Thursdays would be the normal rate and Mondays are half price according to the website...

Another interesting caveat, this year at least, was that the landing had to be paid in advance. Fair enough, but 'what if we can't come due to weather' i asked. 'You'll get a 50% refund' was the answer. I queried this but was told that was standard and they wouldn't budge.
So we have people overloading their 4 seat single due to the extortionate landing fee ( and I saw at least one small 4 seater off loading 4 large blokes), and then perhaps tempted to push on through poor weather as they will be 'fined' £100 for making a sound weather decision. :ugh:

They are overloading because they are irresponsible. Nobody is forcing them to overload, and if they do they are negligent. Likewise if they don't make sound weather decisons. Goodwood cannot be held responsible to other peoples decisions.
Goodwood set their price, its their airfield and are reacting to demand in a free market economy. I bet people still used Goodwood and will continue to use it.
:ugh::ouch:

Question

1. If everyone paid what they felt was a "fair price" to get into the event would Lord M get more money or less?

2. If he got less would the event be as big and as interesting?

3. If the event was not as big or interesting would the "fair price" go up or down in the punter's view?

Return to question one and continue until you have completed your impression of the Oozlum Bird.

Landing Fee Farce
 

I cant understand the landing fee pricing at the GFoS, i fly a PA-30 and they want £440 pounds... Obviously being a twin i understand it'll be slightly more... the thing that really angers me is the fact that larger/heavier twins, be that the Cessna 310, 401, 402, 421, senecas, seminoles and cheyennes and even the odd turboprops are cheaper by a good margin....

Can anyone shed any light on this?

If you are getting your pricing from the Gwd website, that tariff list is for the 2011 event calculated at £55 per seat (nb not per p-o-b.) and contains a number of anomalies ... such as the PA30 which seems to have stretched to 8-seats ie £440, and nothing to do with it being a twin.

I suggest a call to Goodwood Airfield Admin on 01243 755 087 to clarify the 2012 event landing fee charge for your specific aircraft based on the number of seats (again: not p-o-b!). From hearsay I believe it may be £67.50 per seat .... :\

Pricing for other a/c seems to be on the basis of £55 per seat. Perhaps they made a mistake?

cheers, £67.50 per head seems a lot more reasonable considerng the standard ticket price. i did try and call them this weekend to no avail although i shall try again tomorrow. I'd much rather fly in considering how long some of the traffic jams are.

Some deals through Flyer mag!

D.O.

As far as I can make out the prices are similar to last year. £55 per seat landing fee which doesn't include the admission ticket price which for an adult is also £55!! I went last year using the Flyer voucher (worked out at £75 each). Fabulous Day. Sunshine all day, cars, planes, motorbikes etc. No queues to enter or leave. I filled all four seats and had a wonderful day. The flyer voucher took the sting out of it by saving us £35 each! Would I recommend it if the price was £110 each and the weather was raining? That's a difficult one and possibly no.

Actually I think the offer was in Pilot magazine not Flyer. There was some discussion about this topic last year. See

http://www.pprune.org/private-flying...val-speed.html

That is a good wheeze!- charge a/craft to come in and then charge punters to look at them!
dick turpin's spirit lives on.

Market forces are one thing, usurious exploitation is another.you won't see me there....likewise BGP at Silverstone All the new stands at good vantage-points meant that the common herd missed out....cost to enjoyment ratio fell out of my range...stopped going.

I can understand what they're doing and why. I won't fly in.

I well remember my first and only visit by air which was, I think in '58 or '59, with a fellow DH apprentice who had a licence and flew from Panshangar. We went to the Whitsun race meeting in a Tiger (Moth) not Grumman!

Straight across the middle of London, a circuit of the Crystal Palace TV mast and onwards to Goodwood. No landing fee, no entrance fee, walked straight into the paddock and watched the racing from the "members" enclosure! Had our picnic and after tea flew home.

That's perhaps why they charge by the seat today!

I've never flown to Goodwood and have zero intention of ever doing so.

At these rates you can fly to Shoreham (a far better airport with a decent runway and decent facilities) and get a (massively overpriced, as usual) taxi to Goodwood :)

I can't understand why people will pay so much to land on what can only be described as a field with a cafe to one side, but people are exactly that stupid. If no one flew in there then they wouldn't be able to charge anything. Much like their "free Mondays".

I've not come across a more expensive grass field.

Had a petrolhead mate who went to the Goodwood Festival Of Greed a couple of years back (not by air it has to be said), said it was brilliant fun but horrendously expensive.

