OAT vs FTE
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OAT vs FTE
It seems to me that both OAT and FTE(Jerez) are very good integrated schools. However, most people talk very highly about oxford's APP. What are people's view on the difference between an OAT graduate and a FTE graduate as far as the airlines are concerned. Is OAT's APP much better than the FTE standard integrated course or are they pretty much the same???
By the way this is NOT an integrated/modular debate or any other FTO. It is purely between FTE integrated and OAT integrated.
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Jam
By the way this is NOT an integrated/modular debate or any other FTO. It is purely between FTE integrated and OAT integrated.
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It will be very hard to get a non biast view on both schools! you will have ex Oxford students praise Oxford and ex FTE students praise FTE!
In my opinion, I would prefer FTE, mainly because I've still to read report from any former students and I like the idea of staying away from home and relaxing in the sun during days off!
In my opinion, I would prefer FTE, mainly because I've still to read report from any former students and I like the idea of staying away from home and relaxing in the sun during days off!
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Brothel? right - FTE it is then !!! - only joking!
No seriously, i am so confused out of the two and am just wondering what other people's view is. To be honest i am leaning towards FTE because i think it offers better value for money, but people don't talk about FTE as they would OAT,CTC.
or is it just me??????
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No seriously, i am so confused out of the two and am just wondering what other people's view is. To be honest i am leaning towards FTE because i think it offers better value for money, but people don't talk about FTE as they would OAT,CTC.
or is it just me??????
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I think a lot of people dont comment on FTE because they know very little about it (including myself).
From what I hear of OAT i understand that there groundschool instruction is fantastic and everyone gets good passes.
Also they seem to offer a good standard of training but can be a bit slow and unorganised when it comes to getting aircraft into the air (though I suspect this is not the case with every student - only the unlucky ones). This is probabliy due the student/aircraft ratio. They also have quite good emplynment statsitcs.
Like I said dont know much about FTE, although a friend who is considering them said they to also have very good employment statistics. Best to see if they do a seminar or something.
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From what I hear of OAT i understand that there groundschool instruction is fantastic and everyone gets good passes.
Also they seem to offer a good standard of training but can be a bit slow and unorganised when it comes to getting aircraft into the air (though I suspect this is not the case with every student - only the unlucky ones). This is probabliy due the student/aircraft ratio. They also have quite good emplynment statsitcs.
Like I said dont know much about FTE, although a friend who is considering them said they to also have very good employment statistics. Best to see if they do a seminar or something.
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Are OATs employment statistics based on an initial period after course completion? (i.e. first 6 months)
I would safely assume that almost everyone who gets a fATPL will be employed one way or another over any time period.
I would safely assume that almost everyone who gets a fATPL will be employed one way or another over any time period.
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Best port of call for info about FTE is www.henrybevan.co.uk
He has just started a Type Rating with Thomsonfly with 8 others sponsored on the course that has recently graduated from the College. He has been very frank throughout on his website about the place and it gives a real feel for the place and what it is like out there.
How do I know?....I was on the course with him. The school is the only choice as far as I am concerned and I would not change a thing. Awesome training in all areas and great place to be.
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He has just started a Type Rating with Thomsonfly with 8 others sponsored on the course that has recently graduated from the College. He has been very frank throughout on his website about the place and it gives a real feel for the place and what it is like out there.
How do I know?....I was on the course with him. The school is the only choice as far as I am concerned and I would not change a thing. Awesome training in all areas and great place to be.
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Not sure when OAT's employment stats are from, they have a table of stats on their website. They do claim to have had 150 graduates employed this year but not sure how many graduates they churn out a year. It would be intresting to see how many are not employed!!
Ive heard OAT put forward some candadites for reccomendation to airlines based upon exams scores and reports (so i hear anyway). I suspect most of them just sent off 200 CV's and get lucky.
Anyone from OAT/FTE any comments on this?
Ive heard OAT put forward some candadites for reccomendation to airlines based upon exams scores and reports (so i hear anyway). I suspect most of them just sent off 200 CV's and get lucky.
Anyone from OAT/FTE any comments on this?
