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Toebrake 19th October 2000 13:02

Lottery Twins and Other Playthings
 
I was doing the "When I win the lottery" daydream the other day and decided, WHEN I win, I would like a nice Twin for touring with the family and some kind of Warbird/Aerobatic plaything for thrasing about in the sky. Then I would get a helicopter PPL (Just for fun)

First Question What is the biggest/Best and most practical twin on a PPL?

What Would you do?... I"m sure you've had the same dream

FNG 19th October 2000 15:34

The two choices have to be:-

(1) Late model Beaufighter, preferably with the anti-shipping cannon for clearing dawdling C150s out of the circuit.

(2) Mk IX Spittie with two-stage supercharger and the immediate-postwar "Laddie Lucas" wing-mod (This involves taking the guns out and replacing them with several bottles of champagne).

Seriously though, instead of a twin, why not get one of those super-mega fast singles with big long noses that you see parked around places (Rockwell Commander or something). What's the point of assymetric thrust?

New Bloke 19th October 2000 18:34

When I was youmger the answer "Spitfire" would have been the only one you would have got from me. Now, well, somthing with leather seats, a good auto-pilot, room for the family, good performance. I think a kingair 200 would do me fine for a couple of years until I felt ready to move on to the Citation.
As for fun, a tiger moth or Stampe

FNG 19th October 2000 20:36

Choose Stampe ahead of Tiger, because at least with two sets of ailerons instead of the Tiger's one you have some chance of actually turning in the direction you are banking (by no means a foregone conclusion in a Tiger). If money is no object, however, and you want something that you can get more hours in than, say a P-51 or Spit, then a Yak 11 looks pretty fab for around the 100K mark. I watched Mark Jeffries beating the **** out of RFC Bourn in one of these a few months ago. Looks great, sounds great, and is said to have a wondrous power to weight ratio and real WW2 fighter handling characteristics. If you break it, you can get another one, whereas if you break your Spifire, you will blub a lot and all the anoraks (me included) will hate you for writing off one of the wonder machines.

Beagler 19th October 2000 23:49

Hawker Hunter, period

flickoff 20th October 2000 00:43

Hunter, aerobatic? what happens if you tailslide a Hunter?

If we are doing the Walter Mitty stuff, how about a Pitts with a PT6 up front?


Fly low, speak to no one

slider 20th October 2000 12:22

Pitts Super Stinker -("evolved" Pitts Special - on acid) hangared next to a big fat house in the states, with a hot tub and Bud fridge - in the hangar!

You gotta have a dream

Beagler 20th October 2000 23:13

slider... which 4WD pick up would you have to complete the picture?

Skylark4 21st October 2000 04:06

Dragon Rapide and a Miles Aerovan for when I wanted to take the car as well. Don`t think there`s any of them left now though.

Mike W

DB6 21st October 2000 22:00

I reckon a Me110 would make a cracking tourer if you stuck a couple of lockers in it somewhere.

LowNSlow 22nd October 2000 02:36

A Beech 18 would make me happy. Taildragger twin with round engines, lovely. A snip at £80k. For playtime a Nanchang CJ6(Chinese deveopment of the Yak-52 with proper putaway wheels). Finally, for sunny Sundays a Bucker Jungmeister. All those round engines, what a dream. Rushes off to check lottery ticket and pour another glass of wine in anticipation

Toebrake 22nd October 2000 02:53

Guess what??

Posting this has changed my luck, Three numbers....WOOO HOOO

That should buy me about 6 min in the club Warrior.

Well it's a start!!



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Backtrack if required

LowNSlow 25th October 2000 01:25

Or 30 minutes in a Cub. Stops to think, ah yes, same distance travelled :)

twistedenginestarter 29th October 2000 02:14

Go for the Eclipse 500 6 seat twin jet. At approx 550k it is dirt cheap to run apparently, and you're up in Class B before the hostie has got her clothes off.

Down side is the waiting list is something like 4 years.

But I can wait...

Shaggy Sheep Driver 2nd November 2000 16:07

It's got to be a Spitfire, a Mk9, that would come out on special occasions. But for everyday aviating and an ability to take a passenger I'd have my *own* Yak 52. And a Yak 50 (Mark Hanna's all time favourite, I beleive) because with the same motor as the 52 but only 1 seat they must go extremely well. And that single cockpit just on the wing trailing edge must be great for aeros.