Supply and Demand never justifies anything. A shafting is a shafting regardless. I suppose asset-stripping is a great British tradition. Keeps profits up and the riff-raff out I suppose, after all we can't have them there can we. :rolleyes:

Interestingly for comparison there was a great classic car show in Inverness town centre a while back; totally free to watch and a great atmosphere. There again, run on different principles by different people. For 200-odd quid to land a PA28, without any tickets, thou canst kiss thy Glutus Maximus.

Smithy

The North West equivalent CPOP is fantastic, and last 2 years when I atended it was FREE to land, and FREE entry for all aircraft occupants to the highest ticket-price version.

A really great event, well worth the time to visit (I flew up from Redhill for the day to attend). The only problem for most of you guys will be the need to gain a Helicopter Pilot qualification because there is no strip........ but....

Here's a thought, why not suggest to the organisers that next year they dedicate a field to the arrival / departure of lass able airframes?

:ok:

Goodwood - it's not cheap. Festival of Speed - it's expensive.

So what? Surely, if you are happy to pay up and think it's worth it, you'll go. If you aren't and don't, you won't.

Why not moan about the cost of a Rolls Royce and how the "average" man cannot justify that cost? Same deal.

What's the story here? No-one is being forced, coerced or conned.

Goodwood Charges
 

Sorry to add to, what has turned out to be, bit of a 'Goodwood Bashing' thread, but I did enquire last Summer about joining the Aero Club down there, partly to support the aerodrome and partly to secure some discount on their landing fees.

The annual subscription of £150 seemed expensive but tolerable.The joining fee however is a further £100. Ouch!!

Was it Graucho Marx who said he wouldn't want to join a club that would accept someone like him as a member?

The annual subscription of £150 seemed expensive but tolerable.The joining fee however is a further £100. Ouch!!

That seems cheap. Our club is 250.00 per annum.

There is an LAA deal to fly in for the Thursday I believe.... £30 all in.

Hmm
 

I think it's the 1,800% mark up for the day that people are questioning.

Although I kind of agree, you pays your money, you makes your choice 1800% mark up is a trifle eye popping :eek:

I flew in for gfos and thought it was absolutely the 1st class way to do it. They do lay things on and it's a great day out. But, how much ?!??

I really don't understand the whinging on this thread.

If you dont think its value for money, then dont go.

All this "rip off" and "they shouldn't charge the market rate" talk is nonsense in my view. Would any of the contributors who have posted as such be prepared to work in a job that paid less than the market rate for their skills? Or would they turn down a day's overtime if offered 1800% of their regular salary for covering a special event? Doubt it.

It's not for nothing that we refer to it here as the 'Festival of Greed'.....

Aviation Exhibition
 

If owners / pilots are being stung for landing, who do they (Goodwood) expect to visit the Aviation Exhibition?? Toffs as a distraction from the main motoring event?

People who own airplanes are either very rich or they have no money left after spending it all on their expensive hobby. Yachting is no different.

I hope the exhibitors at the Aviation Exhibition think they get enough serious enquiries to make all their efforts and expense worthwhile.
Maybe next year, the exhibitors will stick to AeroExpo.

It is absolutely irrelevant what the mark up is on the Goodwood events, landing fees or anything else there, just as mark ups on nice cars, good holidays, or even a decent pair of shoes is irrelevant.

If you think it is worth it (ie. you can justify it to yourself) you will do it. if not, you won't.

I personally cannot justify £200 grand on a car, but I don't moan about the car maker charging £200 grand, I simply don't buy one (a/c no problem ;))

Please don't go around whinging about stuff you can't justify (or afford), just don't go.

Incorrect
 

Untrue.

It's my privilege to go about the place complaining about whatever takes my fancy. Whether that be other road users, town & county planners, stories I've read in "the sun" that I don't fully have the facts for or passing comment on the relationship status of celebrities, who I don't really know, based on some awful magazine left in the dentist waiting room.

If you don't like listening to me moan, then don't listen to me. I'll simply go and post it on Internet forums instead.

Oh wait.....

54p for a bag of crisps is still an outrage - I remember when they were 7p and only came in 3 flavours?!?!

Quite possibly that is why Goodwood is always a fun event!

A suggestion
 

I do understand why you feel ripped-off; you want to drop your daughter at Goodwood and they want to charge you £200 for... that. So, I have a suggestion:

http://www.assystbullmer.co.uk/images/parachutes.jpg

Did many fly in this year?

