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I have just received an email from our insurers clearly stating the CRI is regarded as a qualified instructor by the underwriters. |
Originally Posted by flybymike
(Post 5253467)
I cant help wondering whether the underwriters actually realise the difference between a CRI and an FI...
"...yes, the CRI fits the QFI definition and is fine providing undertaking advanced tuition or continuation training of named permitted pilots specified on your schedule of insurance." |
"Advanced" tuition? :hmm:
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Complex, turbo, high performance endorsements etc.....that is advanced tuition.
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Hi
I dont want to do a instructors course but am interested in becoming a CRI. Does anyone know where in the South East a CRI course is offered ..... I have a Frozen ATPL with MEP, SEP and IR ratings. |
I have been in contact with the following FTO's about CRI courses:
Wycomble Air Centre West London Aero Club On Track Aviation Andrewsfield Aviation Most were very professional in manner and detail of response, with one exception which still has not got back to me (true to previous form I might add!). If you PM me I can provide more info. Prices vary around £1250. Landing fees and test a/c hire and examiner charges are not typically included. Be careful to ascertain if you need to pay "all up front" especially in current economic climate. |
wycombe was recommended to me...I'm probably going to do it in the new year.
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Underwriters
Hi englishal,
I don't know whether XX's underwriters are also your underwriters, if so then that's a good start. If not, then the statement from XX's underwriters is of no value TO YOU. I still feel that you need to have a nice letter on headed notepaper on YOUR file from YOUR insurer confirming the matter in question. Then, and only then, will you be safe in assuming a CRI will be adequate for the purpose in question. Broomstick. |
Thanks, I will check anyway and get it in writing, though it is nice to know what other insurance companies think.
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Good news!...
The clause you refer to is to provide automatic cover under the policy should a “Qualified Flying Instructor, Assistant Flying Instructor and any Airworthiness approved pilot” fly the aircraft for the purposes of check flights and continuation training to any members of the group and for a suitably qualified pilot to fly the aircraft after the annual has been concluded. The CAA certified Class Rating Instructor is a permitted pilot for the uses described above. |
The detail is in the small print:
fly the aircraft for the purposes of check flights and continuation training to any members of the group and for a suitably qualified pilot to fly the aircraft after the annual has been concluded This does not mean that if you lend your pride and joy to your instructor so that he can teach a non-group member that he is covered. Similarly if you ask your friendly "instructor" to fly the aircraft whilst you snap pix of your house - he is not covered |
gotta love the JAA/JAR...
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The thing is that there is a big difference, in terms of potential instructor experience as perceived by the insurer, between a plane being insured for the owner getting "instruction" in it (which is AFAIK virtually universal), and it being insured for being flown by any "instructor" (implicitly as PIC/solo).
That's why I would check with the insurer. |
Originally Posted by XX621
(Post 5254056)
I have been in contact with the following FTO's about CRI courses:
Wycomble Air Centre West London Aero Club On Track Aviation Andrewsfield Aviation Most were very professional in manner and detail of response, with one exception which still has not got back to me (true to previous form I might add!). If you PM me I can provide more info. Prices vary around £1250. Landing fees and test a/c hire and examiner charges are not typically included. Be careful to ascertain if you need to pay "all up front" especially in current economic climate. G |
[topic drift]
What is the exact definition of "any Airworthiness approved pilot"? |
CRI
Out of interest, I have just completed a CRI course at a large commercial training organisation on the south coast.
I was fortunate to complete my course with another trainee (he was doing his full FI rating) which added some interesting additional elements, like assisting with mutual flying training etc. This greatly exceeded the number of flying hours before my flight test, even though I could not log any of it. While it’s no were near as tough as for the full FI, it certainly is more challenging and deeper than I expected. A good CFI passionate about teaching ‘Instructional’ techniques is essential and the one I trained with was superb. If you want any more details, please feel free to PM me. |
Could I do the CRI in my own aeroplane (Complex, turbo, high performance)?
Ta |
Approved Aeroplanes
Hi englishal,
I think it has to be a "CAA Approved" aeroplane. Probably on the books of the training organisation. My Rans was never going to be usable for the task, but my fellow CRI candidate's Mooney was nearer the mark. In the end we both used the Approved 140 Cherokee. Safe Flying, Richard W. |
Ok, thanks for that....:ok:
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