Bournemouth IR pass rates
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From: London
Re league tables........
Because they are only of moderate interest and do not tell you much. I suppose at the extremes if schools are having 100% pass/fail rates on first attempts then that might be of some interest. BUT you would then have to find out what was influencing the statistics. Could be that a school with 100% pass rate had:-
- majority of its customers converting from military or o/seas licences
- over trained you and required you to do say 65 hours prior to taking the test
- or they could be bl**dy good!!
It also works vice versa. Don't get me wrong I am all in favour of transparency but it is only 1 piece of the jigsaw.
Because they are only of moderate interest and do not tell you much. I suppose at the extremes if schools are having 100% pass/fail rates on first attempts then that might be of some interest. BUT you would then have to find out what was influencing the statistics. Could be that a school with 100% pass rate had:-
- majority of its customers converting from military or o/seas licences
- over trained you and required you to do say 65 hours prior to taking the test
- or they could be bl**dy good!!
It also works vice versa. Don't get me wrong I am all in favour of transparency but it is only 1 piece of the jigsaw.
Jet Blast Rat
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From: Sarfend-on-Sea
Take the example in this case. EPTA were teaching a particularly difficult group of students, from a culture that is not conducive to flight training (considering the idiot who nearly gave me a heart attack with his position report the other day, I suspect they may still be). These would affect the statistics despite anything the school could do.
Other schools have students sponsored by UK airlines. They have all passed aptitude tests, so will on average fly reasonably well and be easier to teach.
As you can see, league tables would not be very much help.
Other schools have students sponsored by UK airlines. They have all passed aptitude tests, so will on average fly reasonably well and be easier to teach.
As you can see, league tables would not be very much help.
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From: sw london
I may be a little naive here but with league tables that relate directly to gft/irt passes ensure transparency within the industry.
Or have some schools have something to hide, also this would sift some of the genuine claims from not so genuine.
Send Clowns you must have some sort of superiority complex.
By suggesting that certain cultures may not up to flying is nonsense.
Or have some schools have something to hide, also this would sift some of the genuine claims from not so genuine.
Send Clowns you must have some sort of superiority complex.
By suggesting that certain cultures may not up to flying is nonsense.
Jet Blast Rat
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From: Sarfend-on-Sea
Rob - I never said they're not up to flying. Please read a post before insulting the poster. I said their culture is not conducive to flight training. Unless you have completely missed all the Human Performance / CRM / MCC training you will be quite aware that the existence of cultural issues in flying is well documented.
Do you seriously believe that all cultures are the same? If so where does the concept of culture come from? If not why should all cultures respond in the same way to flight training?
Do you seriously believe that all cultures are the same? If so where does the concept of culture come from? If not why should all cultures respond in the same way to flight training?
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From: a green and pleasant land.......sometimes
It' the little things!
I thought i'd take the heat out of this one.
I visited EPTA acouple of days ago, and the CFI made my wife and i coffee, black no sugar, just as we had asked.
Believe me, some places couldn't even get that right!
Maybe I won't be practicing "would you like fries with that" just yet!!
cheers
I visited EPTA acouple of days ago, and the CFI made my wife and i coffee, black no sugar, just as we had asked.
Believe me, some places couldn't even get that right!
Maybe I won't be practicing "would you like fries with that" just yet!!
cheers
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From: TYLOS
I Passed my ME IR Last week first time with AFT at Exeter. I don't consider myself at all to be above average or natural when it comes to picking up new skills.
My advice is pick a good school with a good solid track record, experienced, well qualified instructors and back seat as much as possible from day 1. The test is difficult but people do pass it first time and so don't spend too much time looking at pass rates on paper, get down to the schools and speak to the current students and instructors.
I passed in min hours (50 hr course) but I reckon I spent more like 85 -90 hours in the air over the 6 weeks. You pick so much up watching people making the same type of mistakes you will or have make.
Good luck to all.
My advice is pick a good school with a good solid track record, experienced, well qualified instructors and back seat as much as possible from day 1. The test is difficult but people do pass it first time and so don't spend too much time looking at pass rates on paper, get down to the schools and speak to the current students and instructors.
I passed in min hours (50 hr course) but I reckon I spent more like 85 -90 hours in the air over the 6 weeks. You pick so much up watching people making the same type of mistakes you will or have make.
Good luck to all.
