Type Rating - ATR 42/72?
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Originally Posted by tilley
Hi, To everybody in the world, has anybody got any info on the air contractors interview have one on thursday could surely use the help
thanks
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ATR Type training...
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I want to get opinions on the various schools that offer training on the ATR.Has anyone any experience of any TRTO other than SkyBlue and the real success rate of their candidates in getting work?
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TDD
I want to get opinions on the various schools that offer training on the ATR.Has anyone any experience of any TRTO other than SkyBlue and the real success rate of their candidates in getting work?
regards
TDD
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ATR-72 type rating & costs?
hi all. just wondering if anyone here knows the cost of an ATR-42/72 type rating and the best place to do it. I see that flight safety does it in houston TX, but couldnt find a price for the course 
. does anyone know anywhere else wher you can do a type on this plane and a cost..rough estimate is cool 
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. does anyone know anywhere else wher you can do a type on this plane and a cost..rough estimate is cool .
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It is true that ATR operators quite often need pilots, but bear in mind that there are still far more type rated guys looking for a job than vacancies available !
Around myself, I have seen guys getting a job straight after the type rating, and some others still waiting for a job with their TR which has now been out of date !
Just be careful !
good luck
Around myself, I have seen guys getting a job straight after the type rating, and some others still waiting for a job with their TR which has now been out of date !
Just be careful !
good luck
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Good friend of mine did ATR type rating with Air Wales, prior to it collapsing. Unable to find work and really wishing she had done a 737 or 320 TR for what it's worth. Look at number of them flying around.
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Hi Sheikh,
You can do one with Blue Sky Aviation. Their offices are in Bristol I think, but they do the ground-school at Exeter and the sim and flying in Morlaix in Northern Brittany. Takes about 6 weeks.
Why the ATR? I heard that Vacancies were hard to come by but if you've heard otherwise, see you on the course! Air Wales ATR rated chaps took a lot of the recent slots.
You can do one with Blue Sky Aviation. Their offices are in Bristol I think, but they do the ground-school at Exeter and the sim and flying in Morlaix in Northern Brittany. Takes about 6 weeks.
Why the ATR? I heard that Vacancies were hard to come by but if you've heard otherwise, see you on the course! Air Wales ATR rated chaps took a lot of the recent slots.
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ATR Rating
I'm thinking of doing an ATR rating, Skyblue seems to be a popular TRTO. Has anyone had any experience with them, a friend did his and said all good things. I understand that you have to send a CV and cover letter, in addition, you have to do a phsychometric test and interview???.
Also, there's Flight Safety International???.
I don't want to get into a debate about SSTR's, so constructive opinions only please. P.S., I'm mid-late thirties so i need to get a move on to get that first job.
Also, there's Flight Safety International???.
I don't want to get into a debate about SSTR's, so constructive opinions only please. P.S., I'm mid-late thirties so i need to get a move on to get that first job.
Did my TR with them back in 2003 and could'nt fault them.
Good facillities , Good Instructors and Morlaix for the Sim ( In Summertime) is a nice place to go with lots of good restaurants / bars
Ps the physchometric stuff and interview is only for the 737 Rating according to their website. No-one that i know off whose done the ATR rating has had to do it.
Cheers
Good facillities , Good Instructors and Morlaix for the Sim ( In Summertime) is a nice place to go with lots of good restaurants / bars
Ps the physchometric stuff and interview is only for the 737 Rating according to their website. No-one that i know off whose done the ATR rating has had to do it.
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I would second that. Did ATR rating there in 2005 and they were first rate. However, whether going for an ATR rating now is a good idea is another question. Remember that Air Wales went under last year and that Atlantic Express are stopping the ATR operation before March, so the only 3 outfits left in the British Isles are Aer Arann (helps if you are Irish - seriously!), Air Contractors and Aurigny (helps if you are from the Channel Islands due employment preferences there).
That said, you can develop useful contacts with these outfits (and maybe others further afield) during the type rating.
Cheers
That said, you can develop useful contacts with these outfits (and maybe others further afield) during the type rating.
Cheers
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Thanks for the replies, i figured on the t/p rating as it'll give me both jet and t/p avenues(regarless of type), whereas,if i did a jet course, i'm restricting the possibility of getting a first job as t/p operators won't look at me, logical thinking???.
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That's possible. I have had several contacts (and one interview ) with jet operators since being ATR-rated. One advantage of a TP rating is that operators of this type of a/c do not always require hours on type (whereas most jet operators do).
Cheers
) with jet operators since being ATR-rated. One advantage of a TP rating is that operators of this type of a/c do not always require hours on type (whereas most jet operators do).Cheers
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Air Contractors and Aurigny (helps if you are from the Channel Islands due employment preferences there).
what you are saying is not completely right. I have a friend who used to work with Aurigny, and he told me that they have had lots of nationalities !
an Italian, an Australian, a Mexican, some French, lots of English guys, a Swedish one, and an American. He told me they had only 3 local guys..
(and for the cabin crew they have even more nationalities )
cheers!
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Let me re-phrase: I'm not saying you can't get a look in with GR if you aren't from the CI - but that faced with several applicants with comparable backgrounds (say, an ATR42/72 rating and same total hours), they would favour in descending order:
1/ CI residents
2/ "mainland" British
3/ Other
I understand it's due to CI preferential employment laws - remember the CI are NOT part of the EU, so EU equal opportunities directives etc. do not apply in GCI. Confirmed to me by a colleague who currently flies for Aurigny. Of course, they have recruited "foreigners" before (and still do), but they have to at least try to fill in positions with "locals" first...
