Flyer Professional Flight Training Show 2004
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Someone mentioned there was a similar show in Manchester. Does anyone have details on this, and if there will another one in the near future?
I drove down to last Novembers show at H'Row, all the way from Manchester found it really useful, but the drive there and back in a day is a killer.
Thanks
Martin
I drove down to last Novembers show at H'Row, all the way from Manchester found it really useful, but the drive there and back in a day is a killer.
Thanks
Martin
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Yoda... i "won" one of these last week. Its first come first served apparently.
Looks like there are still some left. (thought this post may see to that!)
http://www.oxfordaviation.net/flyer.htm
Looks like there are still some left. (thought this post may see to that!)
http://www.oxfordaviation.net/flyer.htm
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I'm going to raise this thread from the ashes...
Is there a plan for fellow ppruner's to meet up for lunch at the pub around the corner?
McDonalds was exceptionally busy last time... besides I've banned myself from McD's and have been a good boy for a couple of months so far!
I've just been told I've got a free ticket curtousy of a well known flying school in florida.
That £10 I've saved will be eaten up by the hurrendous car park charges though.
Best wishes,
Charlie Zulu
Is there a plan for fellow ppruner's to meet up for lunch at the pub around the corner?
McDonalds was exceptionally busy last time... besides I've banned myself from McD's and have been a good boy for a couple of months so far!
I've just been told I've got a free ticket curtousy of a well known flying school in florida.
That £10 I've saved will be eaten up by the hurrendous car park charges though.
Best wishes,
Charlie Zulu
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I went today and came home with loads of useful info and a book containing all the questions that can possibly be asked in the PPL exams.
Didn't realise until reading this that there was an entry charge. I got there about 1330 and just walked right in for free !! Got to speak to all the people I wanted to and got all the info and attended the last seminar too. So don't think I missed out and saved a tenner by the sounds of it.
I was thinking of doing the Cabair course when I went to their seminar, but after speaking to the Multiflight people today, I think I'll head their way and my old folks live about 2 miles from their gaff so I can save a few hundred £ on accomodation and food costs too !!!.
Didn't realise until reading this that there was an entry charge. I got there about 1330 and just walked right in for free !! Got to speak to all the people I wanted to and got all the info and attended the last seminar too. So don't think I missed out and saved a tenner by the sounds of it.
I was thinking of doing the Cabair course when I went to their seminar, but after speaking to the Multiflight people today, I think I'll head their way and my old folks live about 2 miles from their gaff so I can save a few hundred £ on accomodation and food costs too !!!.
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did anyone attend the BA seminar what do they have planned for this year? anyword on their sponsorship coming back to life? What are there plans, have the 140 pilots began to retire yet?
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I went to the BA seminar.
The focus was on what life would be like for a new F/O in the first few months of being accepted in to BA.
They expect to be recruiting on to the 777 & 744 this summer. No specifics. But he hinted that the entry requirements would ba 2000hrs TT with 1000 (?) multi crew.
I heard no mention of the sponsorship being resurrected. But he did mention the possibility that BA would take on self sponsored integrated "cadets" should the need arise. The would be from "selected schools". He was asked to name them but declined saying it would be unfair to other schools.
Regarding retirements, he said that the time to command is currently 8-10 years. But this may rise in the future due to age discrimination law set to be introduced in October of 2006. This would mean that captains would be able to work past BA's current retirement age of 55. I expect a many will as no doubt that are on a bloody good wage and would rather near the top of the seniority list. This of course will push command times up.
P.S who are the 140?
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The focus was on what life would be like for a new F/O in the first few months of being accepted in to BA.
They expect to be recruiting on to the 777 & 744 this summer. No specifics. But he hinted that the entry requirements would ba 2000hrs TT with 1000 (?) multi crew.
I heard no mention of the sponsorship being resurrected. But he did mention the possibility that BA would take on self sponsored integrated "cadets" should the need arise. The would be from "selected schools". He was asked to name them but declined saying it would be unfair to other schools.
Regarding retirements, he said that the time to command is currently 8-10 years. But this may rise in the future due to age discrimination law set to be introduced in October of 2006. This would mean that captains would be able to work past BA's current retirement age of 55. I expect a many will as no doubt that are on a bloody good wage and would rather near the top of the seniority list. This of course will push command times up.
P.S who are the 140?
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To expand on what Half a Mexican said, i think ab initio wannabes are very far down the chain as far as BA are concerned. Their priorities at the moment are the following order
1. Experience type-rated 747/777 DE pilots
2. Experienced type rated DE pilots
3. Sponsored Integrated pilots
4. DE Self sponsored integrated pilots(as Half a Mexican has described above)
5. DE Self sponsored Modular pilots.
If you (wish to) fall within Groups 3,4 &5, i don't think the future is looking too good at the moment.
from what John Monks said, if the age discrimination law goes thru i think they'll scrap the the cadet scheme, they are already having difficulty justifying it to the board at the moment.
I would be careful about buying a typerating also. BA and Britannia would not really look at a typerated pilot without a minimum of around 500-1000hrs line experience.
Malcolm Dean pi$$ed of a lot of the FTOs when he said he didn't see the point of training in the UK
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It was an educating experience in general. If i recycle all the brochures i recieved, I might be able to pay for my training
Capt. manuvar
1. Experience type-rated 747/777 DE pilots
2. Experienced type rated DE pilots
3. Sponsored Integrated pilots
4. DE Self sponsored integrated pilots(as Half a Mexican has described above)
5. DE Self sponsored Modular pilots.
If you (wish to) fall within Groups 3,4 &5, i don't think the future is looking too good at the moment.
from what John Monks said, if the age discrimination law goes thru i think they'll scrap the the cadet scheme, they are already having difficulty justifying it to the board at the moment.
I would be careful about buying a typerating also. BA and Britannia would not really look at a typerated pilot without a minimum of around 500-1000hrs line experience.
Malcolm Dean pi$$ed of a lot of the FTOs when he said he didn't see the point of training in the UK
.It was an educating experience in general. If i recycle all the brochures i recieved, I might be able to pay for my training
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Malcolm Dean
Malcolm Dean was there as an independant.
I was recommended to speak to him by Alex at Bristol GroundSchool and it was worthwhile, although he did just tell me to do what I'd already planned myself. (Multiflight Ab-initio).
He also said to me that doing the basic ppl and 150 hours over here is a waste of time and money as it's cheaper and quicker and more reliable weather wise to so it in the states. Although he said to do the FAA PPL which I found strange.
Did anyone get contact details for him, as I forgot as he had to go into the last seminar whilst I was with him ?. Doh !!.
PA28,
You work @ LBA ??? I used to work there a few years back for Circusair.
I was recommended to speak to him by Alex at Bristol GroundSchool and it was worthwhile, although he did just tell me to do what I'd already planned myself. (Multiflight Ab-initio).
He also said to me that doing the basic ppl and 150 hours over here is a waste of time and money as it's cheaper and quicker and more reliable weather wise to so it in the states. Although he said to do the FAA PPL which I found strange.
Did anyone get contact details for him, as I forgot as he had to go into the last seminar whilst I was with him ?. Doh !!.
PA28,
You work @ LBA ??? I used to work there a few years back for Circusair.
