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THE Eric Brown List
It can be found in several places - but to put it here, here's the list of types flown by Captain Eric Brown - a great many of them GA types.
None of us come close to being quite the great man that Captain Brown was, but it's a very interesting list by which to compare our own experience... Aeronca Grasshopper Aerospatiale Alouette Aerospatiale Ecureuil Aerospatiale Twin Squirrel Agusta 109 Aichi Val Airspeed Ambassador Airspeed Envoy Airspeed Horsa Airspeed Oxford Arado 96B Arado 196A Arado 199 Arado 232B Arado 234B - Blitz Arado 240 Armstrong Whitworth Albemarle Armstrong Whitworth Whitley Auster Aiglet Avro Anson Avro Athena Avro Lancaster Avro Lancastrian Avro Lincoln Avro Manchester Avro Shackleton Avro Tudor Avro Tutor Avro York B.A. Swallow BAe 125 BAe 146 BAe Hawk BAC Lightning Baynes Carrier Wing Beagle B.206 Beagle Pup Beech Baron Beech Bonanza Beech Super King Air Beech Traveller Beechcraft Expediter Bell AH-1 Huey Bell 47 Bell 204 Bell 222 Bell Airacobra Bell Airacomet Bell HTL-5 Bell Jet Ranger Bell King Cobra Bell Long Ranger Blackburn Beverley Blackburn Botha Blackburn Buccaneer Blackburn Firebrand Blackburn Firecrest Blackburn Roc Blackburn Shark Blackburn Skua Blohm & Voss 138 Blohm & Voss 141B Blohm & Voss 222 Wiking Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress Boeing B-29 Superfortress Boeing Vertol Chinook Boulton Paul Defiant Boulton Paul P.108 Boulton Paul Sea Balliol Brantly B-2 Breguet Alizé Breguet Atlantic Brewster Buffalo Bristol Beaufighter Bristol Beaufort Bristol Blenheim Bristol Bombay Bristol Brigand Bristol Britannia Bristol Buckingham Bristol Bulldog Bristol Freighter Bristol Sycamore Britten-Norman Islander Bücker Bestmann Bücker Jungmann Bücker Jungmeister Bücker Student Cant Z1007 Caproni Ca.309 Caproni Ca.311 Caproni Ca.135 Cessna 150 Cessna Cardinal Cessna Skymaster Cessna Skywagon Chance-Vought Corsair Chance-Vought Cutlass Chilton D.W.1 Chrislea Ace Comper Swift Consolidated Catalina Consolidated Liberator Consolidated Vultee Privateer Convair 240-5 Curtiss Commando Curtiss Helldiver Curtiss Kittyhawk Curtiss Mohawk Curtiss Seamew Curtiss Tomahawk Dassault Étendard Dassault Mirage Dassault Mystère de Havilland 86B de Havilland Beaver de Havilland Chipmunk de Havilland Comet de Havilland Devon de Havilland Don de Havilland Flamingo de Havilland Fox Moth de Havilland Gipsy Moth de Havilland Heron de Havilland Hornet Moth de Havilland Mosquito de Havilland Otter de Havilland Puss Moth de Havilland Rapide de Havilland Sea Hornet de Havilland Sea Mosquito de Havilland Sea Vampire de Havilland Sea Venom de Havilland Sea Vixen de Havilland Swallow de Havilland Tiger Moth de Havilland Vampire Dewoitine 520 DFS 230 DFS Kranich DFS Weihe Dornier 17 Dornier 18 Dornier 24 Dornier 26 Dornier 27 Dornier 217 Dornier 335 - Pfeil Douglas Boston Douglas Dakota Douglas Dauntless Douglas Devastator Douglas Invader Douglas Skymaster Douglas Skyknight Douglas Skyraider Druine Turbulent Elliot Newbury Eon Embraer Bandeirante English Electric Canberra Enstrom F28 Enstrom Shark Erco Ercoupe Fairchild Argus Fairchild Cornell Fairchild XNQ-1 Fairey IIIF Fairey Albacore Fairey Barracuda Fairey Battle Fairey Firefly Fairey Fulmar Fairey Gannet Fairey Gordon Fairey Primer Fairey Spearfish Fairey Swordfish Fiat B.R.20 Fiat C.32 Fiat C.42 Fiat G.50 Fieseler Storch Focke-Wulf 189 - Uhu Focke-Wulf 