££Cost of the new EASA PPL££??
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££Cost of the new EASA PPL££??
Hi can someone help, I'm filling in the application for a Part-FCL PPL; gonna enclose a cheque but for how much?
I'm sure it doesn't say on the form. I could be going word blind, this form is a pain.
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I'm sure it doesn't say on the form. I could be going word blind, this form is a pain.
Cheers
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Mines a new one so I get stung for £191 like guyleedsutd said. Suppose it's a drop in the ocean when you stack it up against the cost of all the training etc. Cheaper flying from here on in!
....did it go up after the EASA applications came in?
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to get the value from the "horse's mouth" see
FCL Fee Calculator for holders, or applicants of UK Issued Flight Crew Licences | Pilots | Personal Licences and Training
FCL Fee Calculator for holders, or applicants of UK Issued Flight Crew Licences | Pilots | Personal Licences and Training
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'It's only £73 for a change of licence (ie from UK PPL to EASA PPL) '
Don't think so...
£65 for UK-EASA change + £73 for RT Licence (which only lasts 10years!!) + another £35 if you choose to fly an Annex 2 aircraft).
It is the RT licence which according to the scheme of charges only last 10years I find particularly annoying.
Don't think so...
£65 for UK-EASA change + £73 for RT Licence (which only lasts 10years!!) + another £35 if you choose to fly an Annex 2 aircraft).
It is the RT licence which according to the scheme of charges only last 10years I find particularly annoying.
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£65 for UK-EASA change + £73 for RT Licence (which only lasts 10years!!) + another £35 if you choose to fly an Annex 2 aircraft).
I hadn't realised we needed to pay for a radio licence for a UK-PPL - EASA PPL. That one is new to me. The CAA checklist indicates that radio comes under national rules, so I assume as I have a UK-PPL non-expiring licence, my radio licence will remain as it is without a 10year expiry
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Robin...I would like to think you were right but I have my doubts...
If you follow the charges calculator down it asks if you are going to fly and Annexe 2 aircraft and then automatically adds £35 to the calculation.
The Radio telephony licence, is confusing because it is a Rating on your licence and you need to therefore add it (£73). Then if you look in the scheme of charges it says that a RT licence only lasts for 10years!
Confusing or what!
If you follow the charges calculator down it asks if you are going to fly and Annexe 2 aircraft and then automatically adds £35 to the calculation.
The Radio telephony licence, is confusing because it is a Rating on your licence and you need to therefore add it (£73). Then if you look in the scheme of charges it says that a RT licence only lasts for 10years!
Confusing or what!
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Thats very strange. I was under the impression that a Part-FCL licence entitles you to fly Annex 2 aircraft.
From http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/2330/g-May2012_v6.pdf 1.5
The exception is for type ratings, as you can't add a type rating for a non-EASA aircraft to a Part-FCL licence so you need the piggyback national licence...
Also see http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/2330/h-FAQs%20May%202012.pdf part 39.
How are they justifying the extra charge?
I'm sure there are more up to date references that someone else can find (I've not got into the ANO / Cap...
From http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/2330/g-May2012_v6.pdf 1.5
1.5 The 2012 amendment of the Air navigation Order renders EASA licences with the appropriate class rating to be valid for UK-registered non-EASA aircraft within those classes; thereby avoiding the need for the holder of an EASA PPL(A) with SEP rating to also hold a national licence in order to fly an amateur-built aeroplane or a Tigermoth, for example...
Also see http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/2330/h-FAQs%20May%202012.pdf part 39.
How are they justifying the extra charge?
I'm sure there are more up to date references that someone else can find (I've not got into the ANO / Cap...
I hadn't realised we needed to pay for a radio licence for a UK-PPL - EASA PPL. That one is new to me
2 Except where the applicant is the holder of a licence issued by the UK CAA to act as pilot,
flight navigator or flight engineer.
flight navigator or flight engineer.
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This is cheeky:
Ratings check on a re-issued EASA Flight Crew Licence
Upon such application that would require an existing EASA Flight Crew Licence to be reissued, the applicant shall pay to the CAA a charge of £20 for all existing ratings associated with that licence to be checked for currency of validity.
Therefore to add an RT rating to a licence, it would actually cost you the extra £20 as well - so £99 rather than £79.
Ratings check on a re-issued EASA Flight Crew Licence
Upon such application that would require an existing EASA Flight Crew Licence to be reissued, the applicant shall pay to the CAA a charge of £20 for all existing ratings associated with that licence to be checked for currency of validity.
Therefore to add an RT rating to a licence, it would actually cost you the extra £20 as well - so £99 rather than £79.
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Correct - which makes this especially cheeky.
Adding a new radio licence to your Part-FCL licence (which, to be honest, isn't a common thing to do as I suspect 99% of people will have it on there when they get their licence initially) involves the CAA re-issuing the licence.
When they re-issue a licence, they do a ratings check, costing you £20 extra...
Adding a new radio licence to your Part-FCL licence (which, to be honest, isn't a common thing to do as I suspect 99% of people will have it on there when they get their licence initially) involves the CAA re-issuing the licence.
When they re-issue a licence, they do a ratings check, costing you £20 extra...
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As mentioned by Whopity, there is no charge for the issue of an FRTOL where the applicant is the holder of a licence issued by the UK CAA to act as pilot,
flight navigator or flight engineer.
flight navigator or flight engineer.
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Fair enough - I see the note in the PDF version of the scheme of charges.
The online calculator says (and thats after telling it you have a licence) that you need to pay if you have a JAR licence, and you have to pay an additional £20 if you have an EASA licence.
Also the flow chart only mentions an exemption for initial issue of the licence.
Clear as mud, as always. Always happy to be corrected- thanks wb9999..
The online calculator says (and thats after telling it you have a licence) that you need to pay if you have a JAR licence, and you have to pay an additional £20 if you have an EASA licence.
Also the flow chart only mentions an exemption for initial issue of the licence.
Clear as mud, as always. Always happy to be corrected- thanks wb9999..
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Nothing with the CAA is clear, and the pricing is too complicated. I recently renewed an expired SEP rating (expired more than 5 years), replaced my JAR PPL with an EASA PPL and renewed my expired FRTOL. I had no idea how much I was going to cost me. I was expecting £73. I wasn't expecting to be charged for th SEP renewal, but at least the FRTOL was free.
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I've got £65 for convertion of a CAA lifetime to an EASA, not allowing Annex 2, but £65 + £35 if I need to fly Annex2. Or is this only if the Annex2 required a type rating?