Wikiposts
Search
Professional Pilot Training (includes ground studies) A forum for those on the steep path to that coveted professional licence. Whether studying for the written exams, training for the flight tests or building experience here's where you can hang out.

Alpha rate

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 1st Oct 2004, 15:03
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Bristol
Posts: 147
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Alpha rate

Hi guys/girls
Can someone please let me know the difference between pitch rate and alpha rate?
ramshorn is offline  
Old 1st Oct 2004, 15:36
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I assume it is basically it is the difference in the rate of change of the Angle of Attack (alpha) and Pitch. Although I have not heard anybody asking for the alpha or pitch "rate" before.

The definition of AoA is the angle between the mean chord line of the wing and the relative airflow. Pitch is the angle between the longitudunal axis of the a/c and the 'horizon.'
Cabotage Kid is offline  
Old 1st Oct 2004, 17:36
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Bristol
Posts: 461
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Think of a steady loop. Pitch is increasing as the nose comes up, but alpha is more or less constant. Pitch rate high and positive, alpha rate zero.

Stall warning and avoidance systems essentially interrogate alpha, for alpha defines the stall. However, if alpha is rising rapidly toward the stall value it would be prudent to start the warning or recovery before the whole thing overshoots and turns to worms. Therefore modern stall warners interrogate alpha rate as well as alpha.

Dick W
Dick Whittingham is offline  
Old 1st Oct 2004, 17:45
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks Dick. I've certainly benefitted from your explanation.
Cabotage Kid is offline  
Old 1st Oct 2004, 22:23
  #5 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Bristol
Posts: 147
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
cheers!

I'll second that.thanks for the explanation Dick.
Ramshorn
ramshorn is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.