190 Focke-Wulf 200 - Condor Focke-Wulf 58 Weihe Focke-Wulf Ta.152 Focke-Wulf Ta.154 - Moskito Folland 43/37 Fouga Magister Fournier Milan General Aircraft Cygnet General Aircraft Hamilcar General Aircraft Hotspur General Aircraft L/56 Gloster E.28/39 Gloster Gauntlet Gloster Gladiator Gloster Javelin Gloster Meteor Gloster Sea Meteor Gotha 244 Grumman Ag-Cat Grumman Albatross Grumman Avenger Grumman Bearcat Grumman Cougar Grumman Goose Grumman Guardian Grumman Hellcat Grumman Panther Grumman Tigercat Grumman Widgeon Grumman Wildcat Handley Page Gugnunc Handley Page Halifax Handley Page Hampden Handley Page Hastings Handley Page Hermes Handley Page Marathon Handley Page Sparrow Hawker Fury - biplane Hawker Hart Hawker Hector Hawker Henley Hawker Hunter Hawker Hurricane Hawker Nimrod Hawker Osprey Hawker P.1040 Hawker P.1052 Hawker P.1127 - VTOL (yes what became Harrier/Sea Harrier) Hawker Sea Fury Hawker Sea Hawk Hawker Siddeley 748 Hawker Siddeley Gnat Hawker Tempest Hawker Typhoon Heinkel 111 Heinkel 115 Heinkel 162 - Volksjäger Heinkel 177 - Greif Heinkel 219 - Uhu Henschel 123 Henschel 129 Heston Phoenix Hiller HTE Hitachi T.2 Horten IV Hughes 300 Hughes 500 Hunting Percival Jet Provost Hunting Percival Provost Ilyushin 2 - Shturmovik Ilyushin 4 Jodel Ambassadour Jodel Club Jodel Excellence Jodel Grand Tourisme Jodel Mascaret Jodel Mousqetaire Junkers 52 Junkers 86 Junkers 87 - Stuka Junkers 188 Junkers 290 Junkers 352 Junkers 388 Kamov 26 Kawasaki Tony Klemm 26 Klemm 35D Klemm L25 Klemm L27 Lavochkin 7 Le Vier Cosmic Wind Ling Temco Vought Crusader Lockheed Constellation Lockheed Electra Lockheed Hercules Lockheed Hudson Lockheed Lightning Lockheed Neptune Lockheed Shooting Star Lockheed Starfighter Lockheed Ventura Luton Minor Macchi C.202 Macchi C.205 Martin Baker M.B.5 Martin Baltimore Martin Marauder MBB Bo 105 McDonnell Banshee McDonnell Douglas Skyhawk McDonnell Phantom II Messerschmitt 108 - Taifun Messerschmitt 109 Messerschmitt 110 Messerschmitt 163 - Komet Messerschmitt 262 Messerschmitt 410 - Hornisse MIG-3 MIG-15 Mil-1 Mil-2 Mil-4 Miles 18 Miles 20 Miles 28 Miles 38 Miles 48 Miles Aerovan Miles Falcon Miles Gemini Miles Hawk Miles Hobby Miles Libellula Miles Magister Miles Martinet Miles Master Miles Mentor Miles Mohawk Miles Monarch Miles Monitor Miles Sparrowhawk Mitsubishi Betty Mitsubishi Dinah Mitsubishi Zeke - Zero Mooney M20 Morane-Saulnier 406 Morane-Saulnier Paris Morane-Saulnier Rallye Muntz Youngman-Baynes N.S.F.K. S.G.38 Nakajima Ki-84 Hayate (Frank) Nakajima Ki-43 Hayabusa (Oscar) Nipper III Noorduyn Norseman Nord 262A Nord Noralpha Nord Pingouin North American Harvard North American Mitchell North American Mustang North American Sabre North American Savage North American Super Sabre North American Texan Northrop Gamma Commercial Northrop Black Widow Northrop F-5 Orlikan Meta Sokol Percival Gull Percival Pembroke Percival Prentice Percival Proctor Percival Q6 Percival Vega Gull Petlyakov PE-2 Piaggio P.136 Piaggio P.166 Piasecki Retriever Piel Emeraude Pilatus Porter Piper Apache Piper Aztec Piper Comanche Piper Cub Piper Cub Special 90 Piper Grasshopper Piper Navajo Piper Pawnee Piper Seneca Piper Supercruiser Piper Tripacer Piper Cherokee Pitts Special Polikarpov I-15 Polikarpov I-16 Portsmouth Aerocar Major Reggiane 2000 Reggiane 2001 Reid & Sigrist Desford Republic Seabee Republic Lancer Republic Thunderbolt Republic Thunderjet Republic Thunderstreak