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The foreign medical is sufficient to fly
taken from 14CFR61.75
61.75)b)4) Holds a current medical certificate issued under part 67 of this chapter or a current medical certificate issued by the country that issued the person's foreign pilot license
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Hour building no need for a medical or visa,
Night rating, CPl.... ie training you need a medical at the local usa docs, takes about an hour.
good luck
<<edit: I don't agree either - as per IBLB's message, EITHER medical is required, NOT both - even when training for new ratings or qualifications.>>
Night rating, CPl.... ie training you need a medical at the local usa docs, takes about an hour.
good luck
<<edit: I don't agree either - as per IBLB's message, EITHER medical is required, NOT both - even when training for new ratings or qualifications.>>
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Maybe it's semantics, but I don't agree with what you are saying gibr monkey
Whether or not a FAA or foreign medical is required, has nothing to do with if you are flying for training or not, but it has to do with the certificate you are using to be able to fly.
If you are coming over to the US to do a JAR-nightqualification, one of the requirements is to fly solo at night. Since you don't hold a nightqualification yet, you cannot fly based on your foreign license. Therefor you need to get a student pilot certificate, and the proper endorsements. Since now you are not flying on the foreign certificate anymore but on a US certificate, you need a FAA medical 3rd class or higher.
For training for a CPL as long as done by day, or dual at night, or solo at night when in posession of a nightqualification on the foreign certificate, you can fly on basis of your foreign certificate, and your foreign medical. However for the actual FAA CPL test, you will need a US medical, since it is one of the requirements for taking the test. If you are coming to the US to do a JAR-CPL course/exam, a US medical is not required.
As long as flying while respecting the limitations of both FAA AND foreign certificate, a foreign medical is sufficient.
Whether or not a FAA or foreign medical is required, has nothing to do with if you are flying for training or not, but it has to do with the certificate you are using to be able to fly.
If you are coming over to the US to do a JAR-nightqualification, one of the requirements is to fly solo at night. Since you don't hold a nightqualification yet, you cannot fly based on your foreign license. Therefor you need to get a student pilot certificate, and the proper endorsements. Since now you are not flying on the foreign certificate anymore but on a US certificate, you need a FAA medical 3rd class or higher.
For training for a CPL as long as done by day, or dual at night, or solo at night when in posession of a nightqualification on the foreign certificate, you can fly on basis of your foreign certificate, and your foreign medical. However for the actual FAA CPL test, you will need a US medical, since it is one of the requirements for taking the test. If you are coming to the US to do a JAR-CPL course/exam, a US medical is not required.
As long as flying while respecting the limitations of both FAA AND foreign certificate, a foreign medical is sufficient.
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You can have a valid PPL licence from one country and a valid medical from another country to fly in the US. I got my licence validated by the FAA last week to hour build with exactly this scenario (I hope this is what you're on about anyway!). you don't need a visa to hour build.
however, do send all the paperwork to oklahoma city with the address of the FDSO that you want to go to. it only takes as long as the CAA etc. want it to take. the yanks are efficient this end in fairness.
and also, the validation for, say, a 152 will mean you're allowed to fly any single engine aircraft provided you comply with check-outs, training, insurance etc. of the school. you won't be limited to stick to a 152......as I'm flying my 3rd different a/c type this week! good times!
however, do send all the paperwork to oklahoma city with the address of the FDSO that you want to go to. it only takes as long as the CAA etc. want it to take. the yanks are efficient this end in fairness.
and also, the validation for, say, a 152 will mean you're allowed to fly any single engine aircraft provided you comply with check-outs, training, insurance etc. of the school. you won't be limited to stick to a 152......as I'm flying my 3rd different a/c type this week! good times!
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Originally Posted by buggingout
You can have a valid PPL licence from one country and a valid medical from another country to fly in the US.
61.75)b)4) Holds a current medical certificate issued under part 67 of this chapter or a current medical certificate issued by the country that issued the person's foreign pilot license
Originally Posted by buggingout
and also, the validation for, say, a 152 will mean you're allowed to fly any single engine aircraft provided you comply with check-outs, training, insurance etc. of the school. you won't be limited to stick to a 152......as I'm flying my 3rd different a/c type this week! good times!