Have been for the last few years but like a few people have had enough of the fees. £55 a head I could live with but not per seat. There was only two of us this year, in a large aircraft which would have been extortionate. Coupled with their ridiculous pay in advance policy and tough luck if the weathers bad attitude, I've had enough!

These bankers, are they into aviation as well? What does Bob Diamond fly?

I always wanted to go, but like others, I reckon the cost far outways the possible benefit, of flying in. I also enquired about staying at the hotel, and that would have added another huge amount.

One could have spent 6 months on a Greek island, for the amount of a day or two at Goodwood. Ah those were the days:cool:

Don't start me off..! I remember when mars bars were 3d (1.5p), 'black jacks' were 8 a penny and wagon wheels/curly wurlys were twice the size, etc. etc... :*

Anyhoo, I went in on Thursday for £30 all in. £50/seat whether occupied or not is the ridiculous bit and wholly unfair; individuals should be charged as individuals. I can't see any credible logic in charging for empty seats.

Aircraft were noticeably thinner on the ground this year than in previous years. Presumably the recession means fewer peeps than ever are able to fly, but I wonder how much more revenue Goodwood would have made if it hadn't imposed this policy :hmm:

Chris Evans can still afford to go, he mentions it in his Mail on Sunday magazine column, to my mind a weekly masterclass in the art of bragging!

I flew into Goodwood airfield only once back in the mid 90's when i was out to get experience. I thought it was rubbish. (I think there was some event on then too)

just avoid festival of posers go to vscc meeting cost about 15 quid no crowds just the right crowd

Well I was put off by the cost - I may have flown had it been cheaper, instead I did what most people do and endured the long queues to get in by road...

Of course it is their right to charge whatever they like but on reflection I think Goodwood might realise this time that it was a bit too much and that they actually ended up discouraging a lot of pilots who would otherwise have happily paid a smaller fee.

My understanding is that even with the fees that they charge Goodwood fills all of the available slots therefore they cannot be too far wrong in their pricing.

Goodwood Rip off
 

I used to fly into the Revival every year and thoroughly enjoyed the event.
I have a Saratoga, which of course has 6 seats. I was horrified to be told a few years ago that the landing fee was £50.00 per seat, not per passenger as before, making it a total of £300.00
When I queried this, I was told that this was due to people booking a landing slot for two P.O.B and turning up with 4 or more.
This was their way of policing the numbers!!
When I explained that there were already checks in place. Once when you are collected from your aircraft by minibus/car and secondly at the entrance to the event from the airfield, where your tickets are checked. I was told that this was the explanation of the increase in charges that were told to say!!!
The chap was embarrassed, but agreed eventually that it was to increase revenue.
Needless to say, I have not been back since.
While I am sure I and others are not missed, I wonder, what the actual statistics re attending aircraft numbers before and after the new charges stack up and what the actual revenue from the landing fees compares..

It's a shame for myself and others have decided that this is a charge too far in these days of increasing costs, leaving this event to the very well heeled.

I understand what you mean, but I would venture that those who are fortunate to own and operate an aeroplane, particularly a Saratoga, would, in relative terms, be classed as well heeled. I would hope that in owning and operating an aeroplane, comes some intelligence, and some savvy about life.:sad:

We therefore can look objectively at a proposal and decide, if it seems fair, or not. In this instance the charge of 50 quid a seat, does not, in my view, seem reasonable value. It is not after-all, that the spending stops after the landing charge. I would be travelling to the event from Scotland, a lot of fuel, an overnight stay, and a 200 quid fee, all to begin with:eek:

Having not been to the event, but would like to, there would be no way that I would just try it, not at these levels of cost. I might not enjoy the event. I would have considered making the event free to anyone flying in, perhaps linked to a meal or hotel stay. There are lots of methods to smooth the cost.

It is obviously their jurisdiction to charge what they feel is appropriate. If they get a great turnout, superb, more money for them. If someone looks at the numbers, and revenue is down, then they have damaged themselves, and longer term that just might become an issue.

I know for a fact this is not true. They like to imply this so that everyone's books (and pays the non refundable fee) in advance rather than people waiting closer to the time when they may cancel due weather, not rounding up mates etc etc.

Couldn't one fly the Saratoga to Shoreham and rent a car at that airport ?

I would tend to agree that a £ 300 landing fee is a rip off, in the sense that it offers very little value for money. I also believe that a landing fee "per seat" is ridiculous and potentially dangerous.

He gets flown around in a Lear, but he personally flies an A340 on occasion. Insufficient runway at Goodwood I would say .