Robin Royale Robinson R-22 Rollason Condor Ryan Fireball Saab 21 Saab 29 Saab 105 Saab Lansen Saab Safir Saunders-Roe P.531 Saunders-Roe Skeeter Saunders-Roe S.R./A.1 Savoia Marchetti SM79 - Sparviero Savoia Marchetti SM82 Savoia Marchetti SM95 Scheibe Motorspatz Schmetz Olympia-Meise Schneider Baby Grunau Scottish Aviation Bulldog Scottish Aviation Pioneer Scottish Aviation Twin Pioneer Short S.31 Short Sealand Short Skyvan Short Stirling Short Sturgeon SIAI-Marchetti S.F.260 Siebel Si 204 Sikorsky HRS Sikorsky R-4B Hoverfly Sikorsky R-6A Hoverfly II Sikorsky S-58T Sikorsky S-61 Sikorsky S-76 Sipa S.903 Slingsby Capstan Slingsby Kirby Cadet Slingsby Motor Tutor Slingsby Prefect Slingsby Swallow Slingsby T.21 Slingsby T.31 Socata Diplomate Stampe et Vertongen SV-4 Stearman Caydet - (sic) Stinson Junior R Stinson Reliant Stinson Sentinel Sud-Aviation Djinn Supermarine Attacker Supermarine S.24/37 DUMBO Supermarine Scimitar Supermarine Sea Otter Supermarine Seafang Supermarine Seafire Supermarine Seagull Supermarine Spiteful Supermarine Spitfire Supermarine Walrus SZD Bocian Taylorcraft Auster Taylor J.T.1 Monoplane Taylor J.T.2 Titch Thruxton Jackaroo Tipsy S.2 Tipsy Trainer Tipsy Type B Vertol 107 Vickers Valiant Vickers Vanguard Vickers VC10 Vickers Viking Vickers Viscount Vickers Warwick Vickers Wellington (Wellington VI) Vickers Windsor Vought-Sikorsky Chesapeake Vought-Sikorsky Kingfisher Vultee Vengeance Waco CG-3 Waco Hadrian Westland Aérospatiale Gazelle Westland Aerospatiale Lynx Westland Lysander Westland Sikorsky S-51 Dragonfly Westland Sikorsky S-55 Whirlwind Westland Wasp Westland Welkin Westland Wessex Westland Whirlwind Westland Wyvern (Eagle engine) Winter Zaunkönig - Wren Yakovlev-1 Yakovlev-9 Yakovlev-11 Youngman-Baynes High Lift Zlin Akrobat I think that I have 16 out of the 487 on that list. I'm actually rather proud of that slice of shared experience. But it puts my relative experience comfortably into perspective. If I was to pick one I'd like to add (albeit probably never will), I think it would be the Meteor. G |
He lived a long time but it seems incredible that any one individual could live long enough to have access to fly so many aircraft.
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2 planes
I have two planes he doesn't:
Yak 52 and Wilga!!! Make that 3: Cessna 182 isn't on the list either. |
It's a staggering list, including some I've never heard of.
G, I was doing a mental count as I read the list. I didn't see your total until I came to the end, so I wasn't consciously competing with you. ;) I've flown 19 of them. :ok: I must re-read my copy of Wings on my Sleeve. |
Obviously a competent, no, make that accomplished rotary pilot as well......!!
What a list..........!!! The shear diversity of it is amazing Taylor Monoplane to a VC10........!!! |
Ha! Recounted - match you at 19!
Now here's a whimsical thought. Given that nobody is ever likely to either match his record, nor to ever add some of those types to their logbook - is it an interesting measure of a pilot's experience to ask their "Brown number". The perfect score of 487 has only ever been achieved by one superlative aviator. Two of us here score 19. No types he hadn't flown count. I'd hazard a guess that a handful of people living are over 100. There are worse ways to mark somebody's memory G |
Depends a bit on one's age and therefore access to some older types - as more recent a/c don't count.