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I'm ex-FTE staff and (despite having been made redundant at the time of the management buyout) I would say go there.
The experience of living and working in Spain will be good value - everyone should spend some time woring overseas at some time in their life because it DOES broaden your breadth of experiences. Although the working environment is semi-English, the rest of the area is very Spanish and as such will have a certain amount of educational value.
The cameraderie amongst the students will be excellent and the quality of instruction good, too.
The experience of living and working in Spain will be good value - everyone should spend some time woring overseas at some time in their life because it DOES broaden your breadth of experiences. Although the working environment is semi-English, the rest of the area is very Spanish and as such will have a certain amount of educational value.
The cameraderie amongst the students will be excellent and the quality of instruction good, too.
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Hi
Like Mogie(e) I am ex FTE instructor but unlike Mogie I am also ex Oxford. Having spent 4 years at each FTO they both have their pros and cons. Also they are BOTH very good schools. At the end of the day your employment chances are the same, whichever school you choose. You need to weigh up how you want to train and go to the school suits YOU.
Not much help really - only to say that whichever one you go to you are guarenteed to get excellent training.
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Like Mogie(e) I am ex FTE instructor but unlike Mogie I am also ex Oxford. Having spent 4 years at each FTO they both have their pros and cons. Also they are BOTH very good schools. At the end of the day your employment chances are the same, whichever school you choose. You need to weigh up how you want to train and go to the school suits YOU.
Not much help really - only to say that whichever one you go to you are guarenteed to get excellent training.
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FTE everytime...cheaper and i went there and got accepted into the BA ssp scheme....OAT is way to expensive when you put together all the cost of living and eating (a whopping 73-75k) .. although fte and oxford have put up there prices fte is still cheaper and better!
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Cheers guys,
the only reason why i asked was because people dont talk about FTE as they do OAT,CTC but by the sounds of it it seems that FTE is right up there with OAT
Jam
Countonme,
could you possibly expand into the pro\'s and con\'s for each school? that would help a lot
Thanks
Jam
the only reason why i asked was because people dont talk about FTE as they do OAT,CTC but by the sounds of it it seems that FTE is right up there with OAT
Jam
Countonme,
could you possibly expand into the pro\'s and con\'s for each school? that would help a lot
Thanks
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Honestly you wil very rarely get an unbiased opinion. Everyone in this thread who has said FTE is better then OAT haven't been to OAT and vice versa. As has been said BOTH are excellent schools but with slight differences over each other. Personally I am at OAT and having a great time so far. I choose OAT over FTE for a cpl of reasons. Firstly OAT get all of the groundschool out the way first, FTE split it up with the flying, I would rather it this way. Personally I don't think the cost difference is so much that it should sway you either way. The main reason however that I chose OAT is that I would FAR rather spend 5 months in the US then 12 months in Spain.
Its all down to personal preference and what you think will suit you better. I personally thing that OAT probably have a slightly better name for themselves. I know a number of current pilots flying for a number of different airlines and I spoke to them about my training options and nearly all of them said OAT was the way to go.
Its all down to personal preference and what you think will suit you better. I personally thing that OAT probably have a slightly better name for themselves. I know a number of current pilots flying for a number of different airlines and I spoke to them about my training options and nearly all of them said OAT was the way to go.
Good reason to learn Spanish, then!
"Firstly OAT get all of the groundschool out the way first" - this is not the way that integrated courses were originally conceived. The idea of integrated was that flight training was "integrated" with the goundschool. Basically Oxford is now "modular" but at an integrated price!
"Firstly OAT get all of the groundschool out the way first" - this is not the way that integrated courses were originally conceived. The idea of integrated was that flight training was "integrated" with the goundschool. Basically Oxford is now "modular" but at an integrated price!
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Jam, Have you considered integrated training at Cabair? It's cheaper than both OAT & FTE, has the advantage being based in the U.K. therefore you get exposed to U.K. R/T from the word go and it sandwiches its flying and grounschools in alternating 8 week blocks. It also has very modern (2003) Diamond Star DA-40 aircraft with full FADEC system. And it looks like they will very shortly be upgrading their twins to DA-42's with full EFIS.