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Well that maybe the case in writing but it's not in practice (in my experience). as i said, I went along to the FSDO last week and got my foreign licence validated with a foreign medical from a different country. the form you fill out, and the FAA crtificate that was issued, clearly stated i had licence and medical from 2 different countries. no problem, no need for an FAA medical.
in regards to the ratings, i phoned the foriegn licence headquarters in oklahoma city because i assumed that i could only fly a 150 / 152 as per my ratings. when i enquired they said, and to quote (as i remember it clearly due to a pleasant surprise), "...absolutely no problem, you are authorised to fly any single engine aircraft subject to the hiring organisations checks and insurance once your licence is validated". When i spoke to them this time they weren't interested in the country of licence, it's as if it applied to everyone.
THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE OF IT.......as far as i can see the FAA make the whole deal as pain free as possible. any doubts, just contact the FAA:
http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certific..._verification/
in regards to the ratings, i phoned the foriegn licence headquarters in oklahoma city because i assumed that i could only fly a 150 / 152 as per my ratings. when i enquired they said, and to quote (as i remember it clearly due to a pleasant surprise), "...absolutely no problem, you are authorised to fly any single engine aircraft subject to the hiring organisations checks and insurance once your licence is validated". When i spoke to them this time they weren't interested in the country of licence, it's as if it applied to everyone.
THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE OF IT.......as far as i can see the FAA make the whole deal as pain free as possible. any doubts, just contact the FAA:
http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certific..._verification/
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Buggingout,
With regards to the medical; what i wrote in my previous post, is what is written down in the current 14CFR. If an FAA employee told you otherwise, make sure you get it in writing. You are always responsible for your actions at all times!
With regards to the aircraft, i feel we might be talking apples and pears here. Looking at your location (UK) and some of your previous posts, i assume you have a JAA license (correct me if i am wrong, if you don't, disregard the following)
In the JAA system, you get a category and class rating on your license (ie Single Engine Piston aircraft) This allows you to fly allmost all single engine piston aircraft. Theoretically you could buy any SEP plane, read the manual and fly it. You don't legally need any endorsements, or ratings to fly a different SEP plane. Checkouts, school/club/insurance policies have nothing to do with what you theoretically are allowed to fly. So you will also be allowed to fly any plane in the FAA system.
In other countries, the local regulations require you to have specific (flight)training before you can fly a different make/model. (I believe South-Africa is one of them, someone correct me if i am wrong) So if your FAA certificate is based on such a license, you can only fly the ones you have had your training/endorsements/authorizations for.
Same as for above, if someone told you otherwise, make sure you get it in writing, it's your butt and license on the line!!!
With regards to the medical; what i wrote in my previous post, is what is written down in the current 14CFR. If an FAA employee told you otherwise, make sure you get it in writing. You are always responsible for your actions at all times!
With regards to the aircraft, i feel we might be talking apples and pears here. Looking at your location (UK) and some of your previous posts, i assume you have a JAA license (correct me if i am wrong, if you don't, disregard the following)
In the JAA system, you get a category and class rating on your license (ie Single Engine Piston aircraft) This allows you to fly allmost all single engine piston aircraft. Theoretically you could buy any SEP plane, read the manual and fly it. You don't legally need any endorsements, or ratings to fly a different SEP plane. Checkouts, school/club/insurance policies have nothing to do with what you theoretically are allowed to fly. So you will also be allowed to fly any plane in the FAA system.
In other countries, the local regulations require you to have specific (flight)training before you can fly a different make/model. (I believe South-Africa is one of them, someone correct me if i am wrong) So if your FAA certificate is based on such a license, you can only fly the ones you have had your training/endorsements/authorizations for.
Same as for above, if someone told you otherwise, make sure you get it in writing, it's your butt and license on the line!!!
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Do I need a FAA medical to get an FAA IR?
I would be most greatful if you could clear up a confusion in my mind about
an FAA PPL certificate issued on the basis of a foreign licence, it is
unbelievable the conflicting answers I have been getting from CFIs around the place.