On that basis I have an advantage, but not in hours flown & it's taken me 47 years to pilot ten from his list then only at the very light end. However all done at my expense - no contributions from aviation employment or the RAF, etc. ! I should imagine his achievement is several multiples more than anyone else could match, even if one includes all a/c. mike hallam. |
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Just finished Wings on my Sleeve, his biography,highly recommended. Also worth noting is that for instance he only lists Spitfire,think he few around 16 Marks, sure this applies to a few other types. Must be one of the few pilots ( Allied and Axis) who went out of their way to fly the Me163 Komet,a spectacular but lethal (to the pilot in particular!). Incredible aviator.
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Interesting that four common as carrots a/c I've flown aren't on there, 152,172, 182 and Arrow. Mind you I suppose he was more of a miltary guy, and I doubt whether anyone will ever achieve that amazing number of aircraft again. He was national treasure. As ACW599 appositely said on the Mil Forum
How nice it would be if society understood the enormous difference between celebrity and attainment. |
I should imagine his achievement is several multiples more than anyone else could match, even if one includes all a/c. I can't offhand think of anybody else likely to have come close - maybe some of the old guard ex-military FAA Test Pilots like James Plackis? G |
Genghis the Engineer
I think that I have 16 out of the 487 on that list. Many of us, like you, have flown lots of light airplanes in our time. If I was to pick one I'd like to add (albeit probably never will), I think it would be the Meteor. |
FTE and Flight test observer for trials on the Hunter, Hawk, Jaguar and Tucano, and a fair range of military transports, tankers and helicopters, mission scientist or instrument operator on some large research aircraft. Solo - no, never claimed to. All my PiC time is civil, and at the lightweight end - albeit encompassing a few fairly interesting types, two which were never certified, and half a dozen first flights on new built aeroplanes. Solo test flying a rebuilt Auster Aiglet, which hadn't flown for over a decade, which is on his list.
But, I'd still like to fly the Meteor - it fascinates me as an aeroplane. Getting through the training and doing it PiC would be great, but observer with a competent pilot on type in a T bird would be a pretty fascinating second best. As I don't work for, or with, Martin Baker - the odds of either are sadly about nil, but a man can dream. Any particular point you were trying to prove there? G |
A 'No' would have answered my query.
The thread is about types flown as pilot not types flown in as a passenger. Any particular point you were trying to prove there? |
Only that "pilot", "pilot in command", "crew" and "passenger" are four different things.
I've used "crew"; I'm pretty certain that EB used "pilot" - point accepted, if you want to make it. Nobody was mentioning passenger flying that I was aware of. G |
Fantastically long list, which includes some truly incredible aircraft. Much to my surprise, I seem to have soloed a WWII-era Luftwaffe type that Eric didn't!
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Genghis
I'm pretty certain that EB used "pilot". - point accepted, if you want to make it. Why post all that information about things you have done whilst travelling in aircraft being flown by a pilot or two pilots? I've used crew. 'Crew' is far too wide in the context of this thread. Many military aircraft have crew other than pilots. So, for example, do civilian SAR helicopters, police helicopters and EMS aircraft. I assumed this thread was about types flown as P1 and/or as P2 in aircraft which require two pilots by civil or mil regulations. ie Where the time is properly loggable as P1 or P2. I think the reluctance so far of people to post the number of types they have flown is impressive. They haven't resorted to what is sometimes referred to on PPRuNe as a "willy waving" contest. |
Why would I want to fudge it FL? - because I've earned my living in a aircraft aeroplane in capacities other than pilot, and given the nature of the job, training, and reasons, I'm quite proud of that flying.
If anybody cares about my flying experience enough, as pilot (rather than FTE or MS) my score is 8. And I'd still love to have a Meteor in my logbook, in any capacity ! G |
Well, if that is EB's conclusive list, I have 4 which he didn't have. :p
Lance II Saratoga SP Cessna 310 Cessna 421 |
Aren't the Lance and the Saratoga both PA-32s? If they are, that makes them essentially the same. Eric flew about 14 different marks of Spitfire, and from what I've read the early Merlin-powered ones are very different from a Griffon-powered Mk22.
His list just says 'Spitfire'. Just sayin'. |
Yes, you're right, they are both PA32's albeit different animals in their flying characteristics, which I'm quite sure is the same for various Spitfire variants.
