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Whopity 22nd October 2012 21:58

You can fly Annex II on the EASA licence so no need to pay £35. In any case as you have stated you already have a lifetime UK licence so why would you need another?

robin 22nd October 2012 22:15

Scary, isn't it that a simplification of the licencing system has turned out to be so complicated

Shoestring Flyer 23rd October 2012 08:19

UKPPL to EASA PPL=£65
The calculator then asks if you need to fly an Annexe 2 aircraft and says you need to tick Yes if you do and it then adds £35 to the total. That is the issue.
So obviously to fly both the total is £100.

I tried calling the CAA yesterday for clarification of the above and also the seemingly extra cost for conversion of the RT licence. Unfortunately all I got was a recorded message saying they are not taking any calls until the end of Novemebr due to their heavy workload and 25day turnround of licences!....

robin 23rd October 2012 10:40

The calculator is wrong - :ok:

PA28181 23rd October 2012 10:50

It is not rocket science.......................

UKppl lifetime to Easa ppl lifetime =£65 End of.

There is no charge to keep the licence you already have...........................

There is no charge for the F.R.T.O.L

There is no charge for the Night Rating etc, etc,

Stop guessing and go and do it........................

PS: I did it.

Whopity 23rd October 2012 11:00

The EASA Principles make it look more ridiculous:

(b) to facilitate the free movement of goods, persons and
services;
(c) to promote cost-efficiency in the regulatory and certification
processes and to avoid duplication at national and
European level;
(d) to assist Member States in fulfilling their obligations under
the Chicago Convention, by providing a basis for a
common interpretation and uniform implementation of
its provisions, and by ensuring that its provisions are duly
taken into account in this Regulation and in the rules drawn
up for its implementation;
(e) to promote Community views regarding civil aviation
safety standards and rules throughout the world by
establishing appropriate cooperation with third countries
and international organisations;
(f) to provide a level playing field for all actors in the internal
aviation market.

3. The means of achieving the objectives set out in paragraphs 1
and 2 shall be:
(a) the preparation, adoption and uniform application of all
necessary acts;
(b) the recognition, without additional requirements, of
certificates, licences, approvals or other documents granted
to products, personnel and organisations in accordance
with this Regulation and its implementing rules;
Where did it all go Wrong?

robin 23rd October 2012 11:02

The lawyers and 'crats' got involved....:ugh:

Shoestring Flyer 23rd October 2012 17:52

'The calculator is wrong - http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ies/thumbs.gif'

Well assuming the CAA's charge calculator is wrong what chance do we stand of them getting the rest of the changeover process right?

robin 23rd October 2012 20:08

The CAA are stating they are proud to be early adopters. Most other NAAs are delaying to the maximum.

Consequently they are bound to screw up legislation as they haven't had time to fully digest the implications

Look, for example, about the new requirement to email the CAA naming the examiner and not being permitted to take a skills test without confirmation from the CAA. This one is dated one month AFTER the 17th Sept changeover.

They are looking to see how to implement this, but shirley, they would have been better waiting to go through the requirements to see how the French dealt with it.

Maoraigh1 24th October 2012 21:10


PS: I did it
Pa28181 - is your new licence number the same as your old one? It would be great for those of us with dependant US licences if it was.

Whopity 24th October 2012 22:42

The licence number is tied to your personal reference number which will remain the same.

PA28181 25th October 2012 12:00

Maoraigh1.

Yes, as already said the licence (CAA Reference Number) is the same, but with "GBR" tagged on the front, shouldn't be a prob with the FAA but you never know....

robin500 29th July 2013 11:24

New PPL
 
Hi once i have sent my new ppl licience off how long will it take to come back as my licience please , thanyou


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