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Which ATPL Ground School?

Old 15th Mar 2006, 09:47
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Residential Ground school

HI Everyone

I am going to convert my ICAO license to JAR license. I was wondering does anyone have any feed back for CATS as a Residential ground School course.
Or can anyone recommend a residential course for me. if possible would like to hear from people who have either been on a course at, CATS, Oxford, or Cabair.

Thankyou for your help
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Old 15th Mar 2006, 10:17
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I did my ICAO to JAR at BCFT in Bournemouth. Nice part of the country and as a pilot from the Southern Hemisphere, I did appreciate the milder weather too.
In regards to the exams, as you have to do all 14, it is not really a conversion.
I have also dealt with Bristol Ground School and would happily recomend them for distance learning.
PM me if you need any further info.
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Old 1st Apr 2006, 12:02
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Cool Which ATPL Ground School?

Hi Everyone

I am converting my ICAO licence to JAR. I am going to go on the residential Ground School. However I do not have any full ideas as to where to go. It is going to be Either Cabair, or Oxford.
I need somewhere to stay close to the School, as I have no Car at the moment, and do not want to spend a fortune on Accommodation. I like the sound of both Schools. If anyone can help me out with deciding on one or the other, Accommodation also I would really appreciate it thanks.

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Old 1st Apr 2006, 13:04
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Personally, I would visit both schools and then make my own mind up. All this thread will end up doing is having people going on about how their school was the best, but nobody is being objective. Why, because nobody has completed their groundschool twice at different schools. Hence it'll come down to peoples opinions.
So rather than trust a bunch of anonymous eejits, go and make up your own opinion.
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Old 1st Apr 2006, 13:23
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Try Glasgow www.gcns.ac.uk/aviation they have halls of residence right on the campus which is also in the middle of the city of Glasgow, very handy.

80 per week all in, no bills, no council tax and a free highspeed internet connection in your room. Also each room is en-suite and course is cheap. They have a new course starting at the beginning of April.
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Old 26th Apr 2006, 19:13
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Coming towards the end of my PPL course now and am now deciding where to go and do my ATPL ground studies (residential preferably). Live in the UK and have had a look around Oxford and was very impressed. Have also heard good things about other schools, so am not sure where to go now - any recommendations? anywhere to stay clear of?! Thanks
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Old 26th Apr 2006, 19:28
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I would say: Stick to Oxford (but I'm biased )

Bornmouth, Cranfield and Bristol are reasonably good.
Those are the ones that keep appearing...
I would stay away from the smaller ones

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Old 26th Apr 2006, 19:40
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Originally Posted by Dodgy Dutchman
Bornmouth, Cranfield and Bristol are reasonably good.

Reasonably good? how do you come up with that assumption? have you studied with these as well as Oxford? seems to me like a rather flippant statement considering "generally" you would only ever experience one training provider

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Old 26th Apr 2006, 20:47
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So you never read any posts about those ground schools, do you? You have to experience it first hand to be able to comment on them?

That's gonna cost you a lot of money that way.

Anyway, what has DD done to you for biting his head off?

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Old 26th Apr 2006, 21:03
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I can only comment on Bristol which is a distance learning ATPL provider.

They are amazing !

I can however comment on the number of other students I met on my trips to the CAA at Gatwick and one things seems to be commonplace....the high % of those who used Bristols Feedback !

Good luck with your studies
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Old 26th Apr 2006, 21:04
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Originally Posted by Con-Trail
So you never read any posts about those ground schools, do you? You have to experience it first hand to be able to comment on them?
Absolutely spot on, that is exactly my point, but DD made a flippant comment about the other groundschool providers to which he "probably" has never experienced, whereas the posts you read are from people who have experienced them, so your argument/gripe does not hold water.
You are reading into my post too much, I can't really see where I was bitng his head off (as you put it) but merely stating a fact

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Old 26th Apr 2006, 21:34
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Talking about experience, I'm studying at Oxford at the moment on and integrated course. I would recommend their ground school to anyone.
They publish their own course material, and are constantly updating according to changes in JAA rules etc.
In their books they have a great amount of feedback questions (Questions that people remembered after taking the JAA exams and fed them back to the instructors). This definately helps to get through the JAA's!
They use a lot of computer aided animations which helped me understanding some concepts a little bit easier.
If you want do study long distance you can actually get some cd-roms that will help you understand more about one of the 14 subjects.
The instructors are very professional and the accomodation (if you want to study on site as opposed to long-distance) is good (all air conditioned)

But by all means, do your own investigation. Most of these ground schools have a seminar that you can go to.

Hope this helps

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Old 26th Apr 2006, 21:41
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Hi there

I would also strongly recommend sitting the ground school at Oxford. The work is extremely intense and the instructors are fantastic!!! They all have their unique individual ways of getting their point across. They have fantastic teaching aids and each and every lecturer is a character!

I have visited many other FTO's and can say without a shadow of a doubt that Oxford is the best by a mile - so much so that i am currently studying there on an APP course

What ever you decide to do i wish you the very best luck!

Regards

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Old 26th Apr 2006, 22:15
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As it is a residential course you are looking at, have you thought of Glasgow www.gcns.ac.uk/aviation. Very popular place at the moments, two classes running at the moment and both full. Our class just sat Perf, Planning, R-Nav and insts in April and the class average for all tests was in high 90's.

Good thing about Glasgow is its cheap, modern halls of residence, slap bang in the middle of Glasgow a very modern bustling big city if that's what turns you on.
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Old 27th Apr 2006, 09:31
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Originally Posted by shacs13
Coming towards the end of my PPL course now and am now deciding where to go and do my ATPL ground studies (residential preferably). Live in the UK and have had a look around Oxford and was very impressed. Have also heard good things about other schools, so am not sure where to go now - any recommendations? anywhere to stay clear of?! Thanks
I am currently an Oxford student,i can strongley recommend Oxford. Great school ,Great instructors and they are exremlely well connected with all of the Airlines.It is expensive to go to Oxford but you certainly get value for money.
Oxford is very , very good if you want full time gs
Bristol gs is very, very good if distance learning is your thing
Good luck
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Old 27th Apr 2006, 10:35
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Remember budget well for a residential ground school course! I'm planning for Oxford too. The course costs 3995 and a further 1000 for exam fees / materials, then living expenses for 6-8 months and accomodation. Roughly speaking it will cost about 8k-9k residential.
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Old 27th Apr 2006, 22:31
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6000-8000 is a lot for the ATPL exams especially if you also consider when studying full time you will not be earning any money, a possible loss of earnings of maybe about 6000, costing a total of around 13000!

I am personally doing mine distance learning with Bristol (who are very good) while working full time and am due to finish my last six soon which will have taken nine months. Total cost will be about 3500 which is about 10000 less for the same result. Its not for every one but worked for me!

Have also heard good things about Oxfords distance learning package.
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Old 27th Apr 2006, 22:37
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FE,

Very much aware of that point, I'm the type of person that likes to be taught in a class room. I could push myself and do distance learning but I feel much happier with the idea of residential. It suits me better to do residential, I feel I will learn the material better than I would distance learning. Plus its a good way to meet mates and have a good laugh while learning!
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Old 27th Apr 2006, 23:00
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I'm with you WB, the 'chalk n talk' of a classroom works better for me and I gained lots of mates over the years thanks to aviation !

But there r cheaper and better ways out there. Do your home work before you jump.....but whatever you do ENJOY ! ! !
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Old 16th Aug 2006, 12:22
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ATPL ground studies

Hi, Im currently ready to go to uni and do my atpl exams but i was wondering if any1 has information about other universities besides London because I already have info about them. Cheers
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