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Well, an early Spit has about 1000hp and weighs around 2,800kg all-up, whereas a Griffon-powered 24 has over 2000hp, weighs 4,500kg and the prop turns the other way - yet the list only says 'Spitfire' - that's my point.
And I'm guessing that the Saratoga and Lance aren't really that different, are they? |
Yeah, I'm waving my willy now (why can nobody see it?) :}
30 on his list (and even a few that aren't......but only a couple that are reasonably exciting) AND ex-RN too. We of the Senior Service must stick together :ok: Please, someone, let me fly a Corsair (and I don't mean the jet one either). |
I've always gone with the type certificate By which all PA28s are all the same type but the C150 and C152 are two different types. You win and lose, but it's a system.
Presumably EMwB was doing something similar given that he listed the Taylorcraft Auster and Auster Aiglet as two types, but all Spitfires as one. G |
Genghis
is it an interesting measure of a pilot's experience to ask their "Brown number" As mikehallam said earlier: Depends a bit on one's age and therefore access to some older types - as more recent a/c don't count. eg Those of us who belonged to the Tiger Club in the 80s (and perhaps later) will have time in the Tiger Moth, various Jodels and Stampe SV.4. Those who didn't are less likely to have flown a Tiger Moth, and far less likely to have flown either the SV.4 or any model of Jodel - unless they have lived in France or Belgium. Few people are likely to have flown the original Stampe et Vertongen SV.4 which Eric flew. Only about 30 were built before the company closed during WW2. Stampe et Renard renewed SV4 production after the war - as trainers for the Belgian Air Force - and others were built under licence in France by SNCAN. If I remember correctly, both the Tiger Club's Stampes were SNCAN aircraft. eg Right place right time, friends who own and/or fly rare types. I've been exceptionally lucky (for a PPL) in both those respects but it is not a meaningful indication of my experience as a pilot. I know people who've never flown anything other than s/e Pipers or Cessnas who have far greater experience as pilots than me. |
Having read his fascinating book and articles about the recently defeated Luftwaffe types I have always thought he was a truly remarkable man..As to the sheer number of types flown well it was helped a lot by the time -are there anything close to 400 plus types in the whole world now or even over the last 20 years. Flying them is one thing surviving, as more than a few were reputedly real widow makers, given the exigences of wartime and test flying in those days is even more remarkable
Its an oft over used phrased but 100% true of this gentleman -We will not see his like again PB |
There is a repeat of Captain Eric "Winkle" Brown story on BBC 2 at 1900, sure it will be on I player later.
J.J. |
What a fascinating list!
I read somewhere his favourites were the dH Sea Hornet and NA F-86 Sabre. |
On another forum I frequent someone asked whether he was the greatest pilot the UK had ever produced. I pointed out that given that he has the record for the most types flown I would say there's an argument that he's the greatest pilot the world has ever produced.
There's 486 on the list earlier in this thread. I'm only 480 behind! Cessna 150, 152, and 172 Piper PA38 and PA28 CAP 10b I guess I've a long way to go. People like him are truly inspiring. |
I keep seeing "one of the greatest", or "Britain's greatest" and absolutely agree.
I can think of one man only, whose contributions to aviation perhaps come close to Eric Brown's, and that's Neil Armstrong. But NA had a much shorter career, and put far less effort into sharing his lessons and experience. So, "World's greatest, ever" sits very well with me as a description of Eric Brown - I really don't think it needs qualifiers. G |
So, "World's greatest, ever" sits very well with me as a description of Eric Brown |
Come on Megan, a man who has achieved more for, and in, aviation than virtually anybody else has or will has died, and you are making an issue of a minor point of history about the design of two aircraft that the detail about, nowadays, is little more than a footnote. That is not "the world's greatest myth", that's a squabble between pedants, and given the circumstances - rude. That, whether you are right or wrong.
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a minor point of history Perhaps you missed where I wrote "a great man and pilot". I recognise his contributions, but the accolade "greatest" is up for debate. Scott Crossfield, Neil Armstrong, and many others could be up for the vote, particularly those that gave their lives in the furtherance of researching the limits, such as George Welch, Carl Kincheloe and Milburn Apt. |
The reasons for the design of the tailplane on one aircraft, however significant, is not a major point of history - in any case your opportunities to challenge him about it ended last week; as it was over his assertion that he saw Adolf Hitler shake Jessie Owen's hand, which also goes against what most historians say. This isn't the time or place.
