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Mark1234 29th October 2010 13:00

Differences training required?
 
Slightly unusually, I have a JAA PPL with the skills test done in a wobbly prop tailwheel. That was done as a conversion based on having an ICAO (australian) PPL with CSU and tailwheel endorsements, and a bunch of time on nose and tailwheels.

So, if I want to fly a nosewheel in JAA land, do I need differences training?
I'm assuming I don't need differences 'signed off' for tailwheel/CSU as they're what I got the PPL on - i.e. not a difference..

Lasors just has me puzzled!

BillieBob 29th October 2010 15:53

Differences training is required if you haven't flown the relevant variant (e.g. fixed pitch, nosewheel SEP) in the last 2 years. JAR-FCL 1.235(c) refers.

Mark1234 1st November 2010 10:31

Thanks for the reply, looks like I've resolved the question externally. However for the record, JAR-FCL 1.235(c) doesn't apply for SEP, nor does it address the implicit assumption that one has gained ones license on a nosewheel, fixed prop a/c. Why do I always have to be different...

Piper.Classique 1st November 2010 13:50

I don't think you are all that different.....I make sure to do a couple of hours a year on the club's robins so as not to be moithered. Mind, as my cub is annexe II, it looks like I am going to have to make that twelve hours in future, on top of the 100 or so in the cub :ugh:

BillieBob 1st November 2010 17:52


However for the record, JAR-FCL 1.235(c) doesn't apply for SEP
For the record, JAR-FCL 1.235(c) does apply to SEP - read it. It may, however, be the case that your licensing authority has decided to ignore the requirements in respect of SEP which, until the EASA implementing rules become law, it is quite at liberty to do. Whilst JAR-FCL 1.235(c) may not address the fact that experience is gained on other than a nosewheel fixed pitch prop, the Licence Endorsement List in JAR A&GM does.

tinpilot 1st November 2010 20:10


JAR-FCL 1.235(c) does apply to SEP - read it
OK then:

(c) Variants. If the variant has not been flown within a period of 2 years following the differences training, further differences training
or a proficiency check in that variant will be required except for types or variants within the SEP class rating.
It seems to me that that paragraph specifically excludes the SEP rating.

What's more, that paragraph does not state that if you haven't flown a variant for two years, you will need to repeat differences training.


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