Aerofan madrid
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Aerofan madrid
Hello PPruners,
I found the Aerofan website in madrid, they seem to have very resonable JAA course prices. Has anyone been there and flown there before or have any knowledge of their pass rates and safety record?
thanks
I found the Aerofan website in madrid, they seem to have very resonable JAA course prices. Has anyone been there and flown there before or have any knowledge of their pass rates and safety record?
thanks
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Look I have been told by the students fligth training is not good ( I see them every day). And some of them are in court agaist Areofan. Do not ask me why because I do not know. You can go to www.extracrew.com that is a spanish forum and there you will see the Arofan students for sure. Just make a topic. By the way last topic that was made about Aerofan was deteled by the moderator for some reason that I do nt know eather.
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I believe it to be around 8500euros for multi IR. all of it is airbourne in 172s and a 310.
so u can see my interest...
however it does not mention landing fees approach fees airways charges and a VAT. We have emailed aerofan and asked them about these and the cost of the 310 per hour with no response as of yet. the accomodation on site is of interest too.
put its certainly sounds interesting.
i personally like the MCC course, 40 hrs in a 757 full motion sim, does anyone know if this would beneficial. could i log this time?
so u can see my interest...
however it does not mention landing fees approach fees airways charges and a VAT. We have emailed aerofan and asked them about these and the cost of the 310 per hour with no response as of yet. the accomodation on site is of interest too.
put its certainly sounds interesting.
i personally like the MCC course, 40 hrs in a 757 full motion sim, does anyone know if this would beneficial. could i log this time?
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by the way the airport where Aerofan operates (Cuatro Vientos)does not have ILS. And you are not allowed to do approchs to Barajas, Torrejon.... So find out where are you going to do this. Make sure that they take you to other airport to do the course because the next airfield where you can do it is 1 hour away. Close airports Badajoz, Valencia and Vallalodid.
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razzele,
Sounds good to me too. I must admit that I am put off by the fact that ILS is not onsite. However the above advantage and the fact that it is not expensive are very favourable. To do the IR at my local airfield would cost at least £10K, with 15hrs airbourne time and the rest in the FNPT(II) sim.
Sadly, you won't be able to log the 757 time in your log book.
Peb,
Thank you for the information.
I believe it to be around 8500euros for multi IR. all of it is airbourne in 172s and a 310.
Sadly, you won't be able to log the 757 time in your log book.
Peb,
Thank you for the information.
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For 9015,18 Euros you can do it in Aeromadrid
PA28-161 15 hours
PA34-200 18 hours
Simulator ATC-810 25 hours
The thing about this fliht training is that they will take you to Valencia where they have flats and you can spend a few night there. So you can do ILS. Aeromadrid is situated in the same airport than Aerofan.
By the way I do not have any bussines with them.
http://www.aeromadrid.com
You can also check American Flyers (Madrid), AirMed (Valencia), Airman ( they are all over Spain), Aerotec (they are also in several places in Spain).
Any way my advice will be or AirMed, Aeromadrid or American Flyers.
PA28-161 15 hours
PA34-200 18 hours
Simulator ATC-810 25 hours
The thing about this fliht training is that they will take you to Valencia where they have flats and you can spend a few night there. So you can do ILS. Aeromadrid is situated in the same airport than Aerofan.
By the way I do not have any bussines with them.
http://www.aeromadrid.com
You can also check American Flyers (Madrid), AirMed (Valencia), Airman ( they are all over Spain), Aerotec (they are also in several places in Spain).
Any way my advice will be or AirMed, Aeromadrid or American Flyers.
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word of mouth from a chap who left there conveyed some further information to me about training in the madrid area.
i tried to PM the boss of aerofan with no response with these concerning this
atc conversing with traffic in spanish only
i dont know if this could be true but would like to find out !
well thanks for your thoughts ... #
if anyone has anything else to add i am all ears..
i tried to PM the boss of aerofan with no response with these concerning this
atc conversing with traffic in spanish only
i dont know if this could be true but would like to find out !
well thanks for your thoughts ... #
if anyone has anything else to add i am all ears..
Last edited by razzele; 20th February 2004 at 12:25.
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I have just finished an ME-IR at Aerofan
1. They are a good school that train students to the same high standards as UK schools.
2. Most of the ATC is in Spanish. If your speak to ATC in English, they will reply in English. (Most of the time)
3. The price of an ME-IR is 8400euros or £6500 35hrs on a C172, 15hrs on C310. The C310 is a great aircraft, rotating at about 85knots !!
4. ILS approaches are done at nearby airports, but they are mainly about 40mins flying time away. These are done on trips to demonstrate IFR flights and therefore form part of the course and incorporate flight management into IFR flying. Although they are a short flight away, I don't believe I am any less trained than anyone else.
5. Cuatro Vientos is a busy airport. You can be queuing for a while, but they don't charge you waiting for 20mins to taxi.
6. The flight tests cost 150euros and are considerably less formal than the UK test. However, I feel more than competent to undertake an IFR flight in the UK.
7. The UK CAA put my ME-IR in my licence within 3 hours and it proves that all JAA states are now one big happy family !!!
8. I have no problems with Aerofan. The instruction is excellent and beats the extortionate price of the UK schools.
1. They are a good school that train students to the same high standards as UK schools.
2. Most of the ATC is in Spanish. If your speak to ATC in English, they will reply in English. (Most of the time)
3. The price of an ME-IR is 8400euros or £6500 35hrs on a C172, 15hrs on C310. The C310 is a great aircraft, rotating at about 85knots !!
4. ILS approaches are done at nearby airports, but they are mainly about 40mins flying time away. These are done on trips to demonstrate IFR flights and therefore form part of the course and incorporate flight management into IFR flying. Although they are a short flight away, I don't believe I am any less trained than anyone else.
5. Cuatro Vientos is a busy airport. You can be queuing for a while, but they don't charge you waiting for 20mins to taxi.
6. The flight tests cost 150euros and are considerably less formal than the UK test. However, I feel more than competent to undertake an IFR flight in the UK.
7. The UK CAA put my ME-IR in my licence within 3 hours and it proves that all JAA states are now one big happy family !!!
8. I have no problems with Aerofan. The instruction is excellent and beats the extortionate price of the UK schools.