(un peu comme a Air Tahiti apparemment
)
Cheers
1/ CI residents
2/ "mainland" British
3/ Other
I understand it's due to CI preferential employment laws - remember the CI are NOT part of the EU, so EU equal opportunities directives etc. do not apply in GCI. Confirmed to me by a colleague who currently flies for Aurigny. Of course, they have recruited "foreigners" before (and still do), but they have to at least try to fill in positions with "locals" first...
(un peu comme a Air Tahiti apparemment
)Cheers
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atr type rating
hi all, am thinking of doing an atr type rating with sky blue with possibility of getting in with either aer arann or air contractors preferably ( i have read all about sstr and dont want to get into that debate ) . has anyone any up to date info on what policy either of these airlines have in regards to taking on low hour ( 300TT) with atr rating. i am 40+ so a jet job is probably out for me at the moment. any feedback from guys just trained at skyblue also very welcome. any info greatly appreciated.
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Skyblue run an excellent course. Factor in accom and living expenses (as you will on any course). Ground school in Exeter over 9days. e.g. Arrive there Sunday for a Monday start. 5 days of CBT with weekend free for beer or study (you need to make a command decision here).
Second Monday - Tech Exam
Second Tuesday - Performance
B&B in Whimple (about 7mins drive by car) is £18 a night. I would recommend staying at "The Jays". You wont go hungry with the breakfast in the morning there. There is another one, The Busy B but food is crap and it is a bit of a walk from the pub at night. You need a car or access to a car if in Whimple. I am sure if you play stupid then Skyblue will arrange a pick up etc as more than likely the ground instructor will be traveling from there. Great pub there to help you relax at night. We used to study in the pub doing question and answer sessions.
Sim is two weeks in Morlaix using the sim at the Icare faciity. Again Morlaix is a great place with excellent restaurants and bars. Hotel is only OK (if they put you in Hotel du Port) and again they will transfer you to and from the sim as it is a 45mins walk. Bus available to get you there on days off so you can practice in the Carboard cutout.
Skybue have just installed a fix based sim there so they may have changed the course slightly to reflect this. As a result I would expect a slight reduction in the fees or maybe an extra session in the FNPT for the same price. I got a chance to look at it last weekend when I was there helping out with a command upgrade course and it is pretty impressive.
A/C training is currently with Aerocondor in Agen in France. usually takes place on a Sat or Sun.
Some problems to be aware of if you commit yourself to this course:
Your course partner. Make it known that you want someone of similar expierence to yourself and someone who is tuned in.
There may be a delay between ground school and the sim. I was waiting two weeks. It worked out well for me as it gave me time to prepare for the sim but you need to factor this in if you are taking time of work or traveling home.
There is also a possible delay in waiting for aircraft training. I was waiting a month.
Alll travel and hotac is at your expense. It can get expensive if you leave it all till the last minute, especially for aircraft training as I only got two days notice and Ryanair were expensive as a result.
Skyblue are extremely busy now as they have a contract with PIA to train a large number of crews so I would suggest you talk to them immediatly and express interest in the first available course.
There is heaps of work out there for ATR rated guys. I was sitting around for over 2months but then had three offers in as many days. It may not be exactly what you want but it will be flying. Dutch Antilles Express in the Caribbean are taking people form Skyblue.
Arann are always recruiting. They do take low hour people but I would suggest you talk to them before you commit to Skyblue. Arann are a TRTO and are currently SSTRs. Cost is the same as SkyBlue.
Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.
I have also sent you a private message so check it and get back to me if I can assist further.
rgds,
GP.
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B&B in Whimple (about 7mins drive by car) is £18 a night. I would recommend staying at "The Jays". You wont go hungry with the breakfast in the morning there. There is another one, The Busy B but food is crap and it is a bit of a walk from the pub at night. You need a car or access to a car if in Whimple. I am sure if you play stupid then Skyblue will arrange a pick up etc as more than likely the ground instructor will be traveling from there. Great pub there to help you relax at night. We used to study in the pub doing question and answer sessions.
Sim is two weeks in Morlaix using the sim at the Icare faciity. Again Morlaix is a great place with excellent restaurants and bars. Hotel is only OK (if they put you in Hotel du Port) and again they will transfer you to and from the sim as it is a 45mins walk. Bus available to get you there on days off so you can practice in the Carboard cutout.
Skybue have just installed a fix based sim there so they may have changed the course slightly to reflect this. As a result I would expect a slight reduction in the fees or maybe an extra session in the FNPT for the same price. I got a chance to look at it last weekend when I was there helping out with a command upgrade course and it is pretty impressive.
A/C training is currently with Aerocondor in Agen in France. usually takes place on a Sat or Sun.
Some problems to be aware of if you commit yourself to this course:
Your course partner. Make it known that you want someone of similar expierence to yourself and someone who is tuned in.
There may be a delay between ground school and the sim. I was waiting two weeks. It worked out well for me as it gave me time to prepare for the sim but you need to factor this in if you are taking time of work or traveling home.
There is also a possible delay in waiting for aircraft training. I was waiting a month.
Alll travel and hotac is at your expense. It can get expensive if you leave it all till the last minute, especially for aircraft training as I only got two days notice and Ryanair were expensive as a result.
Skyblue are extremely busy now as they have a contract with PIA to train a large number of crews so I would suggest you talk to them immediatly and express interest in the first available course.
There is heaps of work out there for ATR rated guys. I was sitting around for over 2months but then had three offers in as many days. It may not be exactly what you want but it will be flying. Dutch Antilles Express in the Caribbean are taking people form Skyblue.
Arann are always recruiting. They do take low hour people but I would suggest you talk to them before you commit to Skyblue. Arann are a TRTO and are currently SSTRs. Cost is the same as SkyBlue.
Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.
I have also sent you a private message so check it and get back to me if I can assist further.
rgds,
GP.