Jerez Pilapt test

[GRANTS]

Hello there,

I tried Ctc Pilapt test and failed.
my multytasking was good (upper third) but my eye-hand function was in the lower one.

I never new that I had such a problem and a check-ride I have done with an ex-military instructor showed I am more than ok.

I am considering my options at the moment and Jerez looks great.

is there any advice you guys can give me before attending thier Pilapt test?
I guess I am just not good at those but I might be great in the air...

thanks in advance,

GRANTS

[Ricky1]

I am also going to Jerez. My pilapt test is next week!! I dont have a clue of what to expect. Ill let you know in a weeks time about the tests. If you get any information though could you plz post it here...
Regards
Ricky

[Biscuit]

I think the selection test with Jerez will go something like this...

Jerez: Have you 90,000 euros ?? (said in a demanding fashion)

Student: Yes I have! (said keenly)

Jerez: Well done young fella, you've passed! (said with a big smile)

[GRANTS]

I wish...

Ricky, I would appreciate it.
Biscuit, hope you are a panel member over there...

Grants

[Ricky1]

Cheers Biscuit,

any real advise though? They can't be that easy to get into.... They said the tests would consist of 3 written tests and 1 numerical, A PILAPT test and a mock Airline interview? what level of physics and maths will I need?

Ricky

[GRIFFIN2000]

Hey GRANTS and Ricky1, check this one out as well... www.pilotutdanning.no

[Ricky1]

Hey Grants,
Check this web site out www.pilottesting.com
Still it won't be able to tell us what to expect in the written tests or interview.....
Ricky

[GRANTS]

I know this test

Thats is the test Ctc gives.
I have done it but wasn´t good enough in some fields.
it´s a mind blower as you must stay concentrated for a long time.
I wonder if one can do better on the second time.

Grants

[bertie777]

I just want to get one point straight here.

I got back from Jerez a few weeks ago after passing the apptitude tests. They are not easy, but by no means are they as demanding as the exams you are required to pass for sponsorship.

The PILAPT, you can't prepare for - you either have the ability or you don't - sorry but that is set in stone.

With regards to the money, the only time is was bought up was when me and my friends mentioned it. There is no push and shuv or any sort. If you don't meet the grades on the tests then you wont get in - simple! I don't have the money, and I got in! But I want it, so I will find the money hopefully from HSBC!

Afterall, if they take you on and your not capable of passing then it's both parties that lose! They get a bad reputation and you tell 10 people on average about your experience! Plus you lose 98000 euros if doing the JOC - so whose kidding who!

Just go along, the best of luck! You will meet all the staff who act in the most professional way - if you find it different then by all means come back and say so! Carmen, Mary-Jo and Michael along with Pete who you will have your final debriefing with are all great people.

Beer is cheap, accomodation is fine and the food isnt that bad either! Oh and the weather is the nuts for this time of year

Have fun guys and make sure you keep us informed on how you do!

Never know, maybe see you down in Jerez in the new year.

Bertie

[michaelknight]

Think it's 92K.

Well I hope the mock interview goes well as it's the only interview you'll get thanks to Jerez

MK

[GRANTS]

same test

Hey Bertie,

I have done Ctc´s and from what I saw in Pilapt`s web page they have only one test so it must be the same one in Jerez.
They might accept a lower level of performance though.
do you have your feedback already ar just the positive answer?

How are the other tests like?


thanks in advance,

Grants

[bertie777]

ok the pilapt that jerez have - and im prob gonna get in trouble for saying this.

1. Crosshairs
2. Man with hands, +ve left square etc.
3. Flying through boxes
4. two boxes with loads of lines and shapes to find

Be aware though that there are no complicated counting backwards whilst centering the joystick and selecting coloured shapes to worry about.

I have my feedback and my mark for the PILAPT was 10/10 you will get all the results and details at the debriefing with Pete

Paper maths and physics is OK - not too tricky. There is also a verbal written test which isnt too bad.

The computer tests are a little more tricky. Maths is timed and involves percentages and ratios based on graphs and tables. You will NOT be able to answer all the questions.... i you get half way through you've done bloody well!

The computer literacy, you should get finished - just! with seconds to spare!

Overall its a fun entertaining trip - you'll enjoy every minute!

Hope this helps.

Bertie

with regards to micheals post referring to price, he is correct - 92000 euros is the course price.

BUT

if you wqant the Jet Orientation then it is 98000, upste training is an extra 1500.

[Ricky1]

Hey Bertie777,
Thanks a mill... I will let you know how i get on... Is there any web-site that poses simillar maths questions that you know of? Hope to be training with you next year!
Ricky

[bertie777]

I don't know of any websites but let me just say - you can use a calculator in all the maths exams!

Good luck.

[concorde002]

I think a good website worth a try is www.shldirect.com as they are the same stlye of tests used by FTE.

Bertie's decription of the selection is certainly accurate, FTE is well worth a visit, especially as the selection tests are still free until Feb 2005 and the Ryanair flight was only about £50!!

Regards

[FireFoxDown]

Hi all,

I was supposed to be heading down there this week but couldnt sort out the right amount of time off work(hey i need a few days after to "recouperate"!).

Any info on what its like would be really helpful! Also anyone heading down in Jan look at for me!

[First Officer Finch]

I went to do the aptitude tests last month and let me tell you, they were tough. Don't let anyone fool you into thinking that they were easy because they certainly were not. I have A-levels in Maths and Physics and I still found them tough. Apparantly now they have more mental capacity and multi tasking tests like CTC.

I was lucky enough to have the old tests but still didn't make it through. They said my interview (which was pretty gruelling!) let me down and that my technical knowledge was poor.

All in all I thought the place was OK but I was a little disappointed with some of the facilities and the aircraft, and the lads seemed a little dejected which made me think it wasn't really worth the money. The people were quite nice though and I had a good trip.

Im going to finalize my modualar route now, which just seems a better route for me especially for the cost. The amount of bullskit they gave me about jobs and stuff just sounded like a load of marketing rubbish, like Oxford, so Im not too bothered. Also, I know for a fact that airlines don't have any preference for integrated graduates so don't let them fool you with that. Good luck if you apply, you'll probably need it, and don't listen to any unresearched, naive comments such as the one made by a certain edible poster earlier on in this thread. Good luck!

FOF

[GRANTS]

Thanks guys, but...

At the moment there is a big chance that I am out of the race...
last friday I was diagnozed to suffer from a chronic eye illness, that although I am holding a british class 1, will make me loosing it in few years.

I am on my way for some second and third opinions...
sad... so sad...

Grants

[Reds Blues Greens]

last friday I was diagnozed to suffer from a chronic eye illness

I am so sorry to hear that. It makes me realise how much I take my good health for granted.

I hope that you will still be able to hold a class two and be able to experience the pleasure of private flying.

Ian.

[GRANTS]

Hey Reds

I will know more this monday, I have got a meeting with another expert.

thanks man,

Grants