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the bald eagle 27th May 2008 22:01

Plane Crash At Southend
 
Has anyone heard of a crash yesterday (Monday) at or near Southend?

I understand that 2 people were quite badly hurt but can't find anything on it?

Thanks
TBE

Papa Charlie 27th May 2008 22:07

This one? On route from Southend to Shoreham.

Hope they are OK.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7420968.stm

JBGA 27th May 2008 22:20

Looks like it's the Extra 300 that is part of the Swift glider display team. BBC says non-life threatening which is a relief.

London Flyer 27th May 2008 22:37

I'm relieved that I've not read of any more (serious) accidents yesterday.

I flew back from Caen in the late afternoon intending to go to Biggin Hill, but the ATIS there gave OVC at 001 by the time we were coasting in. We diverted to Lydd which was not much better (5000, BKN 006, mist) and got down safely.

I presume there had been quite a few diversions that afternoon as people tried to get home after a bank holiday weekend flying. The very helpful Lydd controller said they wished people would consider them as an airfield to visit in fair weather - and not just as a diversion airfield when everything else is below minima.

Mike Cross 28th May 2008 06:19

Let's see, lovely sandy beach, good restaurants, Lydd or L2K? Difficult choice really.;)

will5023 28th May 2008 07:45

The extra involved was the one based at SHM, pilot and girfriend are ok but have injuries, it had been at southend displaying(aeros) and was trying to get back home in the fickle weather.

Will.

IO540 28th May 2008 08:14


I presume there had been quite a few diversions that afternoon as people tried to get home after a bank holiday weekend flying
It's obvious that many pilots flew without even checking the weather.

S-Works 28th May 2008 09:00


It's obvious that many pilots flew without even checking the weather
.

And just as obvious that many checked the weather and still decided to give it a go.... :ugh:

The forecasts were very clear that the weather was going to be shocking, yet people still chanced their hands 'VFR'.

I flew back in from Berlin and ended up on a minima approach ready to divert a hundred miles away.

I am surprised there were not more accidents.

Mike Cross 28th May 2008 10:14

There's no suggestion that I've heard that the Extra incident was at all weather related. It happened in the afternoon, after the weather had cleared. Eye-witness reported the engine popping and banging before cutting out.

I watched it perform at Goodwood the day before
http://mrc0001.users.btopenworld.com...ages/giiex.jpg

IO540 28th May 2008 11:07

Yes this is the wrong thread for this but


The forecasts were very clear that the weather was going to be shocking, yet people still chanced their hands 'VFR'.
I reckon that there was a strong "fly in event" mentality at Tempelhof where nobody wanted to be seen to be a wimp.

will5023 28th May 2008 11:13

Think you will find gents that this one was weather related, an engine will pop and crackle if you have to shut the throttle in a hurry !! Anyhow hope the pilot and passenger have a quick recovery from there injuries.

Will.

S-Works 28th May 2008 11:58


I reckon that there was a strong "fly in event" mentality at Tempelhof where nobody wanted to be seen to be a wimp.
Er actually the weather was CAVOK at templehoff, mid 20's temp and not a cloud in the sky. Those that were not all weather capable chose to stay extra time and some are still not back.

Those of us with IR's, CFIKI etc. chose to come back within the privileges of our licenses and the basis of our currency.

Fuji Abound 28th May 2008 13:13

Mike

You and me both must have missed something. So far as I am concerned (albeit I was not flying) the weather was very definitely VFR by the afternoon.

Whilst I personally support after the event discussions I think comments about an accident being weather related are a bit wide of the mark unless you have reliable information or an aftercast (I might add I have neither, just my view from the garden).

Moreover I dont see how it is possible to jump to the conclusion when an aircraft lands in a field obviously under reasonable control and probably following engine problems that the accident was weather related particularly as the aircraft was flying north to south (and west) towards the better weather after the front had cleared the coast by some hours I suspect.

Moreover the aircraft almost certainly did not have a AI (it never use to anyway) so I suspect the pilot would have avoided entering IMC.

Mike Cross 28th May 2008 13:46

FA

Those were my thoughts as well, however I've since heard independently some information that suggests will5023 may not be wide of the mark. I suggest we all desist from speculation as to cause unless we are able to come up with more definitive information.

Best wishes for a speedy recovery to pilot and passenger.

Fuji Abound 28th May 2008 14:35

Mike - yes agreed, it might have been weather related and if Will is relying on sound information then his comment is entirely reasonable imho.

As I said my comment was based entirely on the weather 20 miles away not necessarily the same as we all well know.

stiknruda 28th May 2008 18:01

Can someone pm me the initials of the pilot pse?

Mike Cross 28th May 2008 19:47

Don't know the answer to that Stik, but I gather he's out of hospital and up and about so if you're worried about someone you know give him a ring.

will5023 28th May 2008 19:50

Hi Guys, not in the habit of rumour mongering, but an AIB inquiry is in process and the facts will come out, just know the horses mouth. Can't call the kettle black as have scud run myself and got away with it, many moon's ago, just a little wiser and older, but young enough not to be grey..yet.

Will.

stiknruda 28th May 2008 20:29

Thanks for all the PM's.

As feared, it is my chum. Have left voice-mail for him.

Stik

007helicopter 30th May 2008 16:53

Any more news on how they are?


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