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Evanelpus 11th February 2016 08:36

There is nothing that says knob more than the pilot of a Cessna 150 climbing out of the aircraft wearing bars.

C'mon men, sort yourselves out.:rolleyes:

rnzoli 11th February 2016 09:32


Originally Posted by piperboy84 (Post 9266292)
Looks like I need to sew some stripes and wings on my John Deere boilersuit !

From Wikipedia

Rank/insignia Epaulettes Wings
pre-solo student no stripes no wings
post-solo student one stripe wings
private pilot license holder pursuing commercial license two stripes wings
commercial pilot license holder pursuing instructor's rating or ATPL three stripes wings
flight instructor three stripes wings
chief flight instructor or examiner four stripes wings

I think this is relevant to professional flight schools that are training future ATPL holders. But not for recreational flying? :p

tmmorris 11th February 2016 09:37


Originally Posted by rnzoli (Post 9266376)
I think this is relevant to professional flight schools that are training future ATPL holders. But not for recreational flying? :p

Indeed. And what's with wings for solo flight anyway? In the military you don't even get them for EFT which is beyond PPL level.

I have to admit when I got my PPL I briefly flirted with wings badges but now I can't even bring myself to wear my AOPA silver wings badge even though I worked for it.

I do own a black nylon jacket with 'pilot' on it but my excuse is I got it cheap in a closing down sale at Halton...

rnzoli 11th February 2016 09:56

This incident could have been avoided, if they all wear the right bars! :}

Shaggy Sheep Driver 11th February 2016 14:10

I've never worn race overalls but last time I donned a flying suit it took a few seconds to wriggle into over my normal clothes. So I agree with Small Rodent Driver - take your flying suit with you in the spammy and put it on before flying the proper aeroplane!

To wear it in the 182 would be, as I say, like wearing your race gear to the shops.

In saying this I am merely making an observation, not propounding some sort of religion. So it's not me who has the problem in making the observation (which is widely shared, BTW), it's the chap who feels the need to dress up as an airline captain to fly a 182 (excepting, as I say, those whose jobs mandate that). He's probably feeling the need to compensate for a lack somewhere.

S-Works 11th February 2016 18:38

Blimey, all I get is a company logo fleece top, polo shirt and a !!!! hotel room.......

MaxR 11th February 2016 18:54

There's a book for you guys:


DeltaV 11th February 2016 19:03

[thread drift] Not bars but there is a middling pilot near here who has been seen in the local Tesco togged out in his flying club Hi-vis jacket, replete with club name and regalia.
Needy or what? [/thread drift]

Genghis the Engineer 11th February 2016 22:07

Now there's a question - where's the worst place to wear a hi-viz? The supermarket, the cockpit, anywhere indoors???

G

TRPGpilot 11th February 2016 22:14

I wear them. When I feel like it. in an old c172 doing flying with my mates from work. Guess that makes me a **** then? Luckily I am not one to be unduly concerned about others opinion on such matters. Aviation is filled with stuffy old geriatrics and is slowly dying out. If someone spends £10k to learn to fly as a PPL and wants to wear 4 gold bars and a white shirt who is ANYONE to say that they should not?

Chesty Morgan 11th February 2016 22:14


Originally Posted by Katamarino (Post 9266021)
In that case, I suggest not giving a toss what some faceless bloke on the internet calling himself "Shaggy Sheep Driver" thinks! :ok: As mentioned earlier, those who feel the need to look down at people for what could be perfectly sensible clothes for the situation probably have a bit of a problem themselves...

Especially as they consider themselves to be a superior pilot just because they wear different clothes.

cavortingcheetah 11th February 2016 22:24

These days, if you wear bars outside of a rank designated flight operation, you might be thought of as a cross dresser?

onetrack 12th February 2016 02:32

It always pays to remember - when they are cutting you out of your crashed aircraft - the medics will also cut off all the clothing that is covering your injuries - and that could mean your glorious bars ending up in the dirt, and being trampled on, by all and sundry - and with you being transported into ER, as just another barely-dressed, hapless, injury patient!! :{ :ooh:

Small Rodent Driver 12th February 2016 05:06


If someone spends £10k to learn to fly as a PPL and wants to wear 4 gold bars and a white shirt who is ANYONE to say that they should not?
The fashion police perhaps? :)

Hawker 800 12th February 2016 05:35

Wearing epaullettes is a no no for a PPL in my opinion. The rule I abide by is if they form part of a uniform, you wear them. PPL's don't have uniforms. End of.

In as far as walking around town wearing them, well that's another story. That says more about the person wearing them than anything. The first thing I do when I finish a duty and my pax are away is put them in my top pocket.

Hawker 800 12th February 2016 05:44

Genghis

I can't stand seeing crews wear hi-vis in the cockpit. Maybe they should burn one as a demo and see what happens.

Small Rodent Driver 12th February 2016 05:47

Apologies if I have offended anybody by taking the p*ss out of those who like to wear epaullettes, gold bars or military garb for flying.

I guess it stems from my rather unhappy childhood where money was scarce and my mother would shop for my school clothing in the local Army and Navy store.

You have no idea what it was like going to school dressed as a Japanese Admiral!

wsmempson 12th February 2016 07:09

The worst place to be seen in a high viz tabbard is by the fuel pumps; all that nylon and polyester is a serious generator of static electricity and is a real fire hazard.

On the subject of bars and gold braid, there is a rule at White Waltham that anyone who rocks up at the bar wearing the aforementioned, has to buy a round of drinks for everyone there. I think that there is an exemption for the BBMF pilots when they drop in for fuel....

flydive1 12th February 2016 07:26


Originally Posted by onetrack (Post 9267274)
It always pays to remember - when they are cutting you out of your crashed aircraft - the medics will also cut off all the clothing that is covering your injuries - and that could mean your glorious bars ending up in the dirt, and being trampled on, by all and sundry - and with you being transported into ER, as just another barely-dressed, hapless, injury patient!! :{ :ooh:

Yes, that would be my first concern if I was badly injured in a crash:rolleyes::rolleyes:

I guess you always travel(pax or crew) in old dirty clothes just in case;)

Pace 12th February 2016 07:27

Hi viz jackets I hate and have often thrown one over my one shoulder just to comply then dump it as soon as possible :E

In the fashion industry Yellow is a very difficult colour to wear and look good in unless you are sporting a deep summer tan.

Yellow is known to draw colour from the face making you look paler than you already are.

So not at all a good colour for the He man pilot to wear.

If you want to look like a fried egg gone wrong wear a Hi Viz :ok:

Of course for the complete image with the white shirt and bars don't forget the Ray Bans ? but remember if they are coloured ray bans you will instantly be a colour blind pilot
Beware wearing the dark variety as many pilots wearing them on dark overcast days have been known to walk into propellers as they cannot see where they are going! but again a very important fashion assesory

Pilot uniforms walking through Gatwick as an airline pilot will get admiring glances from passengers who put their lives in the hands of these sky gods!

They also look good worn by the biz jet jockeys seen by many as the hot ship airliners of the sky but in a Cessna 150 ? Or SEP ? Somehow it has a negative "look at that dick head "impression

On the few biz jet ferry flights I have done especially in the USA with no PAX it actually feels quite cool and relaxed to jump in wearing jeans and a TShirt

Pace


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