I have a current JAA PPL & medical. I also have an FAA PPL based on my
Irish PPL I recieved over two years ago, but I have never flown as PIC in
the USA yet. I am here in the USA now and I have just completed my BFR,
with the intention to do some hour building and obtain my FAA IR and my JAA CPL.
I realise I do not need an FAA medical to fly under FAR 61.75 but my
question is, am I required to get an FAA medical for the training and or
issuance of an FAA IR, doing my flying training on my PPL certificate
(based on my foreign licence)? Also if the answer to that question is 'yes' I do
NOT require an FAA medical, when I pass my IR check ride, will I be issued
with a full FAA PPL-IR (stand alone)
ie: nothing to do with my PPL under FAR61.75, effectively having two FAA PPL certificates?
If this is the case, am I required to obtain an FAA medical then?
I really hope someone can help me out here as I have searched
and seached the FARs, I have found some answers but I cannot find the answers to the above, or mabye I have found them, but I don't even know I have!
Appreciate the help
G747
an FAA PPL certificate issued on the basis of a foreign licence, it is
unbelievable the conflicting answers I have been getting from CFIs around the place.
I have a current JAA PPL & medical. I also have an FAA PPL based on my
Irish PPL I recieved over two years ago, but I have never flown as PIC in
the USA yet. I am here in the USA now and I have just completed my BFR,
with the intention to do some hour building and obtain my FAA IR and my JAA CPL.
I realise I do not need an FAA medical to fly under FAR 61.75 but my
question is, am I required to get an FAA medical for the training and or
issuance of an FAA IR, doing my flying training on my PPL certificate
(based on my foreign licence)? Also if the answer to that question is 'yes' I do
NOT require an FAA medical, when I pass my IR check ride, will I be issued
with a full FAA PPL-IR (stand alone)
ie: nothing to do with my PPL under FAR61.75, effectively having two FAA PPL certificates?
If this is the case, am I required to obtain an FAA medical then?
I really hope someone can help me out here as I have searched
and seached the FARs, I have found some answers but I cannot find the answers to the above, or mabye I have found them, but I don't even know I have!
Appreciate the help
G747
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Hi Genius,
I obtained an FAA IR which I added to the FAA PPL that was issued under 61.75 (based upon my JAA PPL).
You do NOT require an FAA medical to do this.
You will still have the limitation of the FAA PPL/IR being based upon the validity of your JAA PPL and JAA Medical.
To remove the limitation you will have to sit the FAA PPL Written and Checkride *or* if you have enough hours then the FAA CPL Written and Checkride. You will require at least an FAA Class 3 medical certificate to do this. Once done the validity only upon your JAA PPL and medical will dissapear.
I will try and search out the specific FARs for you, but in the mean time I do hope this helps.
I obtained an FAA IR which I added to the FAA PPL that was issued under 61.75 (based upon my JAA PPL).
You do NOT require an FAA medical to do this.
You will still have the limitation of the FAA PPL/IR being based upon the validity of your JAA PPL and JAA Medical.
To remove the limitation you will have to sit the FAA PPL Written and Checkride *or* if you have enough hours then the FAA CPL Written and Checkride. You will require at least an FAA Class 3 medical certificate to do this. Once done the validity only upon your JAA PPL and medical will dissapear.
I will try and search out the specific FARs for you, but in the mean time I do hope this helps.
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Genius
You do require a FAA medical for your FAA IR flight test. You will not be given a stand alone certificate as the Instrument is a rating and not a license so it will be added onto your FAA private which is valid only and based on your JAA PPL. It will however note on the back under the IR portion "U.S. test passed"
Hope this helps.
PS, It seems from the above post that there will still be confusion, I think it is going to depend on the DE as I did mine and required it, I also continued on to do my CFMEII and instructed foreign students there and they all required it as it was an addition of a rating.
You do require a FAA medical for your FAA IR flight test. You will not be given a stand alone certificate as the Instrument is a rating and not a license so it will be added onto your FAA private which is valid only and based on your JAA PPL. It will however note on the back under the IR portion "U.S. test passed"
Hope this helps.