SSD

Beagler 3rd November 2000 00:31

Okay guys... found the ultimate lottery plane...The Grob Egrett (see this month's Pilot)

Blow the lot on this if only for the crack of calling that prickly lot at Stansted...
"Grob overhead Old Buckenham Flight Level 500, requesting straight in approach"
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Floppy Link 8th November 2000 00:57

Cub
CitationJet (525)
P51
Jet Ranger

not necessarily in that order

New Bloke 8th November 2000 13:59

I’ve been thinking about this again, I really really would like a Spitfire the only trouble is I don’t want to fly it around the TMA at 2400’ in an inversion layer.

I want to jump into it after the fitter has warmed the engine, and with my mates go roaring off into the dawn sky. I would be wearing one of those cool leather helmets with the goggles atop my Forehead. I would also have a Mae-West, a parachute, and Irvine boots. We would be vectored to somewhere over Tunbridge Wells at Angels 18 and would be having our eyes skinned for enemy A/C.

“Tallyho” would shout the S/L and we would dive into the melee below.

After landing from the last sortie, we would jump into my ageing jalopy and head of to the White Horse in Brasted where I would chalk my name on the blackboard.

On days off we would go up to London and I would have my top button undone…….

I think I had better stop there, actually all of the above is why I started flying in the first place. As I get older I realise that the horror of War is so unlike the romance I have described above, but I guess I am still a bit of a romantic at heart.

arrow2 8th November 2000 18:56

A brand spanking new New Generation TB20, full IFR kit with the rating to go with it and a little house in Provence with its own 1000 metre strip.

My dreams are easily pleased!! Or am I being unadventurous????

arrow2

Shaggy Sheep Driver 8th November 2000 19:14

New Boy

That does it for me ;~)

SSD

rightstuffer 9th November 2000 02:07

NewBloke - my boy!
I think we can get you started nicely..... I have this old wicker armchair that leans back a treat. I'm open to offers....
Then theres a really nice bakelite telephone; a genuine TANNOY speaker and a pot of 1942 Brylcreem, and.....

PilotsPal 9th November 2000 16:11

Beagler

I have been perilously close to taking a Grob into Stansted before now and I can tell you that the prospect of paying that sort of landing fee was not a happy one! Mercifully we made it back into North Weald & then proceeded to spend the equivalent of the landing fee we thought we'd just saved out celebrating.

Beagler 10th November 2000 02:00

Yeah, but this isn't any old Grob!
Cruising at 50 000 ft and straight in at 42 miles!
The landing fee would be minimal in the scale of the fun!

"Stansted, Grob overhead Old Buck Flight Level 500 requesting straight in approach"

(Smug reply) "Grob copy your transmission and understand you are at FL 50" (yawn, don't you PPLs understand flght levels?)

"negative Stansted, Fifty thousand feet and heading in, right down the slot!"

50 000 in 42 miles would blow their Boeing / Airbus minds... well worth a couple of million of disposable income!

I would expect applause when I arrive in my NASA pressure suit!

Dreams are made of this.



100LL 12th November 2000 04:06

I think i would buy a Nice 421C nice car nice house and piss the rest up the wall

Live Fast
Die young

Snoop 13th November 2000 20:19

King Air, if I won Big. Beech Duke if I one not so big. Aztec Turbo if I one under a mil, but over £200,000. Any less and I'd by a little Issacs Fury for fun :)

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Snoop

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stiknruda 13th November 2000 20:41

It would be the WACO - saw one last year at Oshkosh.

Then a model 12 Pitts for fun

and new Baron

and a Maserati

and....

more chance of growing a second head than winning the lottery!


sNr

Beagler 14th November 2000 00:02

Zaphod managed it!

See you in St Tropez

Perhaps I should buy a ticket first, I am probably the only member of the population to never have brought a lottery ticket!

JamesG 15th November 2000 21:09

Pilatus Turbo Porter looks like fun. PT6 power and outrageous filed performance. Lso, it features what Alan Bramson described (I I recall correctly) "modified gothic" side windows.. that's the clincher for me.


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