December Gen Nav
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I dont think its the hardest exam in the World Mark24. I just ran out of time. Of the questions I had done, I was quite confident I had got them right and my mark reflects this. Just get a good quantity of feedback and practice practice to get speed, a few grinds with one of the specialist companies would seem like a good idea too?
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Thanks for the steer Turkish, I'll check out the Jeppesen books. Mark24, I can't really comment properly on Abacus as I haven't seen all of their material, what I have seen seems good. Oxford/Jeppesen have a similar product which their CGI tells me is a mix of feedback and made up questions I think the prices are about the same, around €100 a month.
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High Wing - Sorry for the late reply, have been away enjoying the new year celebrations. Don't be scared of the exam, if you read the questions and answer what is set, if you are fast and accurate on the CRP-5 then you should be OK. I hope Alex's comments here have also calmed you, but if you have any more specific querries, then put them here or do not hesitate to send me a private message.
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Thanks Clowns,
Feeling better already. I think I'm OK with the CRP. I use common stuff for every flight and make a point of using it to do conversions rather than the calculator. Need to brush up on the stuff I never use for practical purposes, like finding wind from drift and GS, ect. Not rocket science as you guys say, but sometimes I do stare at and think "Now what?"
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Feeling better already. I think I'm OK with the CRP. I use common stuff for every flight and make a point of using it to do conversions rather than the calculator. Need to brush up on the stuff I never use for practical purposes, like finding wind from drift and GS, ect. Not rocket science as you guys say, but sometimes I do stare at and think "Now what?"
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I read all the Trevor Thom books cover to cover when I did my PPL. I did all the PPL exams at my local flying club, and paid for one on one tuition with the clubs ground school instructor before I sat the exams. I passed all PPL exams first time no problems and that has proved to be an excellent building block as I have worked through my ATPL exams.
When I got out to California to do the flying they asked me what books I used for ground school. Trevor Thom rubbish they said, to much detail, too boring. So I think some of what was said earlier in this thread may have some truth to it. Certainly there was very little in PoF ATPL notes that wasnt in Trevor Thoms book, except for high speed flight obviously. The quality of flight instruction I got in California was good though, I had an excellent instructor.
What I have done everytime I have gone flying on my PPL is get out CRP 5 and calculate wind corrected headings, TAS, expected fuel burn, and updated ETA's and heading in flight etc etc. When it came to the Gen Nav exam that was a big big help I think. 1/60 rule etc etc. They way I looked at it the more CRP 5 questions the better, as I knew I would get them correct.
With the regard to the form of the earth type stuff, I think the biggest thing people struggle with is having spent their hole life looking at mercator type wall maps, school atlas type projections. Hence they struggle with things like convergency, earth conversion angle and so on.
When I got out to California to do the flying they asked me what books I used for ground school. Trevor Thom rubbish they said, to much detail, too boring. So I think some of what was said earlier in this thread may have some truth to it. Certainly there was very little in PoF ATPL notes that wasnt in Trevor Thoms book, except for high speed flight obviously. The quality of flight instruction I got in California was good though, I had an excellent instructor.
What I have done everytime I have gone flying on my PPL is get out CRP 5 and calculate wind corrected headings, TAS, expected fuel burn, and updated ETA's and heading in flight etc etc. When it came to the Gen Nav exam that was a big big help I think. 1/60 rule etc etc. They way I looked at it the more CRP 5 questions the better, as I knew I would get them correct.
With the regard to the form of the earth type stuff, I think the biggest thing people struggle with is having spent their hole life looking at mercator type wall maps, school atlas type projections. Hence they struggle with things like convergency, earth conversion angle and so on.
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I have a copy of it , but as i am preparing for the Feb exam i cant let it go yet.
It is a very good tool for gaining confidence in using the crp5 and as well as the lessons it gives, it has a large questions and answers section. Having said that, i have found the questions a bit on the simple side, sort of PPL level certainly nothing as tricky as the ATPL questions I have come accross.
In conclusion I would recommend it, lets face it the Gnav exam seems to be a speed CRP test, so anything that helps making you a whizz on the wheel has got to be worth the twenty odd quid
jinks - if you are taking it after Feb , you are welcome to borrow/buy it .
I will pass g-nav , i will pass g -nav !!
It is a very good tool for gaining confidence in using the crp5 and as well as the lessons it gives, it has a large questions and answers section. Having said that, i have found the questions a bit on the simple side, sort of PPL level certainly nothing as tricky as the ATPL questions I have come accross.
In conclusion I would recommend it, lets face it the Gnav exam seems to be a speed CRP test, so anything that helps making you a whizz on the wheel has got to be worth the twenty odd quid
jinks - if you are taking it after Feb , you are welcome to borrow/buy it .
I will pass g-nav , i will pass g -nav !!
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I suspect that most people have problems with Gen Nav because it involves "sums" and most people just never do anything similar in their daily lives.
I know one friend who is about to sit the exams for the first time and he says his brain goes blank when looking at the Nav questions just because of the maths.
As with anything though, it's gets a lot easier with practice.
The instructors on my ATPL course swore by the CRP-5.
I f@%king swore by it when I had to buy one to replace my AFE ARC-1 because it came up with slightly different answers than the CRP-5
The main problem I have in using slide rule flight computers is for:
1. Private pilots. Guestimation techiques work very well for diversions whilst airborne, so why revert to an easily confused tool on the ground. During my PPL flight test we were tested on diverting using the Flight Computer to work out everything. What a complete waste of time (and dangerous if you ask me).
2. For wannabe Commercial pilots
I would like to count how many airline pilots keep their CRP-5 in their flight bag "just in case". So what's the point in learning how to use it.
That's my 2 pennies worth anyway.
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I know one friend who is about to sit the exams for the first time and he says his brain goes blank when looking at the Nav questions just because of the maths.
As with anything though, it's gets a lot easier with practice.
The instructors on my ATPL course swore by the CRP-5.
I f@%king swore by it when I had to buy one to replace my AFE ARC-1 because it came up with slightly different answers than the CRP-5
The main problem I have in using slide rule flight computers is for:
1. Private pilots. Guestimation techiques work very well for diversions whilst airborne, so why revert to an easily confused tool on the ground. During my PPL flight test we were tested on diverting using the Flight Computer to work out everything. What a complete waste of time (and dangerous if you ask me).
2. For wannabe Commercial pilots
I would like to count how many airline pilots keep their CRP-5 in their flight bag "just in case". So what's the point in learning how to use it.
That's my 2 pennies worth anyway.
FIS.
