christmas too.
So... In light of my previous failures, does anyone have any advice on what I can do to best prepare myself for future tests? I was told to do flight-sim on my PC with joystick.. and this is coming along ok.
I was told somewhere that you either have the skills or you don't. I want to ignore that, I really do!
Thankyou all,
Daisy x x x
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Isn't COMPASS the same as PILAPT???
hi.. can anyone tell me what's the diff between COMPASS and PILAPT? I went for the COMPASS by RSAF but the name of the software used was PILAPT.. COMPASS stands for computerised aptitude selection system right??
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From: The Sky
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From: 3rd rock from the sun
Unlimited attempts and this is the same with the pilapt-prep too. They really emulate the actual tests 
One warning:
FTE know about these tests and consequently changed the deviation indicator to suite. For example normally with their deviation indicator you have to turn into the deviation to centre the cross-hair but when i did it this was not the case. They changed it to the way cabair does it in which you had to move the joystick opposite to the direction of deviation to centre the cross-hair. Luckily cockpit web had both so i was used to both ways of doing things.
The pilapt prep and cw were no use to me during the oxford assessment. The only thing that comes remotely close is the following:
http://www.nitex.nl/projects/ipas2/a....php?lf=DIRECT
Cheers m8, but i have decided to take the modular route in and save some cash for a type rating (if needs be).
Good luck...
+Phs
One warning:
FTE know about these tests and consequently changed the deviation indicator to suite. For example normally with their deviation indicator you have to turn into the deviation to centre the cross-hair but when i did it this was not the case. They changed it to the way cabair does it in which you had to move the joystick opposite to the direction of deviation to centre the cross-hair. Luckily cockpit web had both so i was used to both ways of doing things.
The pilapt prep and cw were no use to me during the oxford assessment. The only thing that comes remotely close is the following:
http://www.nitex.nl/projects/ipas2/a....php?lf=DIRECT
BTW good to hear of your success at the FTOs
Good luck...
+Phs
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From: BRISTOL!
I have both...
Cockpitweb is by far the best i found, its the most expensive too. But the deviation is good, but as said, they keep chaning the deviation tests, unless deviation tests are done randomly from reverse and normal axis tests because i have done one of each now, but stupidly practised for the wrong one on my last attempt.
Make sure you set your joystick to the most sensative mode possible, as the FTE joystick is on steroids, its so so sensative, where as the Cabair joystick you need to rip it out the socket in some cases.
Compared to the costs of Aptitude tests and the whole flight training scheme, then £50 and £25 are pennys...
Cockpitweb is by far the best i found, its the most expensive too. But the deviation is good, but as said, they keep chaning the deviation tests, unless deviation tests are done randomly from reverse and normal axis tests because i have done one of each now, but stupidly practised for the wrong one on my last attempt.
Make sure you set your joystick to the most sensative mode possible, as the FTE joystick is on steroids, its so so sensative, where as the Cabair joystick you need to rip it out the socket in some cases.
Compared to the costs of Aptitude tests and the whole flight training scheme, then £50 and £25 are pennys...
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cheers for the info guys! I will definatly get at least one. So it is fairly unanimous that cockpit web is better? They seem like some of the tests are different whil some are similar. I have done the IPAS one and got just below 5000 (all goods, no excellents 
, but no satisfactories)
I know it is probably illeagle but could myself and a freind split the cost, one of us buys it and passes the program to the other?
, but no satisfactories)I know it is probably illeagle but could myself and a freind split the cost, one of us buys it and passes the program to the other?
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cockpitweb scores compared to actual results
Greetings fellows!
For those of you who have taken the actual Aptitude tests; how did your scores compare with those gained on the cockpitweb pgm.? I'm particularly interested in the Cabair tests. What 'levels' are most similar to the tests carried out at Cabair?
Also whats the order and weighing of the tests at Cabair?
Basicly I'd like to know how I'd do based on the results from the Cockpitweb pgm.
At the moment I'm getting:
Suitcase - 100% @ 18.8 sec.
Hands - 100% @ 9.9 Sec.
Friend or Foe - 100% @ 21.4 Sec.
Subtraction - 100% (15/15) @ 128.2 Sec.
Radar Screen - 4/10 (difficult level) (I'll have to work on that one!)
Basket - 50.3 on 3rd go
Moving Cross - 61 @ level 2 on 3rd go
Cross Bar - 93 @ level 2 on 3rd go
Frames - 19/21 @ level 2 on 3rd go
Shapes - 100%
Numbers - 100% (10/10)
Shapes & Numbers - < It's getting late
>
Thanks guys.
Awaiting you replys,
CY
For those of you who have taken the actual Aptitude tests; how did your scores compare with those gained on the cockpitweb pgm.? I'm particularly interested in the Cabair tests. What 'levels' are most similar to the tests carried out at Cabair?
Also whats the order and weighing of the tests at Cabair?
Basicly I'd like to know how I'd do based on the results from the Cockpitweb pgm.
At the moment I'm getting:
Suitcase - 100% @ 18.8 sec.
Hands - 100% @ 9.9 Sec.
Friend or Foe - 100% @ 21.4 Sec.
Subtraction - 100% (15/15) @ 128.2 Sec.
Radar Screen - 4/10 (difficult level) (I'll have to work on that one!)
Basket - 50.3 on 3rd go
Moving Cross - 61 @ level 2 on 3rd go
Cross Bar - 93 @ level 2 on 3rd go
Frames - 19/21 @ level 2 on 3rd go
Shapes - 100%
Numbers - 100% (10/10)
Shapes & Numbers - < It's getting late
>Thanks guys.
Awaiting you replys,
CY
Last edited by early_bird; 28th March 2007 at 23:58.
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I've done the CTC pilapt test and it wasn't too bad. I think sometimes nerves and trying too hard can mess you up though. I aced it but nerves beat me up in the sim ride.
Never mind, I didn't rack up a huge debt to CTC and I'm flying for an airline anyway.
There is hope for those who do not pass! I'll take a 777 anyday over a little airbus!!
Happy testing
Never mind, I didn't rack up a huge debt to CTC and I'm flying for an airline anyway.
There is hope for those who do not pass! I'll take a 777 anyday over a little airbus!!
Happy testing