I'd met Scott Crossfield, and followed the work of Neil Armstrong. Hard to say that either covered the breadth of Captain Brown's work, nor did as much to help the world learn from and use their experiences. They'd still be in the top 10 most significant test pilots in history however. Seriously if you have an investigative point to make - do what I occasionally do: write a paper for Journal of Aeronautical History, and let it go for full peer review. It's an interesting experience, and when published, those papers matter. But criticising a great man a week after he'd died, when there was adequate opportunity to challenge him directly, strikes me as inappropriate. G |
G,
Just for fun, I've added my "Brown Number" to my location. Without wishing to stir the pot too much, I have often wondered how many of Winkle's types were PIC? If I had to only count types I had flown solo, my score of 19 would be significantly reduced. Obviously, flights in things like the Komet and Spitfire were PIC, but I wonder about types like the B-17, B-29, Vanguard and VC-10, for example. |
Certainly when I worked for MoD in flight test, test pilots assessing an aeroplane always logged P1, regardless of what seat they were in, and regardless of how many pilots were logging P1!
So, left and right hand seat, both TPs, both logging P1 - entirely in accordance with JSP318. (For the avoidance of doubt, my military flying was either as a cadet pilot in a Bulldog, or a Flight Test Observer which is logged crew, but another column in the logbook altogether.) G |
"So, left and right hand seat, both TPs, both logging P1 - entirely in accordance with JSP318."
You'll have to pardon my ignorance, but to me that simply doesn't make sense. Were they both in command? If so that is extraordinarily bad practice, IMHO of course. |
Only one was officially captain and making those "boss" decisions, both logged P1 for experience purposes.
Not unlike, I suppose, somebody passing a skill test in an SEP. It's just how it was done. G |
Hmmm, seems a little bit like 'padding' ones logbook to me! Surely the aircraft commander/captain logs P1, and unless the other pilot is actually being tested, they're P2? I'm sure we'd all take a pretty dim view of such practices in the GA world.
Edited to add;- I've just discussed this with a very experienced aviator, and he said (and I quote) "if you were the aircraft commander you log P1, and if you logged the flight as P1 then you were the aircraft commander. ANYTHING else is nonsense, as the aircraft cannot have two commanders!" |
You can go and tell the chaps at Boscombe Down that - I'm not. And for all I know it's changed in the last 20 years - but it was definitely the case in the 90s when I was flying out of there.
G |
Hmmm, seems a little bit like 'padding' ones logbook to me! During an initial instrument rating course at a flying school, there are specific minimum instrument hours required. At the completion of the course the CFI or equivalent stamps and certifies the log book of the candidate. Part of that certification includes cross referencing the hours logged by the pilot as against flying school records of his training. Once that pilot has left the training world into the real world of commercial flying, he can log what he likes and frequently gets away with it, because there are no more audits of his log book. For example how can you audit instrument flight time claimed as in cloud? You cannot. Take the case of one captain who flew from Brisbane to Melbourne in a Boeing 737. Apart from initial take off until short final the flight was on autopilot and in gin clear fine weather. On arrival Melbourne as his co-pilot was making out the trip record (which was subject to a standard CASA audit), the captain said "Oh! Put me down for three hours instrument flying time for instrument currency." The F/O astonished, replied "But we were never in IMC." "Do as you are told" replied the captain. He knew his cheating could never be proved. Fake logging of instrument flight time, which includes logging of command time when clearly the pilot concerned was the support pilot only, is wide spread. But whichever way you regard it, it is blatant cheating and dishonest. Earlier I mentioned it happening in the civilian world. I don't know about present day practices in the military, but during my 18 years of military flying, pilots were required to have their log books checked for accuracy every month and signed by a certifying officer. Every six months the pilot was required to submit a six-monthly flying return which was checked with his log book by internal audit. It was unheard of to log false hours. In the airline world, it would be rare to see regulatory audit of log book claimed hours. For some pilots, logging of true co-pilot time is seen as degrading. Instead the situation often exists where a co-pilot is given a "leg" by the captain and logs that leg as in command under supervision rather than log it as co-pilot time in the co-pilot column. In command under supervision is regarded by some as superior quality flying hours versus mundane co-pilot hours. A trifle pathetic, don't you think? That said, each State regulatory authority may mandate how hours must be recorded in a pilot's log book. |
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