PS, It seems from the above post that there will still be confusion, I think it is going to depend on the DE as I did mine and required it, I also continued on to do my CFMEII and instructed foreign students there and they all required it as it was an addition of a rating.
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When I did mine, the DE did not require the medical. Just the JAA PPL and Medical, as well as my 61.75 FAA PPL.
Although I did have an FAA medical as I was going on to obtain an FAA CPL.
Although I did have an FAA medical as I was going on to obtain an FAA CPL.
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Originally Posted by Charlie Zulu
When I did mine, the DE did not require the medical. Just the JAA PPL and Medical, as well as my 61.75 FAA PPL.
Although I did have an FAA medical as I was going on to obtain an FAA CPL.
Although I did have an FAA medical as I was going on to obtain an FAA CPL.
I agree totally with B200Drvr;
What 14CFR61.39 says is that you need a medical for the practical test. However, for training, you can fly on your foreign medical. I would even go asfar as saying that since there is no solo flying required for the instrument training, you don't need any medical at all for the instrument training, providing the instructor has a valid medical. As i posted in your other thread, if you can get someone to do something differently, make sure you get it in writing, or call the examiner beforehand, and see if he has a problem with it. Always cover yourself.
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Okay I'll admit defeat here... however even if an FAA medical is required (which it seems by reading the FARs and 61.39 doesn't omit those seeking an IR on a 61.75 FAA PPL) then I was still above board as I did have an FAA Medical as in any case I was doing the FAA CPL checkride four days after the FAA IR checkride.
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Originally Posted by Charlie Zulu
Okay I'll admit defeat here... however even if an FAA medical is required (which it seems by reading the FARs and 61.39 doesn't omit those seeking an IR on a 61.75 FAA PPL) then I was still above board as I did have an FAA Medical as in any case I was doing the FAA CPL checkride four days after the FAA IR checkride.
To be fair, i do know of IR flight tests being done with only a foreign medical/ppl based upon foreign. However, it is still my believe that it is not legal. If the examiner is happy with that, fine. If not, you have no leg to stand on.
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I dont think you have to have a FAA medical, if you read 61.65 this is the requirements for the Instrument rating, and its a rating your going for, NOT a licence.
you could always e-mail the FAA and ask, try [email protected] he has always been helpful when i asked him questions.
Hope it helps
you could always e-mail the FAA and ask, try [email protected] he has always been helpful when i asked him questions.
Hope it helps
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Originally Posted by ITFC1
I dont think you have to have a FAA medical, if you read 61.65 this is the requirements for the Instrument rating, and its a rating your going for, NOT a licence.
you could always e-mail the FAA and ask, try [email protected] he has always been helpful when i asked him questions.
Hope it helps
you could always e-mail the FAA and ask, try [email protected] he has always been helpful when i asked him questions.
Hope it helps
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Originally Posted by ITFC1
4) Hold at least a current third-class medical certificate, if a medical certificate is required.
that is from 61.39 if a medical required
that is from 61.39 if a medical required
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the more i think about it the more i agree with you, i know if you do a check ride in a sim you dont have to have a medical, not sure if the I/R can be done in a sim, i have my ATP check ride coming up, and i know i dont need a medical, i have one but its not required.
As you say if he flying in an aircraft he will be using his licence, therefore i would say he does need one. i think your right mate
As you say if he flying in an aircraft he will be using his licence, therefore i would say he does need one. i think your right mate
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Originally Posted by ITFC1
the more i think about it the more i agree with you, i know if you do a check ride in a sim you dont have to have a medical, not sure if the I/R can be done in a sim, i have my ATP check ride coming up, and i know i dont need a medical, i have one but its not required.
As you say if he flying in an aircraft he will be using his licence, therefore i would say he does need one. i think your right mate
As you say if he flying in an aircraft he will be using his licence, therefore i would say he does need one. i think your right mate
Don't you just love it, all the information about medical certificates readily available in one paragraph? <------ feel the sarcasm?
