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Helicopterdriverguy 12th February 2016 21:04

Pace
 

On a recent stop at a northern airfield they told me the landing fee was double if I wore a hi-viz, and double again if I wore bars.
I think I know where that is, does the name start with Br? :D

Maoraigh1 12th February 2016 21:12

There's a difference between yellow jackets and bars/stripes. I don't wear one in the cockpit -and have got out forgetting to put one on. I once even tried to go out to get another can of EN228 from the car without one. I almost said "Sorry Mummy" to the rather attractive brunette who gave me a row like I hadn't had since pre- teenage. For those of us using commercial airfields they are essential. And outside they don't distinguish us from Court Ordered Community Service Litter Pickers. Except my one is oil stained, and there's are pristine clean.

FREDAcheck 12th February 2016 21:51



On a recent stop at a northern airfield they told me the landing fee was double if I wore a hi-viz, and double again if I wore bars.
I think I know where that is, does the name start with Br?
Yes!

(and another line of rubbish to make the message more than 10 characters, or PPRUNE won't post it)

Shaggy Sheep Driver 13th February 2016 09:33

It's not just Br. Lots of sensible airfields, those not 'up themselves', are like this.

Pace 13th February 2016 09:54


On a recent stop at a northern airfield they told me the landing fee was double if I wore a hi-viz, and double again if I wore bars.
I think I know where that is, does the name start with Br?

HDG

You referred the above quoted area to me :ok: It was not my post


Think its simple really you should wear a uniform only where you are required to do so. So if you are flying an aircraft where the people paying you to fly require you to be uniformed then do so.

They maybe some trendy company and tell you to fly with jeans and a company logo T-shirt. If thats what they want thats what you do.

In certain areas of the world you maybe required to wear a uniform to facilitate your movements around the airport environment then do so.
The key words are "required to do so"

If your not required to do so its your choice to wear bars and a uniform but don't think you will get admiring glances if it happens to be a Cessna 150 or most especially SE pistons

Here is a pilot wearing a uniform and I am sure the pilot would not get admiring glances :E

http://thumb7.shutterstock.com/displ...l-64412926.jpg

Pace

Jonzarno 13th February 2016 10:44

Yes she would: she's wearing bras..... :O

Pace 13th February 2016 11:01

Jonzarno

I have no problem with her uniform but if she was flying for me I would insist she took the Bras off :E sorry meant bars off ;)

As for Hi viz jackets? scoured google and cannot see anything cool about wearing them! Awful invention

Pace

Romeo Tango 13th February 2016 11:13

When flying my spamcan outside Europe/SA/Aussie/USA I dress up like a real pilot with blue trousers, white shirt, bars etc.

I do remember on one trip in the mid 1980s I issued the girl traveling with me with uniform and bars (some number less than 4). This caused much consternation in the middle east as they did not know how to treat her, in one desert kingdom they solved the problem by locking her up while I refueled.

Jonzarno 13th February 2016 11:41

Pace

I agree: your crew example has absolutely no need for a hi-vis jacket :O

Pace 13th February 2016 11:49


I agree: your crew example has absolutely no need for a hi-vis jacket
Agree in this case she would want as least attention from pilots motoring around the airport transfixed as possible ! A yellow hi viz would only make matters worse and increase collision risk

Pace

mike172 13th February 2016 14:11

Can't say I've ever seen a private pilot wearing bars or any sort of uniform. Jeans and t shirt for me every time and that seems to hold true for every other pilot I've seen climbing into a Cessna or the like.

If I took a mate flying and rocked up with gold bars on my shoulders the abuse I'd receive would be endless. And deserved.

mike172 13th February 2016 14:15

On the subject of hi-vis jackets I make a point of not wearing one wherever I go. If I walk across to the clubhouse and someone kicks off then what are they going to do? Make me do the perilous walk back across the airfield without a hi-vis to grab one? I'd be killed instantly, surely!

Katamarino 13th February 2016 14:28


On the subject of hi-vis jackets I make a point of not wearing one wherever I go. If I walk across to the clubhouse and someone kicks off then what are they going to do? Make me do the perilous walk back across the airfield without a hi-vis to grab one? I'd be killed instantly, surely!
I came across a jobsworth at Oxford who would not allow people back onto the apron to reach their aircraft unless they bought a hi-vis from him there and then.

wsmempson 13th February 2016 15:24

I keep a dayglo green Borat Mankini in my flight bag for just such a jobsworth; I plan to use it the next time I go to Exeter, where similar lunacy is insisted.

Jonzarno 13th February 2016 15:36


Quote:
I agree: your crew example has absolutely no need for a hi-vis jacket
Agree in this case she would want as least attention from pilots motoring around the airport transfixed as possible ! A yellow hi viz would only make matters worse and increase collision risk

Pace
I can't think why, but this reminds me that I've been meaning to ask if the Cirrus you flew recently had the built in air bags? :)

FREDAcheck 13th February 2016 17:27


Half expecting a discussion on pilot footwear next
Footwear? No way. But watches, now there's the thing. Real pilots wear Proper (i.e. expensive) Pilot Watches.

Me, I have a cheapo watch and a digital stopwatch (£5 from Argos - yes, I admit it, I've been into Argos) that I keep in case I ever need it for IMC timed legs, but then I'm obviously not a Real Pilot.

Pace 13th February 2016 17:57

Had a Breitling but hated it as could never read it properly then it flooded scuba diving after I had it opened in an unauthorised repair shop
Now got a TAG with a blue face and waterproof strap ( blue ) which is actually an Omega strap on my TAG watch :ok:
Would love an Omega Seamaster but at £5K no way

For your information phone is an apple I phone 6 and would be lost without it )

Pace

FLCH 13th February 2016 18:50

I had a sort of inverse situation with flying suits and badges.
Picture a group of men in their 20-40's freshly hired at a US carrier going through DC-10 groundschool about 30 years ago.
It's Saturday we're hungover a few puke splashes remain on our shirts from last nights drinking.
We fell behind the schedule for INS training, due to the sim being broken, our former Navy instructor insisted we come out to class on the weekend, so we could make up the schedule.
During the past weeks we had no doubt our instructor was ex-military and a Navy pilot he said all the right things and had some good stories but never made clear he was on an actual aircraft.
He turns up replete with flight suit and jacket badges all over the place. We tried to pay attention but were distracted by the costume as he tried to teach us the basics of inertial navigation systems.
Come to find out eventually once we were flying and on the line, he was a member of a crash crew fire rescue squad on a Navy ship.
Nice enough guy in his later years, but boy did he take himself too seriously !

clareprop 13th February 2016 19:31


Half expecting a discussion on pilot footwear next.
Sensible shoes are important but for me, a nice pair of calf-skin flying gloves are a must.

FullWings 13th February 2016 20:03

It’s a personal decision, unless mandated, so basically like anything else to do with fashion. Some have style, some...

Probably the most extreme example I’ve seen was in an airport restaurant where the staff wore stripes, the number depending on whether they were the junior waiter, front-of-house or chef! It certainly led to a bit of confusion as there were pilots dressed in a similar manner eating at the establishment!


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